So when do the ARR quests get good/necessary? This stuff in Coerthas is really annoying. I don't even know who these guys are at this point.
When I was going through that part for the first time, I was ready to burn all of Ishgard to the ground for being such a bunch of unhelpful jerkasses. I do think the part you're in turns out to be necessary from a story standpoint, to set up some really solid stuff later. The Ishgardians aren't just giving you the runaround to pad quest time (unlike a bunch of the other shit you do in that arc, or the one prior to it). But I remember being told the same when I was in that part, and not finding it especially comforting, knowing the payoff was still so distant.
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Hey folks, I was thinking I should get back into this (especially as I bought shadowbringers/resubscribed). I've currently got a Lalafell archer that's about level 18.
Are there any good guides I can look at to peruse while I'm not playing the game? The official one on the website seems lacking.
Yeah, I guess so? And maybe just a general beginner's guide since I'm still quite early on.
Honestly as someone that started a few months ago the best beginner's guide is "play the MSQ; ignore everything else except the leveling roulette when you're bored of the MSQ; do your class quests when they come up."
This is decent, though I still think it goes into more detail than you need.
How you play in general is you pretty much just follow the main story quests around doing the story (and every 5th level a quest for your class/job), which you can see a reminder for in the upper left corner of the screen. If a quest sends you far away you can teleport via the map or the teleport menu to towns you've touched the aetheryte stones at before, otherwise you get to walk there from the nearest teleport spot you have. If you need to run a dungeon for the story, or you just feel like doing an instanced group content thing for fun or experience points, you can join a queue to get teleported in with a matchmade party in the duty finder menu, which is default hotkey U. If you feel like doing sidequests you see around, or doing crafting or gathering jobs, you can leave the story be and do that. If the main story quests get ahead of your level you can catch up with sidequests and/or running dungeons, but this shouldn't happen very often.
What class are you? At level 18 you shouldn't have a very complicated set of buttons yet.
If you want a quick primer on how to play, talk to an NPC in any of the adventurer's guilds with the little sprout plant over their heads. You get a quick couple examples of 'these are scenarios you will run into in group content based on your current role'. Finish them and you get a ring that boosts xp for any job below level 30.
If you log in and aren't sure what to do, then yeah just play through the MSQ.
each levequest npc requires you to do one combat leve to access them, there is zero down side to doing this as you level, since the msq takes you near each one in order by level
each levequest npc requires you to do one combat leve to access them, there is zero down side to doing this as you level, since the msq takes you near each one in order by level
In fact it helps because you won't be frustrated using up one of your Levequest allocations just unlocking it via a combat quest when you're wanting to level crafting or gathering
Aren't the quests literally 'pick up, then immediately turn in' anyway?
that's what I thought but then I got one that required me to do an escort quest and I noped right outta there. Haven't accepted one since
The combat ones come in a wide variety, dude. The descriptions will be good at telling you if it’s gonna be the one where you need to /beckon an NPC. Stay away from the ones talking about guiding someone out of danger or rescuing a lost fawn or whatever, and stick to the ones that just talk about culling monsters or collecting pages of the Necrologos (which generally boils down to killing monsters anyway) or whatever. The most onerous tasks that those ones require will be picking up a dropped item or using an item on a bear that is actually an imp in disguise.
The gathering and crafting ones don’t have a single escort quest among them.
I do combat leves when waiting on those interminable DPS queues.
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Right, I specifically got one of the escort quests as the intro quest to an area and said nah.
I'm sure they make good filler when leveling DPS alts but as a DPS first-run I'm only sitting in dungeon/trial queues when they're MSQ and I still have enough non-levequest sidequests to keep me occupied while I wait.
they're actually terrible for DPS alts too, just run palace of the dead instead
I guess if you want a break from POTD and want to do something while sitting in a dungeon queue they're an option
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squad missions are definitely boring but it's the sort of thing i turn on a youtube video for and let my dudes do most of the work now that they have rank 5 in all their combat techniques. they're such good exp that it's kind of ridiculous. it's a shame the dungeons only go up to 60 (and there are fairly considerable diminishing returns in the 50s anyway).
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When I was going through that part for the first time, I was ready to burn all of Ishgard to the ground for being such a bunch of unhelpful jerkasses. I do think the part you're in turns out to be necessary from a story standpoint, to set up some really solid stuff later. The Ishgardians aren't just giving you the runaround to pad quest time (unlike a bunch of the other shit you do in that arc, or the one prior to it). But I remember being told the same when I was in that part, and not finding it especially comforting, knowing the payoff was still so distant.
That doesn't make it enjoyable!
Well,
Yeah.
it's pretty important to establish that, with a few exceptions, ishgardians are a bunch of xenophobes, zealots, and assholes in general
but also boy howdy by the time I was done with them I'd forgotten about both garuda and the airship I'd gone there to find in the first place
Are there any good guides I can look at to peruse while I'm not playing the game? The official one on the website seems lacking.
Honestly as someone that started a few months ago the best beginner's guide is "play the MSQ; ignore everything else except the leveling roulette when you're bored of the MSQ; do your class quests when they come up."
This is decent, though I still think it goes into more detail than you need.
What class are you? At level 18 you shouldn't have a very complicated set of buttons yet.
If you log in and aren't sure what to do, then yeah just play through the MSQ.
But that allows for the Eureka unlock.
yeah but you can do them when you do that
that's what I thought but then I got one that required me to do an escort quest and I noped right outta there. Haven't accepted one since
The combat ones come in a wide variety, dude. The descriptions will be good at telling you if it’s gonna be the one where you need to /beckon an NPC. Stay away from the ones talking about guiding someone out of danger or rescuing a lost fawn or whatever, and stick to the ones that just talk about culling monsters or collecting pages of the Necrologos (which generally boils down to killing monsters anyway) or whatever. The most onerous tasks that those ones require will be picking up a dropped item or using an item on a bear that is actually an imp in disguise.
The gathering and crafting ones don’t have a single escort quest among them.
I do combat leves when waiting on those interminable DPS queues.
I'm sure they make good filler when leveling DPS alts but as a DPS first-run I'm only sitting in dungeon/trial queues when they're MSQ and I still have enough non-levequest sidequests to keep me occupied while I wait.
I guess if you want a break from POTD and want to do something while sitting in a dungeon queue they're an option
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Though heck if I ever managed to memorize them.
also my scrub self and friends finally killed E1S last night. safe to say it was pretty close:
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