There is another major difference between AQ and ISIL. AQ generally is aiming to take lawless areas and turn them into small nation states that can be merged later. So they tend to ally with various groups conducting insurgencies in an area. Various groups affiliated with AQ hold territory, such as JaN in Syria. With AQ having an eye to the future in terms of being the common force to unite these small emirates. ISIL has the goal of building their own nation state, with the long term goal of military conquest. This tends to lead AQ to a certain amount of plays well with others that ISIL doesn't have. But it also puts ISIL in a more vulnerable position. Land can more easily be taken away from ISIL and it reflects on them. If an AQ ally fails, it doesn't really set back AQ very much.
I did not know that about AQ!
The ISIL stuff makes sense. The article I read talked a bit about some of the ways the religious nature of ISIL can be exploited - one of them is that it's basically forbidden for them to make actual treaties or set borders
Yeah, so here is the thing. I wouldn't count on either of those things. I'll point out that hard core Christian fundies ignore the very simple "Thou shall not kill" all of the time. And from a practical perspective, they engage in informal exchanges with other groups. The one that comes to mind is that they sell oil to the SAA constantly, and exchange other services.
Right, but it's easy to fall back on "to kill was a very specific thing akin to unsanctioned murder," and there is also a difference between a given Christian fundie and an organization build around a religious ideology the way ISIS is. I do not doubt that they will find wiggle room if they have to, but I think, given their (apparent) recruitment base, that it would be damaging in a way it wouldn't be to an organization like AQ.
There is another major difference between AQ and ISIL. AQ generally is aiming to take lawless areas and turn them into small nation states that can be merged later. So they tend to ally with various groups conducting insurgencies in an area. Various groups affiliated with AQ hold territory, such as JaN in Syria. With AQ having an eye to the future in terms of being the common force to unite these small emirates. ISIL has the goal of building their own nation state, with the long term goal of military conquest. This tends to lead AQ to a certain amount of plays well with others that ISIL doesn't have. But it also puts ISIL in a more vulnerable position. Land can more easily be taken away from ISIL and it reflects on them. If an AQ ally fails, it doesn't really set back AQ very much.
I did not know that about AQ!
The ISIL stuff makes sense. The article I read talked a bit about some of the ways the religious nature of ISIL can be exploited - one of them is that it's basically forbidden for them to make actual treaties or set borders
Yeah, so here is the thing. I wouldn't count on either of those things. I'll point out that hard core Christian fundies ignore the very simple "Thou shall not kill" all of the time. And from a practical perspective, they engage in informal exchanges with other groups. The one that comes to mind is that they sell oil to the SAA constantly, and exchange other services.
Right, but it's easy to fall back on "to kill was a very specific thing akin to unsanctioned murder," and there is also a difference between a given Christian fundie and an organization build around a religious ideology the way ISIS is. I do not doubt that they will find wiggle room if they have to, but I think, given their (apparent) recruitment base, that it would be damaging in a way it wouldn't be to an organization like AQ.
It wouldn't be. The easy way to spin it is that group X has conceded to their demands. I understand the logic but very few groups show no trace of pragmatism. The bigger reason you won't see ISIL treaties is that for the most part they have managed to piss off everyone around them. Treaties require trust and ISIL doesn't really inspire that.
What is more likely is fixing borders. Sure they can't say "This is our border" but what they can do is say "We have no plans for an offensive here, and are just leaving enough troops for defense" which creates a defacto border.
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Right, but it's easy to fall back on "to kill was a very specific thing akin to unsanctioned murder," and there is also a difference between a given Christian fundie and an organization build around a religious ideology the way ISIS is. I do not doubt that they will find wiggle room if they have to, but I think, given their (apparent) recruitment base, that it would be damaging in a way it wouldn't be to an organization like AQ.
Oh my yes there are several very apparent differences from either of the previously mentioned sports like how they're playing on a soccer pitch!
I am understanding now.
it is less of an issue in Dublin (but still an issue) but jesus christ you are treated like a pariah if you dislike the sports here
Yeah using sticks as weapons in general is frowned upon in either of those :P
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@Alazull I sometimes will draw things people ask for in [chat] (not always and I don't always put a huge amount of work into them either)
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I do do animes on demand for $dollars$ tho
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he was responsible for a drink driving accident that gained national press
do you think he was reprimanded by the school in any way even though he is literally in two authoritative roles over impressionable young adults?
(the answer is no, no he was not)
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It wouldn't be. The easy way to spin it is that group X has conceded to their demands. I understand the logic but very few groups show no trace of pragmatism. The bigger reason you won't see ISIL treaties is that for the most part they have managed to piss off everyone around them. Treaties require trust and ISIL doesn't really inspire that.
What is more likely is fixing borders. Sure they can't say "This is our border" but what they can do is say "We have no plans for an offensive here, and are just leaving enough troops for defense" which creates a defacto border.
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I was half joking on that one but I'll prolly get something from you at some point
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