i am serious about casting a non-white dude as daredevil
it's not like daredevil's ethnicity really has much to do with his character all
like the kind of arguments that get made for "why not black spider-man?" apply here
While I don't hate the idea of an Asian Daredevil, I really want Jeffrey Donovan as Daredevil. The dude needs work after Burn Notice ended, and he's awesome. Plus if you can somehow get Bruce Campbell as Foggy Nelson, and then Jessie in there as Ben Urich, it would be the best Daredevil show ever.
Also, I'm all for a black Spider-Man. Miles over in ultimate is one of the best Spider-Men in ages.
i am serious about casting a non-white dude as daredevil
it's not like daredevil's ethnicity really has much to do with his character all
like the kind of arguments that get made for "why not black spider-man?" apply here
While I don't hate the idea of an Asian Daredevil, I really want Jeffrey Donovan as Daredevil. The dude needs work after Burn Notice ended, and he's awesome. Plus if you can somehow get Bruce Campbell as Foggy Nelson, and then Jessie in there as Ben Urich, it would be the best Daredevil show ever.
Also, I'm all for a black Spider-Man. Miles over in ultimate is one of the best Spider-Men in ages.
Foggy Nelson should clearly be Phillip Seymour Hoffman, even though there's not a chance in hell he'd do it.
Daredevil needs to be good-looking, athletic, have great range and be able to convince as an incredibly smart lawyer. Oh, and convincingly act blind.
Donovan doesn't really seem like he's top of the list for the last two items. Last three items.
I'd say Donovan has range, and the last two can come from a good script and coach.
A few episodes of BN had him playing characters within characters that were at odds with each other (hyperactive drug dealer, neurotic ex-con, unbalanced follower of a madman, abusive boss) all while flipping back to "Mike" after a few seconds.
i am serious about casting a non-white dude as daredevil
it's not like daredevil's ethnicity really has much to do with his character all
like the kind of arguments that get made for "why not black spider-man?" apply here
While I don't hate the idea of an Asian Daredevil, I really want Jeffrey Donovan as Daredevil. The dude needs work after Burn Notice ended, and he's awesome. Plus if you can somehow get Bruce Campbell as Foggy Nelson, and then Jessie in there as Ben Urich, it would be the best Daredevil show ever.
Also, I'm all for a black Spider-Man. Miles over in ultimate is one of the best Spider-Men in ages.
I wonder who has the film rights to Miles.
Doesn't Sony have all rights to everything Spider-man? Excluding the merchandise.
Harry Dresden on
0
Options
Dark Raven XLaugh hard, run fast,be kindRegistered Userregular
They probably own Ultimate Spider-man, since Amazing Spider-man looked so much like it. Buuut. Would they own Miles as a character separate from the Spider-man identity by default? They're apparently getting Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Avengers 2, which is the loopiest of loopholes. So maybe Miles as not-Spider-man is a possibility.
They probably own Ultimate Spider-man, since Amazing Spider-man looked so much like it. Buuut. Would they own Miles as a character separate from the Spider-man identity by default? They're apparently getting Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Avengers 2, which is the loopiest of loopholes. So maybe Miles as not-Spider-man is a possibility.
SW and QS's loophole is that they're tied to Avengers, Miles is connected to Ultimate Spider-man so I assume it wouldn't apply in this case. I might be wrong.
I will say I'm kind of disappointed that Sif never appeared to even consider beating the tar out of Jane for fucking around with her man.
Sif isn't a barbarian. It'd also be counter productive to have a relationship with Thor if he ever changes his mind. Worst comes to worst she'll outlive the puny mortal then Thor will be her's.
+4
Options
Dark Raven XLaugh hard, run fast,be kindRegistered Userregular
Eventually Odin will get bored of Thor being happy and he'll wipe Jane's memory and send her home.
I'm not joking, that literally happened in the comics.
This is probably what will happen: MOVIE SPOILERS I AM NOT KIDDING
Because Loki is now the Allfather and he would totally do that.
EDIT: The only thing I really want from more Thor movies is continued superhero vs. utterly mundane situations. When they
"why are there so many shoes here?" picked up the keys on that planet, then walked through the portal and got in the beat up station wagon I just lost it in the cinema. That was just amazing.
Avengers 2 needs to have them epically travelling to Asgard to summon Thor, and then instead having to goto an apartment in London to find him.
electricitylikesme on
+5
Options
NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
Eventually Odin will get bored of Thor being happy and he'll wipe Jane's memory and send her home.
I'm not joking, that literally happened in the comics.
This is probably what will happen: MOVIE SPOILERS I AM NOT KIDDING
Because Loki is now the Allfather and he would totally do that.
EDIT: The only thing I really want from more Thor movies is continued superhero vs. utterly mundane situations. When they
"why are there so many shoes here?" picked up the keys on that planet, then walked through the portal and got in the beat up station wagon I just lost it in the cinema. That was just amazing.
Avengers 2 needs to have them epically travelling to Asgard to summon Thor, and then instead having to goto an apartment in London to find him.
Eventually Odin will get bored of Thor being happy and he'll wipe Jane's memory and send her home.
I'm not joking, that literally happened in the comics.
This is probably what will happen: MOVIE SPOILERS I AM NOT KIDDING
Because Loki is now the Allfather and he would totally do that.
EDIT: The only thing I really want from more Thor movies is continued superhero vs. utterly mundane situations. When they
"why are there so many shoes here?" picked up the keys on that planet, then walked through the portal and got in the beat up station wagon I just lost it in the cinema. That was just amazing.
Avengers 2 needs to have them epically travelling to Asgard to summon Thor, and then instead having to goto an apartment in London to find him.
You know, one thing I would kinda like to see since I know it happened in the comics:
Cap using the Hammer.
Like Thor's incapacitated, and Thor summons it, but instead he directs it to Cap.
It doesn't need to be a whole fight, just a few swings, but I wanna see it happen.
Thor 2 is everything a sequel should be; faithful to it's predecessor, fully fleshed out in it's own right, and opening doors for sequels and spin offs.
I really can't imagine how it could have been better.
Just got back from Thor 2 and it was a damn fine flick. I can't really think of anything I didn't enjoy about it or how I think they could improve it. Definitely a massive improvement over Thor 1 and another feather in Marvel's massive pimp hat.
I'm also having a ball comparing it to Man of Steel and how the strong headed God of Thunder is a more compassionate hero that actually cares about the collateral damage while Superman ended up being The Hulk in red and blue tights.
Isn't it extra racist to turn the white kung fu guy Chinese?
It would only be racist if there's literally all there is to his character. No one complains about the Asian martial artists in "Airbender," do they?
With that said, even if you ignored the "Mighty Whitey" undertones of Iron Fist's character, I seriously doubt that his origin story would translate well onto the big screen. Guy transports to mystical dimension and fights a dragon. Why not just bring back "Howard the Duck" while you're at it? Best case scenario, and it's a rehash of "Batman Begins."
I imagine that if they bring Iron Fist to the big screen, he'll just be a generic martial artist. At which point, why not just replace him with Shang Chi and be done with it?
Isn't it extra racist to turn the white kung fu guy Chinese?
It would only be racist if there's literally all there is to his character. No one complains about the Asian martial artists in "Airbender," do they?
With that said, even if you ignored the "Mighty Whitey" undertones of Iron Fist's character, I seriously doubt that his origin story would translate well onto the big screen. Guy transports to mystical dimension and fights a dragon. Why not just bring back "Howard the Duck" while you're at it? Best case scenario, and it's a rehash of "Batman Begins."
I imagine that if they bring Iron Fist to the big screen, he'll just be a generic martial artist. At which point, why not just replace him with Shang Chi and be done with it?
The correct conclusion to this line of thinking is that we obviously need a heist movie starring Shen Kuei, aka The Cat.
Eh, Iron Fist is kind of a racism catch-22. Either they present the character as-is, in which case its a white guy going to an Asian martial arts dojo and somehow becoming better at martial arts than all the other Asian dudes who've trained there their whole lives, which is kind of racist, or they make him an Asian guy in which case the character becomes an overdone "Asian guy is good at martial arts" stereotype. Which is kind of racist.
Eh, Iron Fist is kind of a racism catch-22. Either they present the character as-is, in which case its a white guy going to an Asian martial arts dojo and somehow becoming better at martial arts than all the other Asian dudes who've trained there their whole lives, which is kind of racist, or they make him an Asian guy in which case the character becomes an overdone "Asian guy is good at martial arts" stereotype. Which is kind of racist.
Is the white guy better at martial arts because he is white? No, he's better because he killed a dragon and stole its heart. Not racist.
Is the Asian guy a martial artist because he's Asian? No, he trained because he was pissed off over the death of a loved one. Not racist.
Either way, Iron Fist sounds like one stupid character, but whatever. I thought Thor sounded stupid until I saw his biceps on the screen, too.
Posts
Donald Glover as Matt Murdock.
Gillian Jacobs as Jessica Jones.
Chevy Chase as Luke Cage.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
too far
While I don't hate the idea of an Asian Daredevil, I really want Jeffrey Donovan as Daredevil. The dude needs work after Burn Notice ended, and he's awesome. Plus if you can somehow get Bruce Campbell as Foggy Nelson, and then Jessie in there as Ben Urich, it would be the best Daredevil show ever.
Also, I'm all for a black Spider-Man. Miles over in ultimate is one of the best Spider-Men in ages.
Nintendo Network ID - Brainiac_8
PSN - Brainiac_8
Steam - http://steamcommunity.com/id/BRAINIAC8/
Add me!
Daredevil needs to be good-looking, athletic, have great range and be able to convince as an incredibly smart lawyer. Oh, and convincingly act blind.
Donovan doesn't really seem like he's top of the list for the last two items. Last three items.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
I wonder who has the film rights to Miles.
Kat Dennings and Stellan Skarsgard take what would be a pretty good movie and kicks that shit up to 11.
Switch (JeffConser): SW-3353-5433-5137 Wii U: Skeldare - 3DS: 1848-1663-9345
PM Me if you add me!
Nintendo Network ID - Brainiac_8
PSN - Brainiac_8
Steam - http://steamcommunity.com/id/BRAINIAC8/
Add me!
I'd say Donovan has range, and the last two can come from a good script and coach.
A few episodes of BN had him playing characters within characters that were at odds with each other (hyperactive drug dealer, neurotic ex-con, unbalanced follower of a madman, abusive boss) all while flipping back to "Mike" after a few seconds.
This is very important:
Does Thor get hit by at least one car in the film?
Doesn't Sony have all rights to everything Spider-man? Excluding the merchandise.
SW and QS's loophole is that they're tied to Avengers, Miles is connected to Ultimate Spider-man so I assume it wouldn't apply in this case. I might be wrong.
He gets, like, knocked into cars
As far as "steps into road, gets run over," not that I recall
Sif isn't a barbarian. It'd also be counter productive to have a relationship with Thor if he ever changes his mind. Worst comes to worst she'll outlive the puny mortal then Thor will be her's.
Asgardians live like 5000 years, right? :P
I'm not joking, that literally happened in the comics.
Eric Johnson would be perfect in my mind.
Nintendo Network ID - Brainiac_8
PSN - Brainiac_8
Steam - http://steamcommunity.com/id/BRAINIAC8/
Add me!
He'll always be Flash to me.
Switch (JeffConser): SW-3353-5433-5137 Wii U: Skeldare - 3DS: 1848-1663-9345
PM Me if you add me!
He's become a decent actor. He has a great re-occurring role on Rookie Blue.
He was only on season 1 which was awesome.
Nintendo Network ID - Brainiac_8
PSN - Brainiac_8
Steam - http://steamcommunity.com/id/BRAINIAC8/
Add me!
he reappeared later on, season 2 or 3 i think. though if i remember correctly it wasn't really him.
Nintendo Network ID - Brainiac_8
PSN - Brainiac_8
Steam - http://steamcommunity.com/id/BRAINIAC8/
Add me!
This is probably what will happen: MOVIE SPOILERS I AM NOT KIDDING
EDIT: The only thing I really want from more Thor movies is continued superhero vs. utterly mundane situations. When they
Avengers 2 needs to have them epically travelling to Asgard to summon Thor, and then instead having to goto an apartment in London to find him.
You know, one thing I would kinda like to see since I know it happened in the comics:
Like Thor's incapacitated, and Thor summons it, but instead he directs it to Cap.
It doesn't need to be a whole fight, just a few swings, but I wanna see it happen.
That is all. Go see it.
I really can't imagine how it could have been better.
I'm also having a ball comparing it to Man of Steel and how the strong headed God of Thunder is a more compassionate hero that actually cares about the collateral damage while Superman ended up being The Hulk in red and blue tights.
It would only be racist if there's literally all there is to his character. No one complains about the Asian martial artists in "Airbender," do they?
With that said, even if you ignored the "Mighty Whitey" undertones of Iron Fist's character, I seriously doubt that his origin story would translate well onto the big screen. Guy transports to mystical dimension and fights a dragon. Why not just bring back "Howard the Duck" while you're at it? Best case scenario, and it's a rehash of "Batman Begins."
I imagine that if they bring Iron Fist to the big screen, he'll just be a generic martial artist. At which point, why not just replace him with Shang Chi and be done with it?
The correct conclusion to this line of thinking is that we obviously need a heist movie starring Shen Kuei, aka The Cat.
It's funny, because he's good at math.
Just for fun, here's Asian people as portrayed by Brett Rattner:
They're all evil, and then they die.
I totally agree with this. My favourite throwaway gag in Thor 2 was:
Is the white guy better at martial arts because he is white? No, he's better because he killed a dragon and stole its heart. Not racist.
Is the Asian guy a martial artist because he's Asian? No, he trained because he was pissed off over the death of a loved one. Not racist.
Either way, Iron Fist sounds like one stupid character, but whatever. I thought Thor sounded stupid until I saw his biceps on the screen, too.