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[WoW] -adin is a suffix for all occasions. [Paladins]
SabreMau
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Healadins, Tankadins, Retadins. The three flavors of paladins, all of them on course for good things (we hope) in WotLK.
Paladins are WoW's Cool Fun Class. You can roll several of them and they can each do their own task and do it well (or well-ish enough). But what can't they be?
Gnomes.
Ah well.
Forum Hangouts for Certain Specs:
Retribution: Cromfel's Paladin Sanctuary
Protection: Maintankadin
Holy: Is there one?
Talent Specs:
WotLK is in beta, making things wobbly, a good expansion spec one day may be tossed out a window the next. Let's watch. In the meantime, here are the suggested TBC-era specs from the last thread:
PvE-Holy, PvE-Prot, PvE-Ret.
PvP-Holy, PvP-Ret.
Paladins are WoW's Cool Fun Class. You can roll several of them and they can each do their own task and do it well (or well-ish enough). But what can't they be?
Gnomes.
Ah well.
Forum Hangouts for Certain Specs:
Retribution: Cromfel's Paladin Sanctuary
Protection: Maintankadin
Holy: Is there one?
Talent Specs:
WotLK is in beta, making things wobbly, a good expansion spec one day may be tossed out a window the next. Let's watch. In the meantime, here are the suggested TBC-era specs from the last thread:
PvE-Holy, PvE-Prot, PvE-Ret.
PvP-Holy, PvP-Ret.
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edit: Oops, I'm thinking LK, your on Live stuff. But I still think this will be fun when LK comes out.
I have to wonder if that Judgement of Command change at the top is actually meaning the Seal of Command under Talents. Seal of Command did 70% weapon damage. Judgement, I dunno if they changed it to the same percentage or not in WotLK, but it wasn't that 70% before.
They did revert the nerfs to Fanaticism and 2H specialization, at least. And there's the interrupt effect on HoJ.
WE ARE THE RetARDS!
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Wait.
Pretty pissed Shield of Right doesn't scale now.
It...it does. Just not as insanely well as it did before.
Just read that as "100% of your block value +300" as opposed to "275% of your block value"
When your in tier 10 or whatever, that 300 will be insignificant.
They could of just dragged it down to something like 150%. Would of made more sense to me.
Pretty much.
If your Human, Jin'Rokh is hands down better. Any other race is sorta debatable though. More or less equal I would say.
If your not human, and you have the Harbinger, I wouldn't run ZA into the dirt trying to get Jin.
If you're an Elf I think Blade might win out over Torch but it looks roughly equal, this is just guesswork though.
edit: Beat'd, and Sabre's the pro.
Ya, I saw that before. I would like to see what they do though. I would of assumed they'd change them at the same time. Cause without that buff to it its kinda stinking right now.
If you already have a Torch, I'm pretty sure it's not much of an upgrade.
Bubble all the time. Especially when your about to beat a boss.
No, it just went back to before. I think it kinda evened out with the SoCommand nerf.
tick tock tick tock tick tock
First Blood 85 Priest 80 Mage 85 Paladin 83 Druid 80 DK 85 Huntard 85 Shaman
"Tardo Wan" sounds like a Jedi that required 436 years to train and then killed himself by looking into his lightsaber while turning it on."
I think it will get moved deeper, but I don't really expect the mana return to get changed too badly, if at all.
Depending on how deep it goes, Paladins may still chase it. I personally wouldn't, but there's Paladins out there crazy enough to make Instant FoLs and HoTs from the Ret tree work with the points they could still get into Holy.
First Blood 85 Priest 80 Mage 85 Paladin 83 Druid 80 DK 85 Huntard 85 Shaman
"Tardo Wan" sounds like a Jedi that required 436 years to train and then killed himself by looking into his lightsaber while turning it on."
Well, and it's the same replenishment buff that hunters get right? I guess pallies just have less int than hunters and possibly less mana usage when dpsing, so that the personal mana returns look huge?
Replenishment is the same across all classes, JotW also gives you 20% of your own total mana back upon judging.
I don't know how much that makes this talent way too good, or hunting party too shitty.
For Holy, Blizzard is wary of it. 20% of a holy mana pool every 8 seconds is a whole lot more mp5 than 20% of a ret mana pool, and half-Holy-half-Ret is a favored beta healing spec. They specifically said they didn't intend that, and are planning on making deep Holy more desirable.
So we'll get 20% of our mana back when we judge.
And we'll lose 20% just from a CS and a DS.
And we lose 5% from judging too.
So it's OP at 70, fine at 80
Yes, to give you an idea though Seal of Command used to do 100% weapon damage.
Right, and if you did have some int on your gear, and say 30 or 40% reduced costs on your abilities(or whatever it would take), the talent could instead just be replenishment, which is already a great buff, and it wouldn't be an out of whack talent.
Re-itemizing gear, maybe that's too much effort, I don't know. But tweaking ability costs seems like a worthwhile change.
And why shouldn't they when enhancement shamans and hunters have to get int? It meshes with Death Knight and Warrior armor, but it's almost like a free pass on having to acquire a dps-null stat.
And I did have a second point you know, abilities, and the mana costs of said abilities.
It would be kind of ridiculous if the base damage of feral dps abilities was 70% of what they are now, and there was some talent that gave ferals a 30% boost to all damage. Talents that are absolutely positively mandatory aren't a good idea.
It's simple because we share itemization with DKs and Warriors, and neither will use INT. Hunters of all specs will use their mana pool. Shamans too. If you saw our itemization in BC, you'd see that, prior to their philosophy change, we were in the same boat.
It's just because we were 'lucky' enough to share itemization with Warriors for so long and now, finally, get some benefit from it