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DoW2 Beta: Eldar claims to have been raped by patch, gripping details inside.

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    TK-42-1TK-42-1 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    hahah bitches dont know bout mah spaceelves

    40k is basically just whf in space and most shit has a counterpart except for lizardmen

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Skaven are not very well represented in 40K either


    But at least they have ogres <3

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    GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    TK-42-1 wrote: »
    hahah bitches dont know bout mah spaceelves

    40k is basically just whf in space and most shit has a counterpart except for lizardmen
    Noooooooot really. Not really at all, actually.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So, whenever I play 3v3s my game freezes like 1-2 minutes into the game. Anyone have any idea why? I can handle 1v1s just fine, but 3v3s cause freezes, and I can't do anything to fix it except restart my computer.

    It might be similar to my problem....do you mean the game completely freezes, or do you mean you lag straight to hell to, the countdowns for all the other players appear, and it asks you to kickvote people just so you can play.

    For the first kind, they just put up a a post on the beta forums yesterday saying to start the game, alt tab, go into task manager and set the proccessor affinity to a single core.

    The other way with the network lag, still no fix that I can find.

    I'm so glad I just googled this post up. I had the exact same problem. I thought my computer was melting.

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    DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Warhammer fantasy is about some human kingdom with a bunch of wizards where only the fire ones do anything and a few elves, dwarves and a bunch of crazy vikings. Warhammer 40k is about a galaxy spanning eternal war that has bioengineered super soldiers, an entire race hellbent on committing ritual suicide and billions upon billions of men and women dying to stave off an inevitable end to their entire race once their god-emperor dies.

    Yeah, 40k is good shit.

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    PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Warhammer fantasy is about some human kingdom with a bunch of wizards where only the fire ones do anything and a few elves, dwarves and a bunch of crazy vikings. Warhammer 40k is about a galaxy spanning eternal war that has bioengineered super soldiers, an entire race hellbent on committing ritual suicide and billions upon billions of men and women dying to stave off an inevitable end to their entire race once their god-emperor dies.

    Yeah, 40k is good shit.

    WH40k is overwrought and annoyingly grimdark where every detail of the setting is designed make the player go "Hey, that's dark!"

    Warhammer Fantasy is a much more interesting setting.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    if you like magic and swords - Fantasy is for you!


    If you like space magic and chainswords - 40K is for you!

    I for one love them both <3

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    kaleeditykaleedity Sometimes science is more art than science Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    my setting could beat up your setting

    also I hope the patch makes using a warboss more fun. I wonder what the change to the boss pole in the patch notes actually means -- reducing suppression resistance from .25 to .5 is pretty hard to read. At least the warboss' melee won't kill your own sluggas with his melee-special.

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    GalagaGalaxianGalagaGalaxian Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Remember, 40k started as a humorous satire of these elements.

    Then somewhere along the line, it got serious. :?

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    KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Fantasy is about EVERYONE FIGHTS EVERYONE FOREVERRRRRR!!!

    40K is about EVERYONE FIGHTS EVERYONE FOREVERRRRRRR!!!!

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    40K needs a space variant of lizardmen

    we simply need dinosaurs in space as well

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Klyka wrote: »
    Fantasy is about EVERYONE FIGHTS EVERYONE FOREVERRRRRR!!!

    40K is about EVERYONE FIGHTS EVERYONE FOREVERRRRRRR IN SPAAAAAAACE !!!!

    Fixt.

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Actually in Fantasy the races hate one another much less. Humans, Wood Elves and Dwarves (for example) work together and are much more stable in their relationships than in 40k. In 40k, the Imperium hates EVERYONE and before the Horus Heresy the Emperor had almost figured out how to breach the Eldar webway gateways: so they could invade craftworlds straight through them.

    The Eldar are lucky for Chaos corrupting various chapters, because without the Horus heresy they would have been soooooooo screwed.

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    DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Warhammer fantasy is about some human kingdom with a bunch of wizards where only the fire ones do anything and a few elves, dwarves and a bunch of crazy vikings. Warhammer 40k is about a galaxy spanning eternal war that has bioengineered super soldiers, an entire race hellbent on committing ritual suicide and billions upon billions of men and women dying to stave off an inevitable end to their entire race once their god-emperor dies.

    Yeah, 40k is good shit.

    WH40k is overwrought and annoyingly grimdark where every detail of the setting is designed make the player go "Hey, that's dark!"

    Warhammer Fantasy is a much more interesting setting.

    Thats pretty much why I love 40k, there are no heroes, just various shades of very dark grey justified by each races' version of morality.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    the eldar are already screwed


    They were screwed the moment they gave birth to a screwed up chaos god by screwing too much in screwed up ways


    screewww

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    AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Just started using Orks for the first time, man are they a fun change from SMs :D

    The Tankbustas are particularly incredible. Usually I'd have a lot of trouble with dreads and whatever but their rockets are fucking amazing.

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    DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Is that really what the Emperor was doing anyway? I always assumed he wanted access to the webway so humanity could abandon its dependence on the warp and he could continue keeping the horrible truth from everyone. The Eldar aren't screwed so much as trying to survive long enough to reach critical mass of the infinity circuit so they can kill Slaanesh and redeem themselves.

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    GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.

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    king awesomeking awesome Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Airan wrote: »
    Just started using Orks for the first time, man are they a fun change from SMs :D

    The Tankbustas are particularly incredible. Usually I'd have a lot of trouble with dreads and whatever but their rockets are fucking amazing.

    Barrage is also amazingly useful, especially if you have 2 squads.

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    AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.

    Someone saw the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and thought, "it would be so much easier for him to swing that chainsaw around if it had a hilt like a sword.'

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    GalagaGalaxianGalagaGalaxian Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.

    BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING CHAINSAW BUILT INTO A FUCKING SWORD, FUCK YEAH!

    Is the main reason it came into existence. Rule of Cool ftw.

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    orks have chainsaw axes

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    40K needs a space variant of lizardmen

    we simply need dinosaurs in space as well

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    KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Is that really what the Emperor was doing anyway? I always assumed he wanted access to the webway so humanity could abandon its dependence on the warp and he could continue keeping the horrible truth from everyone. The Eldar aren't screwed so much as trying to survive long enough to reach critical mass of the infinity circuit so they can kill Slaanesh and redeem themselves.

    What...What is the horrible truth?

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    ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.

    At one point in time, there was a planet that existed in the Dark Ages that was overcome with the warp, and was overtaken by Khorne.

    Khorne, being totally fucking metal, decided what would be gorier, and more awesome, then swords that were also chainsaws? And so the chainsword was born.


    That's the way I like to imagine it. I mean, no sane, rational person would choose a chainsword over a fucking power sword, which is pretty much a lightsaber.

    Edit: The horrible truth is that the Warp is created by sentient being's who have the capacity to use Psyker type powers. And since the Old Ones made pretty much every one of the current species (Except the Tau, Necrons, and Tyranids. With the former being relative newcomers that have no warp signature, the Necrons pretty much being the antithesis of the warp, and the Tyranids being so mindless, and dedicated to a single purpose that they fuck up the warp something fierce around their fleets.) like that, including tinkering with the humans so that they'd be able to affect it too, everyone is fucked in the long-run, unless humanity can evolve to be immune to influences outside their reality.

    Also, the Warp is easily influenced by the thoughts and emotions of said sentient beings. Henceforth, unless everyone acts as pure as an angel, the Warp tends to build up negative emotions over time, that give birth to "agendas" of a sort. Which leads to creatures like Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzneetch, and Nurgle being created. It also can apparently lead to a bunch of "minor" gods being born. Though they usually fall under the dominion of the previous four, since pretty much everyone's all grim and dark, and thus feeds the Warp with more negative energies.

    The exception to that, in the current lore, is that humanity believes in the Emperor as a god. So technically, he is a god. A couple of the novels mention it too, usually indirectly. It's also how the Orks use weapons that should not even be able to hold together when they're touched. They work because they will them to work.

    Basically, Chaos is nothing more then a reflection of humanity and the Eldar's dark-sides, and as such, will always be with them until they evolve a form of psyker that is impervious to it. Of course, that means that Chaos has actually already won, since the Imperium does everything it can to stunt the evolution and growth of psykers in 40K. Though, Chaos doesn't "win" if humanity succumbs to Chaos, since it would gain much more from a constant war, where there's a stock of humans who aren't going to engage in orgies of decay, violence, sex, or just trying to plot each other to death, since after all that was said and done, there'd be no humans left to "feed" them, either causing the current chaos gods to die, or go back into their primordial thoughtless states.


    TL;DR version for those who don't want to read all that: The Warp is basically the ooze from Ghostbusters 2.

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    DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.

    BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING CHAINSAW BUILT INTO A FUCKING SWORD, FUCK YEAH!

    Is the main reason it came into existence. Rule of Cool ftw.

    Fixed.

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    You can't arm an entire army with power swords, unless your eldar and then you don't really have an army anyways, just a bunch of crying girls with lightsabers.

    For the rank and file, you need something cheaper. Hence chainswords.

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    GalagaGalaxianGalagaGalaxian Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Powerswords are expensive to produce and (in the 40th millenium) are typically priceless relics.

    Any Forgeworld worker can assemble a chainsword off the manufactorim assembly line.

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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Remember, 40k started as a humorous satire of these elements.

    Then somewhere along the line, it got serious. :?

    The seriousness is part satirical.

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    VerrVerr Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Archonex wrote: »
    Goomba wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    If you aren't a fan of chainswords, you're a horrible person

    I mean seriously... chainsaw swords
    I can not fathom how the chainsword came into existence because the very idea of it is so lacking, so without reason, so useless that I don't understand it's very being.
    snip

    Yeah, but remember, the Orkz don't use or shape the warp in any way. They use a different kinda energy.

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    übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Captain K wrote: »
    they're not really elves


    but basically they're elves yeah

    Like the Not Spanish of RE4 and the Not Africans of RE5.

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    FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Powerswords are expensive to produce and (in the 40th millenium) are typically priceless relics.

    Any Forgeworld worker can assemble a chainsword off the manufactorim assembly line.
    Really, is there anything a chainsaw can't improve?

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    PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    FreddyD wrote: »
    Powerswords are expensive to produce and (in the 40th millenium) are typically priceless relics.

    Any Forgeworld worker can assemble a chainsword off the manufactorim assembly line.
    Really, is there anything a chainsaw can't improve?

    Swords

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    VerrVerr Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
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    SladvanSladvan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    My problem with the great chainsword debate is that it regularly overshadows the greatest weapon which is the powerfirst. Honorable mention goes to chainfist.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    FreddyD wrote: »
    Powerswords are expensive to produce and (in the 40th millenium) are typically priceless relics.

    Any Forgeworld worker can assemble a chainsword off the manufactorim assembly line.
    Really, is there anything a chainsaw can't improve?

    A vagina.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    so uh

    I tried the beta just now.

    Nothing works. Like, nothing.

    I can click on units, I think I am giving them orders, and little blue waypoint flashes come up on the terrain when I right click, but nothing will move and nothing will respond to fire orders, even on the ground.

    Am I doing something wrong or is this thing just broken?

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    ArchonexArchonex No hard feelings, right? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pancake wrote: »
    FreddyD wrote: »
    Powerswords are expensive to produce and (in the 40th millenium) are typically priceless relics.

    Any Forgeworld worker can assemble a chainsword off the manufactorim assembly line.
    Really, is there anything a chainsaw can't improve?

    Swords

    I wonder if you could stick a chainsaw on a hammer somehow?

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    so uh

    I tried the beta just now.

    Nothing works. Like, nothing.

    I can click on units, I think I am giving them orders, and little blue waypoint flashes come up on the terrain when I right click, but nothing will move and nothing will respond to fire orders, even on the ground.

    Am I doing something wrong or is this thing just broken?
    It is lag, it happens a lot in the first five minutes of the game. After half the people in the game are kicked out it usually gets better.

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