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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing
    It's an interesting thing to watch. I have concerns, but we have found a way to get around those concerns in the past. We'll need to adapt, but we are a pretty adaptable species.

    well before it was replacing work with other work

    this is kind of more replacing a lot of work with a lot less work

    And the people doing the replacing already have all the money.

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    MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    You know what is nice and safe because we make it half time anyway?

    Social science.

    (I have automated shit here that use to take weeks down to maybe an hour)

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Everybody who has used the term "vertical" in the past few pages no longer gets to make fun of business buzzword speak.

    If I'm going to catch shit for saying I work with "big data", y'all don't get to throw around words like "vertical" that I still only have a vague idea of what they mean despite like 4 different posts to provide context.

    I thought it was pretty clear I was being cheeky as hell, but I guess not.

    SYNERGY!

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    ugh

    they have implemented a new employee development plan thing at work

    i am now trying to come up with goals

    what is this shit

    I do that every year.

    Goal 1: Take a class in something

    Goal 2: Take another class

    Say you want to run an internship program

    Complain about never being able to hire good coworkers

    It's a great goal that looks like you're starting to be a manager one day but can be defensively knocked off course by any number of factors (budgets, too busy at key times, sick at key times)

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    Remember when Amazon was first investing in robotics and a bunch of chucklefucks wrote "Hurf durf lol" articles about it

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Chanus wrote: »
    i don't think a robot could realistically pull orders in a warehouse significantly faster than a human

    not just like some john henry shit but like logistically

    their main advantage is being able to work longer, not faster

    At Amazon, people don't go to the shelves. The shelves come to the humans.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    and you're all doing the thing where you line item every aspect of one side and only consider the initial purchase cost of the other side

    robot employees require maintenance

    in a dusty warehouse, probably constant maintenance

    Automated warehouses don't really look like manned warehouses. The shelves are super tall, aisles are narrow, everything is palletized, boxed, standardized. Maintenance isn't too bad on the cutting edge stuff amazon is looking at, but it'll be a while before it's cheap and flexible enough to hit mainstream.

    i dunno about amazon's warehouse but the shit that comes in the door here from taiwan

    dudes look like coal miners by the time they're done unloading a container

    that would screw up some fine ass robot parts i'm sure

    Oh for sure. But as more places go automated, there is a tremendous financial incentive to ship things clean and standardized. That manufacturer in Taiwan that shipped all those filthy parts loaded some cost off on to you because they know you'll put up with it because you have people there to do that job, and getting them filthy carries a tiny penalty. But if you automate the rest of your warehouse and suddenly those guys are ONLY in charge of unloading and inserting parts into your shelves, you become way less willing to hire people to do that job. You will pay a higher and higher premium for clean, ready to go parts packed in a standard configuration that an automated system can suck right in. It then becomes cost effective for guys upstream from you to buy into automation also. Things start coming in shrinkwrapped in clean little buns and you pay a little more but certainly not as much as paying human beings.

    I mean, I've seen this in action. We automate a system and the person running the factory goes to their upstream supplier and says "we are automated now, please pack your parts in this way so our robots can deal with them without human help. We'll pay a little more". And so they do. Until robotics are amazing, there will still be a limited amount of human interaction high up the manufacturing stream but it's a fraction of what we see today. And eventually even that will be chipped away.

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    OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    a guy said i had a unique approach that seemed to work - uhhhhh????

    fashion ladies in marketing said my outfit was eclectic but works because i went for it

    uh i guess i'm crushing today sort of but also being negged?

    outfit is light brown shoes, socks are argyle black mostly w/ blue and grey, light grey pants, black belt, polo that is white/black mesh with white collar/arm striping

    it is a weird outfit

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    SealSeal Registered User regular
    What if we hire a robot to sweep up all the dust

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Everybody who has used the term "vertical" in the past few pages no longer gets to make fun of business buzzword speak.

    If I'm going to catch shit for saying I work with "big data", y'all don't get to throw around words like "vertical" that I still only have a vague idea of what they mean despite like 4 different posts to provide context.

    I thought it was pretty clear I was being cheeky as hell, but I guess not.

    SYNERGY!

    Nah, the one that triggered my post was Senjutsu, actually.

    Like, before I thought "vertical" was an industry term related maybe to warehousing, or perhaps entrepreneurship or something.

    But then Senj tossed it at me like I was supposed to understand what it meant, so I guess it's a general term?

    It seems like it means "field" or "specific section of an industry" or something.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You match your belt to your shoes, black with brown is also kind of a color clash.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    navgoose wrote: »
    I feel the NRA is falling down on the job, they haven't submitted any kind of outline for a path to man-portable EMP weapons, to protect our jobs from the coming robot scourge.

    You don't open with EMP small arms. They will adapt/harden for that if they aren't already. Save any EMP effects for like surprise nuke.

    Look I've played an energy weapons build in the last two Fallout releases I think I know what I'm talking about.

    Just in case, I have plenty of teddy bears to slingshot launch.

    All I'm saying is any robot with enough armor that you even consider EMP over regular bullets could easily incorporate some EMP hardening.

    What if they went Iron Man style and converted those energy blasts into more chest cannons? MCU trumps Fallout.

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    I've got a 31" vertical

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    well no I probably don't anymore because im old and fat and out of shape

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Vertical is a business and finance term that will continue to be explained to me because I will never remember it

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Everybody who has used the term "vertical" in the past few pages no longer gets to make fun of business buzzword speak.

    If I'm going to catch shit for saying I work with "big data", y'all don't get to throw around words like "vertical" that I still only have a vague idea of what they mean despite like 4 different posts to provide context.

    I thought it was pretty clear I was being cheeky as hell, but I guess not.

    SYNERGY!

    Nah, the one that triggered my post was Senjutsu, actually.

    Like, before I thought "vertical" was an industry term related maybe to warehousing, or perhaps entrepreneurship or something.

    But then Senj tossed it at me like I was supposed to understand what it meant, so I guess it's a general term?

    It seems like it means "field" or "specific section of an industry" or something.

    I used it incorrectly really, just because Houn kept talking about moving into Chanus's "vertical"

    vertical would be like the set of companies, from low level parts & tools up to the high level companies that turn those into iphones and dildoes

    it's douche speak for supply chain

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    mine basically already is

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    I assume vertical is the cool way to say vertical integration

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Basically it's cool if people want to use jargon like "vertical", but that means I get to talk about how I leverage big data to mine insights into our customer base.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    We all do the dance

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    Yours maybe

    My artisanal shitposting is without peer.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    That's rediculous
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    we'll always be organically operated

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing

    Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Everybody who has used the term "vertical" in the past few pages no longer gets to make fun of business buzzword speak.

    If I'm going to catch shit for saying I work with "big data", y'all don't get to throw around words like "vertical" that I still only have a vague idea of what they mean despite like 4 different posts to provide context.

    I thought it was pretty clear I was being cheeky as hell, but I guess not.

    SYNERGY!

    Nah, the one that triggered my post was Senjutsu, actually.

    Like, before I thought "vertical" was an industry term related maybe to warehousing, or perhaps entrepreneurship or something.

    But then Senj tossed it at me like I was supposed to understand what it meant, so I guess it's a general term?

    It seems like it means "field" or "specific section of an industry" or something.

    I used it incorrectly really, just because Houn kept talking about moving into Chanus's "vertical"

    vertical would be like the set of companies, from low level parts & tools up to the high level companies that turn those into iphones and dildoes

    it's douche speak for supply chain

    omg vertical and supply chain have the same number of syllables, just use supply chain, douchebags

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    Yours maybe

    My artisanal shitposting is without peer.

    I find that claim a little steep.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    Basically it's cool if people want to use jargon like "vertical", but that means I get to talk about how I leverage big data to mine insights into our customer base.
    I think you mean you use innovative, cutting edge Data Science to gain a competitive edge in your vertical

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    s h i t p o s t i n g

    maybe the shitposting is the friends we made along the way

    desc...

    n-no!

    let's all go to the c o l o s s a l p i l e o f s h i t p o s t s do not bring weapons

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    Scuttlebutt is best jargon.

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    art is anal

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    I assume vertical is the cool way to say vertical integration

    verts, as we call them

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Everybody who has used the term "vertical" in the past few pages no longer gets to make fun of business buzzword speak.

    If I'm going to catch shit for saying I work with "big data", y'all don't get to throw around words like "vertical" that I still only have a vague idea of what they mean despite like 4 different posts to provide context.

    I thought it was pretty clear I was being cheeky as hell, but I guess not.

    SYNERGY!

    Nah, the one that triggered my post was Senjutsu, actually.

    Like, before I thought "vertical" was an industry term related maybe to warehousing, or perhaps entrepreneurship or something.

    But then Senj tossed it at me like I was supposed to understand what it meant, so I guess it's a general term?

    It seems like it means "field" or "specific section of an industry" or something.

    I used it incorrectly really, just because Houn kept talking about moving into Chanus's "vertical"

    vertical would be like the set of companies, from low level parts & tools up to the high level companies that turn those into iphones and dildoes

    it's douche speak for supply chain

    So if I do billing software and I want my sales guys to try to sell to insurance companies and medical companies, are "insurance" and "medical" verticals? What are horizontals?

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    the dream...

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Horizontal and Vertical as used for businesses and supply chains is definitely something I learned about in school at some point.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing

    Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?

    Right, the problem is with society.

    Don't make me say it.

    I'll say it.

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    Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing

    Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?

    ba-sic in-come

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    zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    Chanus wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing
    It's an interesting thing to watch. I have concerns, but we have found a way to get around those concerns in the past. We'll need to adapt, but we are a pretty adaptable species.

    well before it was replacing work with other work

    this is kind of more replacing a lot of work with a lot less work
    With the baby boomers leaving the marketplace automation will inevitably be what replaces them.

    And when Vasalgel hits the market, it will result in a drop in birth rate.

    There is a chance this works out in a manor that doesn't cause massive employment shift.

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    Yours maybe

    My artisanal shitposting is without peer.

    You say that now

    But it will be so much cheaper to pay bots to post old memes and heavy handed innuendo

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Some day even our shitposting in chat will be fully automated ;_;

    the dream...

    bob, the users are complaining about the quality of the shitposts

    no prob jim, I've dealt with this before -- just increase the .jpg compression factor and we're golden

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I mean, society obviously isn't ready

    The Orange Man is a good indicator of that

    I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style

    like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity

    Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it

    storm's a-brewing

    Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?

    For some reason that 1950's vision of "robots do all the work and we'll have time to play all day" stopped being something to aspire to.

    RMS Oceanic on
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