Ironic racism to me sounds like when you make a joke about or allude to a stereotype and the joke is funny because of how blatantly stupid and absurd the stereotype is
Like if Chu were to say he's been cutting his spending and saving up for something important and I made some absurd reference to Jewish folk and money, or the international conspiracy backing his efforts
Surprising no one, the free ObamaphoneReaganphone program has been poorly managed with very little oversight. Looking at that little chart accompanying the article, Virgin Mobile and AT&T drank deeply from the government teat.
The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them ... A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification ... The FCC until last year allowed consumers to self-certify, without requiring documentation, that they met federal poverty guidelines. Subscribers didn't have to recertify once they were enrolled in the program, and there were few checks on whether households signed up for more than one cellphone.
I mean jokes where you pretend to be racist but it's not really racist because it's a joke.
With scare quotes because I don't really observe the distinction.
i kind of don't understand this position
I guess it's like death of the author shit. Like, all I know about Seth McFarlane is that he makes Family Guy. So when he (or one of his writers, I guess) writes a homophobic joke or whatever, all that is presented is the homophobic joke. There isn't a disclaimer that the real joke is that anyone would make such a joke (and I'm not advocating such a disclaimer; jokes that need explanation are not good jokes)... as far as anyone can reasonably tell, it is what it is. A statement where the humor capitalizes on bigoted assumptions without challenging them.
that has never been the typical premise of a racist or sexist joke to me (in a situation where we're assuming it isn't meant maliciously). there is deconstructive humor that examines the causes and effects of bigotry in society, sure. and then there are jokes that kind of poke fun at people stupid enough to say them. but in my experience the vast majority of socially insensitive humor is just "shock and unbalance with brutal comments", or "cleverly reference cultural stereotypes" or whatever.
i mean, i laugh at jokes that make fun of dumb yokels and their bigotry, and i laugh at dave chappelle. but i guess i laugh at a lot of other humor too that it seems like you think is inappropriate? not sure if i'm following you.
Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
I mean jokes where you pretend to be racist but it's not really racist because it's a joke.
With scare quotes because I don't really observe the distinction.
i kind of don't understand this position
I guess it's like death of the author shit. Like, all I know about Seth McFarlane is that he makes Family Guy. So when he (or one of his writers, I guess) writes a homophobic joke or whatever, all that is presented is the homophobic joke. There isn't a disclaimer that the real joke is that anyone would make such a joke (and I'm not advocating such a disclaimer; jokes that need explanation are not good jokes)... as far as anyone can reasonably tell, it is what it is. A statement where the humor capitalizes on bigoted assumptions without challenging them.
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
Surprising no one, the free ObamaphoneReaganphone program has been poorly managed with very little oversight. Looking at that little chart accompanying the article, Virgin Mobile and AT&T drank deeply from the government teat.
The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them ... A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification ... The FCC until last year allowed consumers to self-certify, without requiring documentation, that they met federal poverty guidelines. Subscribers didn't have to recertify once they were enrolled in the program, and there were few checks on whether households signed up for more than one cellphone.
Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
oh I skip all the irrelevant shit, unless it's going to get me laid
That is some of the most moronic shit I have heard in a long time.
How do you even approach those ideas and try to grapple with them seriously? There's so much bigotry to unpack...
I guess I would just end up accusing the person who said it of internalizing the language of white racism, and suggest they break free of the rhetorical chains in which they're bound. Additional slavery metaphor, blatant accusation that the opinion is an example of patriarchy instead of a protest against it, etc.
Good grief.
wait i can't tell which side you're on
i'm confused
There are more than two sides here
what, like a triangle?
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Ironic racism to me sounds like when you make a joke about or allude to a stereotype and the joke is funny because of how blatantly stupid and absurd the stereotype is
Like if Chu were to say he's been cutting his spending and saving up for something important and I made some absurd reference to Jewish folk and money, or the international conspiracy backing his efforts
Yes.
By it's very nature it underlines that fact that line isn't one believed in good faith, because it wouldn't be a joke. Sit there whilst I tell true facts isn't a form of humour by anyone's interpretation.
It relies on either having the teller/idea be the but of the joke, or through being transgressive in a shocking fashion.
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Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
Not personally, but my mother used ancestry.com pretty extensively to track down our extended family tree, information which we needed to prove our native / Metis status. Definitely helped her in her search a lot, if only by putting her in contact with extended family she was previously unaware of.
having somehow missed all opportunities for sexy time in the first game, and then hilariously getting friend zoned by Jacob in the second, I am having ALL THE SEX this time
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
Obama could punch a kitten in the face and you would say the black eye makes its fur look more lustrous.
A commercial could feature a person who happens to be a man unable to craft his own sandwich be saved by his wife who is the perfect sandwich maker and then you would come to the conclusion that the problem is that men are being pussified in popular media and be literally unaware of the problem of the woman being portrayed as sandwich maker so I really don't think you need to be casting stones about fellating President Obama's policies.
Obama could punch a kitten in the face and you would say the black eye makes its fur look more lustrous.
The program has been running with this particular oversight since 1986
The Obama admin (i won't say Obama because he has absolutely fucking nothing to do with this individual program) is taking measures to make the program more efficient
People have already detailed the specifics of the program and you aren't responding in good faith, you're either being willfully ignorant or trolling
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
IT'S CUZ SHEPHERD IS JESUS GOD DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO YOU
Surprising no one, the free ObamaphoneReaganphone program has been poorly managed with very little oversight. Looking at that little chart accompanying the article, Virgin Mobile and AT&T drank deeply from the government teat.
The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them ... A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification ... The FCC until last year allowed consumers to self-certify, without requiring documentation, that they met federal poverty guidelines. Subscribers didn't have to recertify once they were enrolled in the program, and there were few checks on whether households signed up for more than one cellphone.
Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
My dad did that. It looked like it worked fairly well. He got a pretty full set of ancestors for 150-200 years, then it got spotty. In a few cases, he can trace the line back to the 15th century. No idea what was involved with that, all I saw was the printout of the family tree.
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i have come to the conclusion there are 2 emnmens
the first is the nice calm soothing guy i have talked to in da past on vent
having somehow missed all opportunities for sexy time in the first game, and then hilariously getting friend zoned by Jacob in the second, I am having ALL THE SEX this time
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
oh I skip all the irrelevant shit, unless it's going to get me laid
I haven't yet fully wrapped my head around "War assets don't matter" so I am still trying to do everything.
The president has no direct impact on the program, and one could hardly call these devices "Obama Phones," as the e-mail author does. This specific program, SafeLink, started under President George Bush, with grants from an independent company created under President Bill Clinton, which was a legacy of an act passed under President Franklin Roosevelt, which was influenced by an agreement reached between telecommunications companies and the administration of President Woodrow Wilson.
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having somehow missed all opportunities for sexy time in the first game, and then hilariously getting friend zoned by Jacob in the second, I am having ALL THE SEX this time
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
which is why, if I had made Mass Effect 2, you would only have had time to acquire 4 party members (with all dossiers unlocked from the get-go), all 6 (4+M/J) loyalty quests, and maybe a handful of side things / integrated dlc before Bad Things started happening.
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
which is why, if I had made Mass Effect 2, you would only have had time to acquire 4 party members (with all dossiers unlocked from the get-go), all 6 (4+M/J) loyalty quests, and maybe a handful of side things / integrated dlc before Bad Things started happening.
You and EM should get together and form a game company making games that everyone hates.
Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
My mom's into it, and she uses ancestry.com with success.
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when chu says stuff like that i do lol though
It was originally for landlines expanded to cells under Bush
which these days is actually cheaper than landlines so whatevs
that has never been the typical premise of a racist or sexist joke to me (in a situation where we're assuming it isn't meant maliciously). there is deconstructive humor that examines the causes and effects of bigotry in society, sure. and then there are jokes that kind of poke fun at people stupid enough to say them. but in my experience the vast majority of socially insensitive humor is just "shock and unbalance with brutal comments", or "cleverly reference cultural stereotypes" or whatever.
i mean, i laugh at jokes that make fun of dumb yokels and their bigotry, and i laugh at dave chappelle. but i guess i laugh at a lot of other humor too that it seems like you think is inappropriate? not sure if i'm following you.
Has anyone ever tried one of those "ancestry" websites that track your family tree? If so, did you have a lot of success? It's pretty pricey last time I checked, but that sort of thing has tickled my interest lately.
Depends on the age.
If that's actually BeNarwal's card to his parents, it's actually a little bit creepy.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
yes, thank you.
I've been trying to articulate that for a while.
you haven't bathed in the north sea in february much I take it
And you could be presented with reality, and then post Obamaphone lady as if it rebuts reality in any meaningful way.
Looks like we're even.
Some humans their young devour them.
There is a little too god damn much sidetracking to random planets, stopping to talk to every crew member of your ship, and going back to the Citadel to jog a full lap just in case some pedestrian starts whining about their problems.
Yeah, Reaganphones sure make up for the whole "starve the beast, destroy all welfare" thing.
Hep C
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
Recent convert to Mormonism?
oh I skip all the irrelevant shit, unless it's going to get me laid
what, like a triangle?
Yes.
By it's very nature it underlines that fact that line isn't one believed in good faith, because it wouldn't be a joke. Sit there whilst I tell true facts isn't a form of humour by anyone's interpretation.
It relies on either having the teller/idea be the but of the joke, or through being transgressive in a shocking fashion.
Not personally, but my mother used ancestry.com pretty extensively to track down our extended family tree, information which we needed to prove our native / Metis status. Definitely helped her in her search a lot, if only by putting her in contact with extended family she was previously unaware of.
A commercial could feature a person who happens to be a man unable to craft his own sandwich be saved by his wife who is the perfect sandwich maker and then you would come to the conclusion that the problem is that men are being pussified in popular media and be literally unaware of the problem of the woman being portrayed as sandwich maker so I really don't think you need to be casting stones about fellating President Obama's policies.
burn cable companies to the ground
i now side with the proletariat
to arms brothers
The program has been running with this particular oversight since 1986
The Obama admin (i won't say Obama because he has absolutely fucking nothing to do with this individual program) is taking measures to make the program more efficient
People have already detailed the specifics of the program and you aren't responding in good faith, you're either being willfully ignorant or trolling
IT'S CUZ SHEPHERD IS JESUS GOD DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO YOU
you trollin, bro?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
oh shit
i guess im gay
My dad did that. It looked like it worked fairly well. He got a pretty full set of ancestors for 150-200 years, then it got spotty. In a few cases, he can trace the line back to the 15th century. No idea what was involved with that, all I saw was the printout of the family tree.
the first is the nice calm soothing guy i have talked to in da past on vent
and the second is the poster in this thread
Thius is more like Bush punched the kitten and you blame Obama for getting an ice pack
I haven't yet fully wrapped my head around "War assets don't matter" so I am still trying to do everything.
That is legitimately ominous to me.
well I never
Interesting.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/
I remember this. It was hilarious.
which is why, if I had made Mass Effect 2, you would only have had time to acquire 4 party members (with all dossiers unlocked from the get-go), all 6 (4+M/J) loyalty quests, and maybe a handful of side things / integrated dlc before Bad Things started happening.
Listen.
That kitten got punched 5 years ago, Obama has been president for four years.
That kittens brain damage is Obama's fault.
/every republican
we meet again, my old arch-nemesis
You and EM should get together and form a game company making games that everyone hates.
My mom's into it, and she uses ancestry.com with success.