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First 100 Days: Day 9 - Of Cocktails and Cocksuckers
And so it begins. What will be the first items accomplished? How good will they be or how much will they suck? Will bipartisanship actually occur or will logjams get broken by sheer force of will? When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to? What's going to happen in the Middle East? How many times will the talking heads talk about the historic nature of the first black President signing a bill into law, and the first black President vetoing a bill, and the first black President using a pocket veto, and the first black President having a ceremony on the south lawn, and the first black President to host a state dinner, and the first black President to raid the white house ice cream stash....
Let's do this thing.
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I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
He's said he's not for either throughout the campaign and transition, but then he also said the whole purpose of change.gov is to provide a platform for public initiatives.
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edited January 2009
You know, if the US manages to decriminalize marijuana before we up here in Canada do I will just shake my head. Stupid Harper.
I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
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I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.
I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.
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You know, if the US manages to decriminalize marijuana before we up here in Canada do I will just shake my head. Stupid Harper.
Isn't cannabis decriminalized in Canada already? I thought it was just a matter of legalization now. Or maybe I'm delving too deeply into semantics.
It's technically illegal. Small amounts are thought to be unenforceable though if prosecuted, in pratice.
In 2003 an Ontario court ruled simple possession laws banning cannabis unconstitutional,and in 2007 a Toronto judge ruled that Canada's pot possession laws are unconstitutional and that the country's medicinal marijuana regulations are flawed.
So it's just a matter of us going "We're officially making this not illegal anymore."
I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.
I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.
It's that popular an issue on the internet, that's the important part.
I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Obama's stance on this. I can't imagine it is too high up on the priority list, though freeing up prison cells would be nice.
On another note, I completely forgot about this first 100 days deal. This is where the impression is made.
I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Obama's stance on this. I can't imagine it is too high up on the priority list, though freeing up prison cells would be nice.
On another note, I completely forgot about this first 100 days deal. This is where the impression is made.
Hell, the networks' bobbleheads are already talking about the first 100 hours. 100 days? Please. They want an extended 24, minute by minute coverage.
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In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.
I'd like to think some of the people who work in Corrections care about it, given what its doing to the prison system. That's not to say they do care about it, or want it legalized, just that I'd like to think they do.
if you take all the money spent on anti-pot ads and rehab and incareration and instead turned it into a tax revenue generating commodity i think it would make a significant difference
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if you take all the money spent on anti-pot ads and rehab and incareration and instead turned it into a tax revenue generating commodity i think it would make a significant difference
There was an article on this I just read. I should find it.
Suffice it to say, they figure putting a tax on marijauna would bring in 11-30$ billion per year, enough to pay for the entire bailout plan of Obama's 10-year plan.
In all honesty, only 20 year old kids and 50 year old deadheads care about legalizing marijuana. There are bigger fish to fry.
I'd like to think some of the people who work in Corrections care about it, given what its doing to the prison system. That's not to say they do care about it, or want it legalized, just that I'd like to think they do.
Unless I'm mistaken, you don't go to big boy jail with marijuana unless you have a ton of it or were selling it. Most of the times the above referenced 20 year old kids and 50 year old dead heads have $20.00 worth of pot which MIGHT get them a day, but more likely a fine.
On Obama though - I really doubt legalizing marijuana is high on the to do list. He has this whole war thing to worry about
Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.
It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.
Other than the getting political support part.
Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
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Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.
It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.
Other than the getting political support part.
Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
The political capital burnt in legalizing marijuana simply wouldn't be worth it when you look at the other stuff that needs done right now. It's a very high-risk, low reward proposition. I mean, can you imagine the first black president leading the charge to legalize pot? Talk about a Fox News field day.
Clearly legalizing pot is the largest issue facing this country right now.
It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.
Other than the getting political support part.
Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
The political capital burnt in legalizing marijuana simply wouldn't be worth it when you look at the other stuff that needs done right now. It's a very high-risk, low reward proposition. I mean, can you imagine the first black president leading the charge to legalize pot? Talk about a Fox News field day.
The bill will be filed as H.B. 420.
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edited January 2009
When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?
When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?
1) Immediately
2) First person he sees
That is all.
I don't know if poor Harry's brain can handle the tensions involved in capitulating to everyone. I expect the next couple of weeks to hold either a complete emotional breakdown or the emergence of another of his personalities that actually has a spine (and will probably spend more time standing up to Obama than Republicans).
I'm not TOO concerned about this, but I am curious to see how Obama deals with the #1 proposal on change.gov—decriminalization/legalization of marijuana.
I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.
I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.
It's that popular an issue on the internet, that's the important part.
This. All the Change.gov thing says is that it's a popular issue among democrats on the internet. Which is like a more liberal part of the internet, an already young and liberal "place", demographically speaking.
He isn't going to touch it with a ten foot pole in his first term, and probably not in his second, either. If he does, there's a very good chance Congress won't play ball.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for decriminalization. But let's be realistic here.
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When will Harry Reid buckle under and capitulate? And who will he capitulate to?
1) Immediately
2) First person he sees
That is all.
I don't know if poor Harry's brain can handle the tensions involved in capitulating to everyone. I expect the next couple of weeks to hold either a complete emotional breakdown or the emergence of another of his personalities that actually has a spine (and will probably spend more time standing up to Obama than Republicans).
Harry Reid is probably capitulating to somebody right now, as I type out these words.
Dear lord, I can only imagine what kind of capitulating the guy does in the bedroom.
I'd imagine his first term would look something this:
Revitalizing the Economy
Ending the War in Iraq
Providing Health Care for All
Point B, at least. The economy will have to revitalize itself, and universal health care isn't going to happen during his first term, not with the aforementioned economic crisis going on.
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I'd imagine his first term would look something this:
Revitalizing the Economy
Ending the War in Iraq
Providing Health Care for All
Point B, at least. The economy will have to revitalize itself, and universal health care isn't going to happen during his first term, not with the aforementioned economic crisis going on.
If he's smart he'll take a stepwise approach to healthcare, starting with expanded funding and eligibility for Medicaid and VA.
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He's said he's not for either throughout the campaign and transition, but then he also said the whole purpose of change.gov is to provide a platform for public initiatives.
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I doubt that he will address it at all until his second term, unless somebody in Congress takes up that torch first, which I also doubt.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
If it's truly that popular an issue, I'm sure someone will run with it eventually, though I guess it's equally plausible that you'll just see more lip service being paid to it.
I don't even smoke marijuana, and I'd be surprised if the US legalized/decriminalized it before Canada did. Of course, it'd probably make doing so in Canada a cake walk, so a win for those who care either way.
Isn't cannabis decriminalized in Canada already? I thought it was just a matter of legalization now. Or maybe I'm delving too deeply into semantics.
It's technically illegal. Small amounts are thought to be unenforceable though if prosecuted, in pratice.
So it's just a matter of us going "We're officially making this not illegal anymore."
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It's that popular an issue on the internet, that's the important part.
edit: and I could use the correct tags maybe
I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about Obama's stance on this. I can't imagine it is too high up on the priority list, though freeing up prison cells would be nice.
On another note, I completely forgot about this first 100 days deal. This is where the impression is made.
Hell, the networks' bobbleheads are already talking about the first 100 hours. 100 days? Please. They want an extended 24, minute by minute coverage.
Overgeneralizations, whee. :rotate:
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I'd like to think some of the people who work in Corrections care about it, given what its doing to the prison system. That's not to say they do care about it, or want it legalized, just that I'd like to think they do.
There was an article on this I just read. I should find it.
Suffice it to say, they figure putting a tax on marijauna would bring in 11-30$ billion per year, enough to pay for the entire bailout plan of Obama's 10-year plan.
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Unless I'm mistaken, you don't go to big boy jail with marijuana unless you have a ton of it or were selling it. Most of the times the above referenced 20 year old kids and 50 year old dead heads have $20.00 worth of pot which MIGHT get them a day, but more likely a fine.
On Obama though - I really doubt legalizing marijuana is high on the to do list. He has this whole war thing to worry about
Anyway, I'm kind of sorry I brought it up now because I don't want this to be a pot thread.
FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT WITH A SIGNATURE!
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It'd certainly be a lot easier than fixing the economy or Iraq.
Other than the getting political support part.
In other news, we've got 4 years to prove we can save the world and another 4 after that to finish doing so. Let's do this.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Yeah, while legalizing pot is an issue I agree should be adressed by our government, when the dude says "no, no I will not", and all signs point to him not doing that, and it would be political suicide to do that, and there are dozens of other potentially disasterous things going on already that should be dealt with, it really shouldn't be issue number one in any discussion.
No no no - it's not that he has a signature. It's that it's so articulate.
Which would be a complete waste of time/resources given the other two stated issues.
Unless you were being facetious to my facetious remark, in which case touche.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The bill will be filed as H.B. 420.
1) Immediately
2) First person he sees
That is all.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I just wish everyone in congress would magically realize I'm right on this issue and end the war on drugs so we can move on. We could do it in a day!
But if wishes were horses and beggers can't be choosers, then hobos would ride.
A black man has taken the oath of office
the loss is valued at US$1million
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But seriously. I missed it. Are there any good newsfeeds up?
This. All the Change.gov thing says is that it's a popular issue among democrats on the internet. Which is like a more liberal part of the internet, an already young and liberal "place", demographically speaking.
He isn't going to touch it with a ten foot pole in his first term, and probably not in his second, either. If he does, there's a very good chance Congress won't play ball.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for decriminalization. But let's be realistic here.
Revitalizing the Economy
Ending the War in Iraq
Providing Health Care for All
Dear lord, I can only imagine what kind of capitulating the guy does in the bedroom.
Point B, at least. The economy will have to revitalize itself, and universal health care isn't going to happen during his first term, not with the aforementioned economic crisis going on.
If he's smart he'll take a stepwise approach to healthcare, starting with expanded funding and eligibility for Medicaid and VA.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.