I went to Del Taco a week ago and struck out. They were still handing out goddamned Santa Claus cups. I'll go again and if they've got em this time I'll get several.
I love you. I actually had one on my old account before I had to make a new one.
Cryptic could only transfer my preorder key over to the new account so I lost my shuttle.
Check your PM's.
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Just_Bri_ThanksSeething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPAregular
edited January 2010
I would also like a code, if anyone has one.
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chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
If anyone was thinking about being a hybrid then you really need to read this....
I would even say this is OP material.
I read that entire post, and it can be summed up like this: "Hybrids do not get all the advantages of their player class and ship type, therefore they suck". From playing both "pure" and hybrid-type characters to a reasonable level, I can safely say that this is bullshit.
Not only that, but he gets a few things wrong, too. In the near future we'll be able to "decommission" officers on our ship to allow them to be traded. In addition to buying/selling officers, this allows players to temporarily trade an officer to one of their buddies for advanced training. Also, "Fire on my Mark" is not a short debuff; it's a 60-second debuff with a cooldown of 60 seconds.
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ArchonexNo hard feelings, right?Registered Userregular
edited January 2010
If there's a spare Del Taco code left , i'd be glad to take it. As far as I know, the closest Del Taco is multiple states away from me.
If anyone was thinking about being a hybrid then you really need to read this....
I would even say this is OP material.
Yeah, I skimmed it earlier...
The points brought up got sorta got shot down. Hybrids are still valid, IMO. Even more so IF the rumor about rare BOs have skills in lower grade slots is true.
I'd also really appreciate a shuttlepet from Del Taco. If anyone gets a mexican craving and an extra STO cup, lemme know
I went to Del Taco a week ago and struck out. They were still handing out goddamned Santa Claus cups. I'll go again and if they've got em this time I'll get several.
I love you. I actually had one on my old account before I had to make a new one.
Cryptic could only transfer my preorder key over to the new account so I lost my shuttle.
If anyone was thinking about being a hybrid then you really need to read this....
I would even say this is OP material.
The only real downside I'm seeing here is that it'll be a little harder to get BOffs with level 3 skills that you can use because you can't train them yourself.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Id love a del taco code too if its not too much trouble! Thanks in advance
Cryptic posted a State of the Game today. I've been entertained by the user responses on the news forum regarding the post. The first page is filled with nothing but fanboys giving Cryptic some pretty hefty verbal fellatio. They're all a bunch of silly geese. Like the silliest of geese. It actually makes me a bit sick inside, knowing that I have to share a game-world with these people.
it's just that the enterprise preorder ship sucks as much as a miranda. you can use the ship whenver you watn; it's just gonna suck.
Someone mentioned that there is an advantage to using smaller ships on the official forums. Because the skill system is fucked to all hell now thanks to the absurdly low skill point cap, you can't really spec into endgame ships using the skill system without gimping ground combat too. That means that it might just be better to spec into an earlier tier of ships, and put your points into an endgame weapon type and ground combat until the system is fixed.
really? really?
miranda's 3 weapons vs end tier's 6-8 weapons?
miranda's 3 rank1 skills (3 total) vs end tier's 5 rank 1 skills, 4 rank2, 1 rank3 and 1 rank4 skills (11 total)
miranda's 3 consoles (1 each) vs end tier's 9 consoles (2x + 3y + 4z)?
(only have cruiser info) miranda's 10k hull vs end tier cruiser's (both types) 26k hull?
my guess is that max rank in every skill miranda would get destroyed by a rank 0 everything end tier ship.
If anyone was thinking about being a hybrid then you really need to read this....
I would even say this is OP material.
if there was a section in the OP for misleading materials and examples of hype nerd raging over truth, yeah this link would go great there
hybrids can work. your "role" is determined by ship type. captain type in space adds flavor. the posted overhyped himself thinking the opposite. that captain determines role and ship adds the flavor. so his post is nerd raging how a tac cap in a cruiser isn't much dps because of the lack of tac skills. even then you can still do great dps with the tac cap in a cruiser, but i don't want to go into that.
I went to Del Taco a week ago and struck out. They were still handing out goddamned Santa Claus cups. I'll go again and if they've got em this time I'll get several.
I love you. I actually had one on my old account before I had to make a new one.
Cryptic could only transfer my preorder key over to the new account so I lost my shuttle.
Check your PM's.
Thanks much!
http://www.minotek.com/os/news.php is a site you can go to to give some guy $3.50 for a code and he's basically made over $4k doing this already
there was a thread in the STO forums that involved some metal guy with $2 donation price but can't find it.
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it's just that the enterprise preorder ship sucks as much as a miranda. you can use the ship whenver you watn; it's just gonna suck.
Someone mentioned that there is an advantage to using smaller ships on the official forums. Because the skill system is fucked to all hell now thanks to the absurdly low skill point cap, you can't really spec into endgame ships using the skill system without gimping ground combat too. That means that it might just be better to spec into an earlier tier of ships, and put your points into an endgame weapon type and ground combat until the system is fixed.
really? really?
miranda's 3 weapons vs end tier's 6-8 weapons?
miranda's 3 rank1 skills (3 total) vs end tier's 5 rank 1 skills, 4 rank2, 1 rank3 and 1 rank4 skills (11 total)
miranda's 3 consoles (1 each) vs end tier's 9 consoles (2x + 3y + 4z)?
(only have cruiser info) miranda's 10k hull vs end tier cruiser's (both types) 26k hull?
my guess is that max rank in every skill miranda would get destroyed by a rank 0 everything end tier ship.
If anyone was thinking about being a hybrid then you really need to read this....
I would even say this is OP material.
if there was a section in the OP for misleading materials and examples of hype nerd raging over truth, yeah this link would go great there
hybrids can work. your "role" is determined by ship type. captain type in space adds flavor. the posted overhyped himself thinking the opposite. that captain determines role and ship adds the flavor. so his post is nerd raging how a tac cap in a cruiser isn't much dps because of the lack of tac skills. even then you can still do great dps with the tac cap in a cruiser, but i don't want to go into that.
I went to Del Taco a week ago and struck out. They were still handing out goddamned Santa Claus cups. I'll go again and if they've got em this time I'll get several.
I love you. I actually had one on my old account before I had to make a new one.
Cryptic could only transfer my preorder key over to the new account so I lost my shuttle.
Check your PM's.
Thanks much!
http://www.minotek.com/os/news.php is a site you can go to to give some guy $3.50 for a code and he's basically made over $4k doing this already
there was a thread in the STO forums that involved some metal guy with $2 donation price but can't find it.
Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering endgame tier cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse capping everything in sight while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
And for the record, a hybrid usually doesn't work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd have to sacrifice some effectiveness in endgame PVP to manage it, and depending on how the PVE community developers, they might get pissy about people not being in specific roles too.
Cryptic posted a State of the Game today. I've been entertained by the user responses on the news forum regarding the post. The first page is filled with nothing but fanboys giving Cryptic some pretty hefty verbal fellatio. They're all a bunch of silly geese. Like the silliest of geese. It actually makes me a bit sick inside, knowing that I have to share a game-world with these people.
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Available for both Klingon Generals and Starfleet Admirals, we’ll be releasing a new one of these every few weeks for the next three months.
We’ll be fine tuning as well, but don’t expect thoughtless or harsh changes to game balance. We’re more than willing to wait and make sure everything we do is measured and calculated.
Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
miranda turn rate/impulse mod: 11.4/0.20
sci r5a: 9/0.15
sci r5b: 13/0.13
eng r5both: 6/0.15
tac r5both: 15/0.20
aside from this and the lack of understanding of inertia (didn't list them) and impulse mods, i can't make a good guess on it. but base on my runabout vs miranda and t2 ships, I wouldn't get too hyped over it lest you make some giant post in a month or two about how bad craptic is that your miranda is losing in end game content
And for the record, a hybrid doesn't usually work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd really have to cram some skills in there if you wanted to be a hybrid character.
and for the record, hybrid character in terms of that thread and my reply is a type of captain in a non captain type ship. so you can build around one ship type just as easily as you can build around one ship type.
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Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
miranda turn rate/impulse mod: 11.4/0.20
sci r5a: 9/0.15
sci r5b: 13/0.13
eng r5both: 6/0.15
tac r5both: 15/0.20
aside from this and the lack of understanding of inertia (didn't list them) and impulse mods, i can't make a good guess on it. but base on my runabout vs miranda and t2 ships, I wouldn't get too hyped over it lest you make some giant post in a month or two about how bad craptic is that your miranda is losing in end game content
And for the record, a hybrid doesn't usually work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd really have to cram some skills in there if you wanted to be a hybrid character.
and for the record, hybrid character in terms of that thread and my reply is a type of captain in a non captain type ship. so you can build around one ship type just as easily as you can build around one ship type.
I'd be very surprised if lower tier ships didn't have a speed advantage when put up against a similarly equipped end tier ship.
One of the stated plans back sometime around CB to make them at least have some sort of point in the end-game was to give them more maneuverability and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptic went back on that at this stage, however.
I wish I could find that post back in early CO where a developer tried to explain to an extremely confused thread full of posters how it was easier to nerf the shit out of something and then tweak it to where they think it should be, rather then just do a small tweak in the first place to fix the issue. He didn't get much support, if I recall correctly. I'll be interested to see how this "fine tuning" goes.
I'd be very surprised if lower tier ships didn't have a speed advantage when put up against a similarly equipped end tier ship.
I wouldn't get too hyped up for that.
One of the stated plans back sometime around CB to make them at least have some sort of point in the end-game was to give them more maneuverability and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptic went back on that at this stage, however.
One of the stated plans back sometime around CB to make them around 20% that of end tier ships was to at least make tier 4 ships 80% that of tier 5 ships. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptic stayed on course with that at this stage, however.
Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering endgame tier cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse capping everything in sight while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
And for the record, a hybrid usually doesn't work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd have to sacrifice some effectiveness in endgame PVP to manage it, and depending on how the PVE community developers, they might get pissy about people not being in specific roles too.
Speed doesn't seem to really matter much. Unlike EVE, transversal velocity does not really do a whole lot with regard to mitigating incoming damage (apparently it does a little, but a negligible amount), and even if it did, you'd be tagged with a tractor beam and be made dead more or less instantly. Any escort will outmaneuver and eat you for lunch regardless.
And right now, as far as the skill cap goes, yeah, it's pretty ridiculously stringent. But until Cryptic opens the last five ranks of Admiral and puts in the 41-50 content, I'll probably reserve judgement on the skill cap. For all we know at this point, they'll open the skill point system back up to unlimited once level progression is all the way in. I don't have much faith that they'll do it (since that's the sensible thing to do, and this is Cryptic after all), but I'll wait and see anyway.
Also:
We’ll be fine tuning as well, but don’t expect thoughtless or harsh changes to game balance. We’re more than willing to wait and make sure everything we do is measured and calculated.
Is goddamn precious.
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- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
First Update
We’re already working on it and it’ll be out before you know it.
The first update is going to have more PvP, Klingon exploration content, more ground fleet actions, more ship costume pieces, more playable species, and then some.
"It'll be out before you know it"? Vague much. Please tell me theyre not reneging on the 45 day patch.
"Klingon Exploration" doesn't sound like PvE to me. More like Klingons get random encounters in space just like the Feds to. Not actual PvE scripted content.
Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering endgame tier cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse capping everything in sight while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
And for the record, a hybrid usually doesn't work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd have to sacrifice some effectiveness in endgame PVP to manage it, and depending on how the PVE community developers, they might get pissy about people not being in specific roles too.
Speed doesn't seem to really matter much. Unlike EVE, transversal velocity does not really do a whole lot with regard to mitigating incoming damage (apparently it does a little, but a negligible amount), and even if it did, you'd be tagged with a tractor beam and be made dead more or less instantly. Any escort will outmaneuver and eat you for lunch regardless.
And right now, as far as the skill cap goes, yeah, it's pretty ridiculously stringent. But until Cryptic opens the last five ranks of Admiral and puts in the 41-50 content, I'll probably reserve judgement on the skill cap. For all we know at this point, they'll open the skill point system back up to unlimited once level progression is all the way in. I don't have much faith that they'll do it (since that's the sensible thing to do, and this is Cryptic after all), but I'll wait and see anyway.
Also:
We’ll be fine tuning as well, but don’t expect thoughtless or harsh changes to game balance. We’re more than willing to wait and make sure everything we do is measured and calculated.
Is goddamn precious.
Yeah, I know about the speed thing. My point was that for PVP and PVE competitive scenario's that rely on doodads or control points, a Miranda, or a basic escort would probably be pretty useful if Cryptic hasn't gone back on their original promise to keep ship speeds comparatively slower every tier, so that lower tier ships still have a purpose.
And I have absolutely no faith in Cryptic not doing something both idiotic and overly drastic right out the gate in launch. They've stated that drastic changes are a part of their main method of balancing, in the past.
That does bring me to another point, though. Toward's the end of beta there were plenty of people bringing shuttles to PVP battles, so as to fuck over the Federation side and effectively put them one man down. I never saw an announcement on the forums, but did they ever state that they were going to bar certain ships at certain tiers from PVP? That seems like it'd be the quickest way to stop griefing like that.
i thought klingon was a "pvp race" so i can see why it doesn't have episodes.
Yes, Klingons are primarily pvp, but they have promised PvE content "in the future". Surely you didn't think ALL Klingons would ever get is battlegrounds and a repeatable "kill" mission. If that's true I would want a lot more changes made to the speed in which we level up and adjustments to how competitive we are in all tiers.
My only problem with the mythical "day 45" patch is that it's on day 45 and not day 29, which is the day that really matters. Get at least the Federation content out before the free month is up with the promise that the Klingon half will be out a couple weeks later, and you'll have far better retention numbers than you would otherwise.
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- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
They are not going to start charging for extra content mere weeks after they launch the game. Cryptic has a lot of faults, but one of the things they actually do very well is periodic free updates. You might recall with City of Heroes the "Issues" that they released which always had new crap for people to do. Cryptic is very good at post-launch updates.
And like I said, Cryptic does have their faults. The "Issues" they released for CoH never really added an end game. After like 3 years of development, their end-game motto was "reroll and do all the same crap again."
Hopefully with STO they will support all facets of the game including both end game raids, casual content, and pvp.
i thought klingon was a "pvp race" so i can see why it doesn't have episodes.
Yes, Klingons are primarily pvp, but they have promised PvE content "in the future". Surely you didn't think ALL Klingons would ever get is battlegrounds and a repeatable "kill" mission. If that's true I would want a lot more changes made to the speed in which we level up and adjustments to how competitive we are in all tiers.
you mention episodes no where in your post or what cryptic promised sooooo overhyping yourself?
Yeah, I know about the speed thing. My point was that for PVP and PVE competitive scenario's that rely on doodads or control points, a Miranda, or a basic escort would probably be pretty useful if Cryptic hasn't gone back on their original promise to keep ship speeds comparatively slower every tier, so that lower tier ships still have a purpose.
And I have absolutely no faith in Cryptic not doing something both idiotic and overly drastic right out the gate in launch. They've stated that drastic changes are a part of their main method of balancing, in the past.
That does bring me to another point, though. Toward's the end of beta there were plenty of people bringing shuttles to PVP battles, so as to fuck over the Federation side and effectively put them one man down. I never saw an announcement on the forums, but did they ever state that they were going to bar certain ships at certain tiers from PVP? That seems like it'd be the quickest way to stop griefing like that.
are you really making a post that contains both "lower ship tiers should still have a purpose end game" and "lowest tier ship should be banned from end game"?
i hope you can see why i don't like replying to your posts and why i hope others get why i posted this earlier
They are not going to start charging for extra content mere weeks after they launch the game. Cryptic has a lot of faults, but one of the things they actually do very well is periodic free updates. You might recall with City of Heroes the "Issues" that they released which always had new crap for people to do. Cryptic is very good at post-launch updates.
Kinda like how they're addressing the lack of content in CO by hyping up a big content push, then announcing that it's a paid expansion?
They are not going to start charging for extra content mere weeks after they launch the game. Cryptic has a lot of faults, but one of the things they actually do very well is periodic free updates. You might recall with City of Heroes the "Issues" that they released which always had new crap for people to do. Cryptic is very good at post-launch updates.
Kinda like how they're addressing the lack of content in CO by hyping up a big content push, then announcing that it's a paid expansion?
i thought this was a misunderstanding in that the big content push has not been announced and the paid expansion is unrelated
They are not going to start charging for extra content mere weeks after they launch the game. Cryptic has a lot of faults, but one of the things they actually do very well is periodic free updates. You might recall with City of Heroes the "Issues" that they released which always had new crap for people to do. Cryptic is very good at post-launch updates.
Kinda like how they're addressing the lack of content in CO by hyping up a big content push, then announcing that it's a paid expansion?
To be fair it took them about 5 months post-release of CO to even announce this new paid expansion thingy, so if they actually hold to the three month timeframe for Borg content then that would be pretty damn early for a paid expansion, even for Cryptic.
'Course the other scenario is that they blow by that 3 month deadline, continue hyping for another two months, and then do the exact same thing they did with CO.
They are not going to start charging for extra content mere weeks after they launch the game. Cryptic has a lot of faults, but one of the things they actually do very well is periodic free updates. You might recall with City of Heroes the "Issues" that they released which always had new crap for people to do. Cryptic is very good at post-launch updates.
Kinda like how they're addressing the lack of content in CO by hyping up a big content push, then announcing that it's a paid expansion?
i thought this was a misunderstanding in that the big content push has not been announced and the paid expansion is unrelated
It might be a misunderstanding. It might not be. Part of the problem is that, despite the howling and screeching on the forums, they seem utterly incapable of having a yellow-name post "Hey guys, there's a big free content update coming. The expansion is separate from that. Thanks!"
I recall when the thing was busted wide open back in CB that they were deleting threads and scrubbing posts about it, but either the mods are sleeping or they don't care anymore.
i thought klingon was a "pvp race" so i can see why it doesn't have episodes.
Yes, Klingons are primarily pvp, but they have promised PvE content "in the future". Surely you didn't think ALL Klingons would ever get is battlegrounds and a repeatable "kill" mission. If that's true I would want a lot more changes made to the speed in which we level up and adjustments to how competitive we are in all tiers.
you mention episodes no where in your post or what cryptic promised sooooo overhyping yourself?
Yeah, I know about the speed thing. My point was that for PVP and PVE competitive scenario's that rely on doodads or control points, a Miranda, or a basic escort would probably be pretty useful if Cryptic hasn't gone back on their original promise to keep ship speeds comparatively slower every tier, so that lower tier ships still have a purpose.
And I have absolutely no faith in Cryptic not doing something both idiotic and overly drastic right out the gate in launch. They've stated that drastic changes are a part of their main method of balancing, in the past.
That does bring me to another point, though. Toward's the end of beta there were plenty of people bringing shuttles to PVP battles, so as to fuck over the Federation side and effectively put them one man down. I never saw an announcement on the forums, but did they ever state that they were going to bar certain ships at certain tiers from PVP? That seems like it'd be the quickest way to stop griefing like that.
are you really making a post that contains both "lower ship tiers should still have a purpose end game" and "lowest tier ship should be banned from end game"?
i hope you can see why i don't like replying to your posts and why i hope others get why i posted this earlier
wow. I hope no one is really buying into what archonex is saying. remember, just because he's writing the most doesn't make him 100% correct.
You have issues. I was just asking a question. And posting a possible fix for an issue in the same topic as pointing out a possible gameplay mechanic that might be in at the moment isn't as schizophrenic as you're trying to make it out to be.
It might be a misunderstanding. It might not be. Part of the problem is that, despite the howling and screeching on the forums, they seem utterly incapable of having a yellow-name post "Hey guys, there's a big free content update coming. The expansion is separate from that. Thanks!"
Cryptic as a company seems to have issues with communicating with their playerbase. I think it stems from the fact that they treat updates to the game sort of like movie or game releases, hyping up the announcement, and deliberately not talking about it afterwards prior to a certain date. There's several issues in both game communities that would be solved pretty quickly by a developer or forum PR guy making a quick post explaining the situation.
That being said, hyping up announcements would work great for them, if they could keep some of the bullcrap from interfering with their announcements. Had Vibora Bay been announced after all that hype as a free content update the response would have been ecstatic on the official forums, rather then the frothing rage that alot of posters are in now. I imagine websites would be posting about the new content update too, rather then it being a paid expansion, bringing some subscribers back, rather then driving them away.
i thought klingon was a "pvp race" so i can see why it doesn't have episodes.
Yes, Klingons are primarily pvp, but they have promised PvE content "in the future". Surely you didn't think ALL Klingons would ever get is battlegrounds and a repeatable "kill" mission. If that's true I would want a lot more changes made to the speed in which we level up and adjustments to how competitive we are in all tiers.
you mention episodes no where in your post or what cryptic promised sooooo overhyping yourself?
Don't be a dick, dude. I wasn't overhyping anything. I'm sorry if I didn't exactly say "episodes" in my original posting. To me PvE = Episode Content.
It has been mentioned previously by devs that if people wanted Klingon PvE that they would get PvE content in the form of EPISODES to make them a more complete faction. This would keep them from being forced to do repeatable kill missions and exploration as their only alternative to PvPing.
If you can't go their because of work firewall, it says this...
Secondly, yes, Klingon gameplay is almost entirely PvP. We are trying to get some PvE in (there's already a tad bit). And, if the players demand it, we'll add more content (like episodes). I want us to be agile as a company and respond to what the customers want.
A quick glance at the "Klingon and PvP" section of the official forum will show you that, yes, Klingon players want PvE episode content (along with a whole list of other shit :P , but thats another story)
So when, in their state of the game, I only see a mention of "Klingon Exploration Content" in their "coming soon" patch, it makes me worried that the update will be solely "Random Encounters" and not "Episode Content"
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I would even say this is OP material.
Mine is doing fine, but this thread on the official site may have your answer. In short? get the dust bunnies out.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=74980
Check your PM's.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
I read that entire post, and it can be summed up like this: "Hybrids do not get all the advantages of their player class and ship type, therefore they suck". From playing both "pure" and hybrid-type characters to a reasonable level, I can safely say that this is bullshit.
Not only that, but he gets a few things wrong, too. In the near future we'll be able to "decommission" officers on our ship to allow them to be traded. In addition to buying/selling officers, this allows players to temporarily trade an officer to one of their buddies for advanced training. Also, "Fire on my Mark" is not a short debuff; it's a 60-second debuff with a cooldown of 60 seconds.
Yeah, I skimmed it earlier...
The points brought up got sorta got shot down. Hybrids are still valid, IMO. Even more so IF the rumor about rare BOs have skills in lower grade slots is true.
I'd also really appreciate a shuttlepet from Del Taco. If anyone gets a mexican craving and an extra STO cup, lemme know
Thanks much!
The temptation to pre-order the game this week from Gamestop is there, since Best Buy's is... well, a Tribble.
Edit: Damn it! Aussies get a friggin' Borg BO for pre ordering from their gamestop!
The only real downside I'm seeing here is that it'll be a little harder to get BOffs with level 3 skills that you can use because you can't train them yourself.
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miranda's 3 weapons vs end tier's 6-8 weapons?
miranda's 3 rank1 skills (3 total) vs end tier's 5 rank 1 skills, 4 rank2, 1 rank3 and 1 rank4 skills (11 total)
miranda's 3 consoles (1 each) vs end tier's 9 consoles (2x + 3y + 4z)?
(only have cruiser info) miranda's 10k hull vs end tier cruiser's (both types) 26k hull?
my guess is that max rank in every skill miranda would get destroyed by a rank 0 everything end tier ship.
if there was a section in the OP for misleading materials and examples of hype nerd raging over truth, yeah this link would go great there
hybrids can work. your "role" is determined by ship type. captain type in space adds flavor. the posted overhyped himself thinking the opposite. that captain determines role and ship adds the flavor. so his post is nerd raging how a tac cap in a cruiser isn't much dps because of the lack of tac skills. even then you can still do great dps with the tac cap in a cruiser, but i don't want to go into that.
http://www.minotek.com/os/news.php is a site you can go to to give some guy $3.50 for a code and he's basically made over $4k doing this already
there was a thread in the STO forums that involved some metal guy with $2 donation price but can't find it.
Miranda's insane endgame speed, versus a lumbering endgame tier cruiser or science ship's speed? Hell, a tier 2 escort might even be better.
They'd be the perfect control point gankers. Get two of them, and just fly around at full impulse capping everything in sight while everyone is busy duking it out, like players usually do.
Just because something has more guns doesn't mean it's inherently superior at everything doable within the game.
And for the record, a hybrid usually doesn't work at all at the moment, because there aren't enough skill points to go around at the endgame. You'd have to sacrifice some effectiveness in endgame PVP to manage it, and depending on how the PVE community developers, they might get pissy about people not being in specific roles too.
Comedy gold.
sci r5a: 9/0.15
sci r5b: 13/0.13
eng r5both: 6/0.15
tac r5both: 15/0.20
aside from this and the lack of understanding of inertia (didn't list them) and impulse mods, i can't make a good guess on it. but base on my runabout vs miranda and t2 ships, I wouldn't get too hyped over it lest you make some giant post in a month or two about how bad craptic is that your miranda is losing in end game content
and for the record, hybrid character in terms of that thread and my reply is a type of captain in a non captain type ship. so you can build around one ship type just as easily as you can build around one ship type.
I'd be very surprised if lower tier ships didn't have a speed advantage when put up against a similarly equipped end tier ship.
One of the stated plans back sometime around CB to make them at least have some sort of point in the end-game was to give them more maneuverability and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptic went back on that at this stage, however.
I wish I could find that post back in early CO where a developer tried to explain to an extremely confused thread full of posters how it was easier to nerf the shit out of something and then tweak it to where they think it should be, rather then just do a small tweak in the first place to fix the issue. He didn't get much support, if I recall correctly. I'll be interested to see how this "fine tuning" goes.
Speed doesn't seem to really matter much. Unlike EVE, transversal velocity does not really do a whole lot with regard to mitigating incoming damage (apparently it does a little, but a negligible amount), and even if it did, you'd be tagged with a tractor beam and be made dead more or less instantly. Any escort will outmaneuver and eat you for lunch regardless.
And right now, as far as the skill cap goes, yeah, it's pretty ridiculously stringent. But until Cryptic opens the last five ranks of Admiral and puts in the 41-50 content, I'll probably reserve judgement on the skill cap. For all we know at this point, they'll open the skill point system back up to unlimited once level progression is all the way in. I don't have much faith that they'll do it (since that's the sensible thing to do, and this is Cryptic after all), but I'll wait and see anyway.
Also: Is goddamn precious.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
"It'll be out before you know it"? Vague much. Please tell me theyre not reneging on the 45 day patch.
"Klingon Exploration" doesn't sound like PvE to me. More like Klingons get random encounters in space just like the Feds to. Not actual PvE scripted content.
Yeah, I know about the speed thing. My point was that for PVP and PVE competitive scenario's that rely on doodads or control points, a Miranda, or a basic escort would probably be pretty useful if Cryptic hasn't gone back on their original promise to keep ship speeds comparatively slower every tier, so that lower tier ships still have a purpose.
And I have absolutely no faith in Cryptic not doing something both idiotic and overly drastic right out the gate in launch. They've stated that drastic changes are a part of their main method of balancing, in the past.
That does bring me to another point, though. Toward's the end of beta there were plenty of people bringing shuttles to PVP battles, so as to fuck over the Federation side and effectively put them one man down. I never saw an announcement on the forums, but did they ever state that they were going to bar certain ships at certain tiers from PVP? That seems like it'd be the quickest way to stop griefing like that.
Yes, Klingons are primarily pvp, but they have promised PvE content "in the future". Surely you didn't think ALL Klingons would ever get is battlegrounds and a repeatable "kill" mission. If that's true I would want a lot more changes made to the speed in which we level up and adjustments to how competitive we are in all tiers.
That's a pretty big if.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
And like I said, Cryptic does have their faults. The "Issues" they released for CoH never really added an end game. After like 3 years of development, their end-game motto was "reroll and do all the same crap again."
Hopefully with STO they will support all facets of the game including both end game raids, casual content, and pvp.
are you really making a post that contains both "lower ship tiers should still have a purpose end game" and "lowest tier ship should be banned from end game"?
i hope you can see why i don't like replying to your posts and why i hope others get why i posted this earlier
Kinda like how they're addressing the lack of content in CO by hyping up a big content push, then announcing that it's a paid expansion?
To be fair it took them about 5 months post-release of CO to even announce this new paid expansion thingy, so if they actually hold to the three month timeframe for Borg content then that would be pretty damn early for a paid expansion, even for Cryptic.
'Course the other scenario is that they blow by that 3 month deadline, continue hyping for another two months, and then do the exact same thing they did with CO.
Thought that was just hopeful speculation.
It might be a misunderstanding. It might not be. Part of the problem is that, despite the howling and screeching on the forums, they seem utterly incapable of having a yellow-name post "Hey guys, there's a big free content update coming. The expansion is separate from that. Thanks!"
Looks like the Wrath of Khan code is on the main forums now.
I recall when the thing was busted wide open back in CB that they were deleting threads and scrubbing posts about it, but either the mods are sleeping or they don't care anymore.
You have issues. I was just asking a question. And posting a possible fix for an issue in the same topic as pointing out a possible gameplay mechanic that might be in at the moment isn't as schizophrenic as you're trying to make it out to be.
Cryptic as a company seems to have issues with communicating with their playerbase. I think it stems from the fact that they treat updates to the game sort of like movie or game releases, hyping up the announcement, and deliberately not talking about it afterwards prior to a certain date. There's several issues in both game communities that would be solved pretty quickly by a developer or forum PR guy making a quick post explaining the situation.
That being said, hyping up announcements would work great for them, if they could keep some of the bullcrap from interfering with their announcements. Had Vibora Bay been announced after all that hype as a free content update the response would have been ecstatic on the official forums, rather then the frothing rage that alot of posters are in now. I imagine websites would be posting about the new content update too, rather then it being a paid expansion, bringing some subscribers back, rather then driving them away.
Sure you can.
Buddy.
Pal.
Don't be a dick, dude. I wasn't overhyping anything. I'm sorry if I didn't exactly say "episodes" in my original posting. To me PvE = Episode Content.
It has been mentioned previously by devs that if people wanted Klingon PvE that they would get PvE content in the form of EPISODES to make them a more complete faction. This would keep them from being forced to do repeatable kill missions and exploration as their only alternative to PvPing.
Jackalope's posting
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=1121755&postcount=1
If you can't go their because of work firewall, it says this...
A quick glance at the "Klingon and PvP" section of the official forum will show you that, yes, Klingon players want PvE episode content (along with a whole list of other shit :P , but thats another story)
So when, in their state of the game, I only see a mention of "Klingon Exploration Content" in their "coming soon" patch, it makes me worried that the update will be solely "Random Encounters" and not "Episode Content"