What exactly are they telling the motherland about the US that's so damn important?
A couple of people have asked this question. Basically, it boils down to Russia wanting people in the US in case they ever needed them.
"They were here under deep cover, as a network in case Russian intelligence ever needed anything," said one law enforcement official, who like others quoted in this report spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing. "The idea was that they would become so Americanized that no one can ever find any connection between them and Russia."
I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.
Part of it was also they were trying to get people into policy-making circles such that they could influence US policy (though mostly foreign than domestic). There was also talk that some were infilitrating the CIA to an extent where they had influence over applicants, i.e. down the road open the door for more spies and such to enter the CIA employment easily.
What exactly are they telling the motherland about the US that's so damn important?
A couple of people have asked this question. Basically, it boils down to Russia wanting people in the US in case they ever needed them.
"They were here under deep cover, as a network in case Russian intelligence ever needed anything," said one law enforcement official, who like others quoted in this report spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing. "The idea was that they would become so Americanized that no one can ever find any connection between them and Russia."
I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.
Well, if ever they became active, it's a big deal.
Or maybe one (or more) of them were active, but either that information hasn't been released by the FBI, or the media isn't reporting it yet.
I guess?
I dunno, I don't see how a stay-at-home mom is really going to find out any important political info.
Look at it this way:
It's like leaving your door unlocked in a bad neighborhood. Maybe you haven't been harmed yet, but eventually someone is going to do something that will make you think "Hrm. Maybe I should have locked my door."
What exactly are they telling the motherland about the US that's so damn important?
A couple of people have asked this question. Basically, it boils down to Russia wanting people in the US in case they ever needed them.
"They were here under deep cover, as a network in case Russian intelligence ever needed anything," said one law enforcement official, who like others quoted in this report spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing. "The idea was that they would become so Americanized that no one can ever find any connection between them and Russia."
I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.
Well, if ever they became active, it's a big deal.
Or maybe one (or more) of them were active, but either that information hasn't been released by the FBI, or the media isn't reporting it yet.
I guess?
I dunno, I don't see how a stay-at-home mom is really going to find out any important political info.
Look at it this way:
It's like leaving your door unlocked in a bad neighborhood. Maybe you haven't been harmed yet, but eventually someone is going to do something that will make you think "Hrm. Maybe I should have locked my door."
Also, it's not about finding one big piece of information - it's about finding hundreds or thousands of itty bitty fragmented pieces that are completely unimportant on their own, then assembling them in a meaningful way.
So maybe housewife's next door neighbor is an admin assistant for a congressman, eventually through chatting with him or his wife she'll get a few tidbits and pass those on. Coupled with the tidbits from other people, that may build into something important.
I'd say it's more like holding random house parties. Eventually some of your stuff will get stolen/broken, and fuck you know who did it. (it was the Russians)
I dunno, I don't see how a stay-at-home mom is really going to find out any important political info.
Cliches aside, there are so many things a handler/contact-person/middleman can do to help other assets in their network. Details probably won't be forthcoming until after the investigation.
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I'd say it's more like holding random house parties. Eventually some of your stuff will get stolen/broken, and fuck you know who did it. (it was the Russians)
I think it's more like playing Baseball with your friends in an empty lot. Eventually, one of you is going to hit the ball into the neighbor's yard, and their bigass dog will eat it in one bite, then you have to send the fat kid to get it, but then, later, he throws up on a carnival ride because everyone tried some dip. And, well. You know.
I dunno, I don't see how a stay-at-home mom is really going to find out any important political info.
Cliches aside, there are so many things a handler/contact-person/middleman can do to help other assets in their network. Details probably won't be forthcoming until after the investigation.
If ever, actually.
Things like this have a standard "we're not telling the public" shelf life of 30-ish years.
I'd say it's more like holding random house parties. Eventually some of your stuff will get stolen/broken, and fuck you know who did it. (it was the Russians)
I think it's more like playing Baseball with your friends in an empty lot. Eventually, one of you is going to hit the ball into the neighbor's yard, and their bigass dog will eat it in one bite, then you have to send the fat kid to get it, but then, later, he throws up on a carnival ride because everyone tried some dip. And, well. You know.
James Earl Jones played a russian spy in that movie?
I'd say it's more like holding random house parties. Eventually some of your stuff will get stolen/broken, and fuck you know who did it. (it was the Russians)
I think it's more like playing Baseball with your friends in an empty lot. Eventually, one of you is going to hit the ball into the neighbor's yard, and their bigass dog will eat it in one bite, then you have to send the fat kid to get it, but then, later, he throws up on a carnival ride because everyone tried some dip. And, well. You know.
It's more like you and your three friends going to Las Vegas for your buddy's bachelor party and right before you go out you get slipped some roofies by your friend and then you wake up and try to find your buddy who is getting married in 48 hours and you run around Vegas and you get shot and you find out you married a hooker and Mike Tyson shows up and whoa, Ken Jeong has a small penis
I dunno, I don't see how a stay-at-home mom is really going to find out any important political info.
Cliches aside, there are so many things a handler/contact-person/middleman can do to help other assets in their network. Details probably won't be forthcoming until after the investigation.
I think the FBI knew about these people for some time, but were waiting for some information about the 11th guy that they arrested off-shores. Then, when they had him, they moved in on everyone.
I'd say it's more like holding random house parties. Eventually some of your stuff will get stolen/broken, and fuck you know who did it. (it was the Russians)
I think it's more like playing Baseball with your friends in an empty lot. Eventually, one of you is going to hit the ball into the neighbor's yard, and their bigass dog will eat it in one bite, then you have to send the fat kid to get it, but then, later, he throws up on a carnival ride because everyone tried some dip. And, well. You know.
James Earl Jones played a russian spy in that movie?
James Earl Jones would be the most frightening Russian spy IRL.
Standing in a shadow ally, in a trench coat, calmly smoking a cigarette. Just letting the smoke waft from his mouth. Then he looks at you, and says "Nyet" in that voice.
I don't know if I'm getting a boner or shitting myself right now.
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Also I'd like to point out that most russian spies these days are looking for industrial espionage, not like state secrets. So these dudes get jobs and then funnel information to Russia.
I love that the couple that still had really thick Russian accents were the ones in New Jersey. Like, the bottom of the graduating spy class gets sent to Jersey because really, there's nothing going on out there to fuck up.
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I mean, it sucks that guy got killed, but that removed from the situation that was a pretty cool way to murder someone. Stick them with a tiny irradiated pebble and just walk away.
Man, that Kaylee chick registered a cell phone to "99 Fake St." No wonder these idiots were caught. Not enough paranoia. There's a non-zero chance of someone seeing that address, and there's 0 effort in making a semi-believable address.
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Man, that Kaylee chick registered a cell phone to "99 Fake St." No wonder these idiots were caught. Not enough paranoia. There's a non-zero chance of someone seeing that address, and there's 0 effort in making a semi-believable address.
Man, that Kaylee chick registered a cell phone to "99 Fake St." No wonder these idiots were caught. Not enough paranoia. There's a non-zero chance of someone seeing that address, and there's 0 effort in making a semi-believable address.
Man, that Kaylee chick registered a cell phone to "99 Fake St." No wonder these idiots were caught. Not enough paranoia. There's a non-zero chance of someone seeing that address, and there's 0 effort in making a semi-believable address.
I love that the couple that still had really thick Russian accents were the ones in New Jersey. Like, the bottom of the graduating spy class gets sent to Jersey because really, there's nothing going on out there to fuck up.
This is only vaguely vaguely related, but Fresh Air a week or so ago did a piece on an Iranian journalist named Maziar Bahari who was imprisoned for like six months in Iran for no reason
And one of the things he talks about is that his interrogator/torturer was inexplicably obsessed with New Jersey as this wonderful place to be
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I love that the couple that still had really thick Russian accents were the ones in New Jersey. Like, the bottom of the graduating spy class gets sent to Jersey because really, there's nothing going on out there to fuck up.
This is only vaguely vaguely related, but Fresh Air a week or so ago did a piece on an Iranian journalist named Maziar Bahari who was imprisoned for like six months in Iran for no reason
And one of the things he talks about is that his interrogator/torturer was inexplicably obsessed with New Jersey as this wonderful place to be
I read the article he did for newsweek or maclean's or whatever. pretty fucked up
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Part of it was also they were trying to get people into policy-making circles such that they could influence US policy (though mostly foreign than domestic). There was also talk that some were infilitrating the CIA to an extent where they had influence over applicants, i.e. down the road open the door for more spies and such to enter the CIA employment easily.
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Look at it this way:
It's like leaving your door unlocked in a bad neighborhood. Maybe you haven't been harmed yet, but eventually someone is going to do something that will make you think "Hrm. Maybe I should have locked my door."
Also, it's not about finding one big piece of information - it's about finding hundreds or thousands of itty bitty fragmented pieces that are completely unimportant on their own, then assembling them in a meaningful way.
So maybe housewife's next door neighbor is an admin assistant for a congressman, eventually through chatting with him or his wife she'll get a few tidbits and pass those on. Coupled with the tidbits from other people, that may build into something important.
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I think it's more like playing Baseball with your friends in an empty lot. Eventually, one of you is going to hit the ball into the neighbor's yard, and their bigass dog will eat it in one bite, then you have to send the fat kid to get it, but then, later, he throws up on a carnival ride because everyone tried some dip. And, well. You know.
If ever, actually.
Things like this have a standard "we're not telling the public" shelf life of 30-ish years.
James Earl Jones played a russian spy in that movie?
It's more like you and your three friends going to Las Vegas for your buddy's bachelor party and right before you go out you get slipped some roofies by your friend and then you wake up and try to find your buddy who is getting married in 48 hours and you run around Vegas and you get shot and you find out you married a hooker and Mike Tyson shows up and whoa, Ken Jeong has a small penis
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I think the FBI knew about these people for some time, but were waiting for some information about the 11th guy that they arrested off-shores. Then, when they had him, they moved in on everyone.
James Earl Jones would be the most frightening Russian spy IRL.
Standing in a shadow ally, in a trench coat, calmly smoking a cigarette. Just letting the smoke waft from his mouth. Then he looks at you, and says "Nyet" in that voice.
I don't know if I'm getting a boner or shitting myself right now.
Those are not mutually exclusive...
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I mean, it sucks that guy got killed, but that removed from the situation that was a pretty cool way to murder someone. Stick them with a tiny irradiated pebble and just walk away.
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This is only vaguely vaguely related, but Fresh Air a week or so ago did a piece on an Iranian journalist named Maziar Bahari who was imprisoned for like six months in Iran for no reason
And one of the things he talks about is that his interrogator/torturer was inexplicably obsessed with New Jersey as this wonderful place to be
"Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
I read the article he did for newsweek or maclean's or whatever. pretty fucked up
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