Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
Was it from weapons or from Cardassian mining techniques? Both?
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Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
yeah sure they did, and they also had great haircuts.
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Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
yeah sure they did, and they also had great haircuts.
Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
yeah sure they did, and they also had great haircuts.
Just got back to the "Sanctuary" episode from DS9 season 2. This is gonna be rough given the current immigration climate in the US. I have a feeling (based on memories of previous viewings of the series) that I'm going to be saying that a lot.
Sanctuary, in my opinion, just does not work at all in the Star Trek universe. Sorry about your dumb prophecy or whatever, but the galaxy is littered with M-class planets, so I really don't care if you're sad.
Except they weren't looking for just any ol' M-class planet...they were looking for one where they could synergistically benefit the beleaguered population already there. What they were building towards was that it wasn't about the land at all.
Throughout the series Bajor has problems with food production. The Sanctuary aliens would have been a net benefit to Bajor because they were able to farm war-torn land.
lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
yeah sure they did, and they also had great haircuts.
The problem with Sanctuary is that they made the aliens too irritating and contemptible to be sympathetic. Like, I get what they were trying to do, but it succeeds to well and so we kinda just don't care that much. It's all to abstract to connect emotionally and on the surface level I hate them and want them sent back through the wormhole.
The crazy thing to me about the TOS movies is that they are kinda all over the place in terms of tone and such. Even the really good ones span some pretty broad territory. And yet they all work and are recognizably Star Trek.
Even the most maligned movie, V, gets one thing right: The entire Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship dynamic.
I can never hate V just cause the trio are at full throttle dynamic and its just so fun to watch.
The crazy thing to me about the TOS movies is that they are kinda all over the place in terms of tone and such. Even the really good ones span some pretty broad territory. And yet they all work and are recognizably Star Trek.
Even the most maligned movie, V, gets one thing right: The entire Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship dynamic.
I can ever hate V just cause the trio are at full throttle dynamic and its just so fun to watch.
I'm really tired and forgot what topic this is, so for a second I thought you and Wolfman were talking about V for Vendetta.
And now I'm imagining Kirk/Spock/McCoy hanging out with V.
The made-for-tv movies were great. I remember when the Scifi channel made a big ado about getting those rights and me and my mom (who watched it when it first aired) watched it together.
Onto the transporter-phobia episode of TNG and Barclay continues to be the best character in Starfleet.
Childhood is cringing at Barclay's antics. Adulthood is realizing he was the hero. Every time the chips are down, he gets over his fear and insecurities and saves the day. Even his holoaddicion eventually comes back around to save the day with Prof. Moriarty.
Dwight Schultz is such an amazing voice actor I've heard him in multiple game roles only to get to the credits, and sputter THAT WAS HIM????
Onto the transporter-phobia episode of TNG and Barclay continues to be the best character in Starfleet.
Childhood is cringing at Barclay's antics. Adulthood is realizing he was the hero. Every time the chips are down, he gets over his fear and insecurities and saves the day. Even his holoaddicion eventually comes back around to save the day with Prof. Moriarty.
Dwight Schultz is such an amazing voice actor I've heard him in multiple game roles only to get to the credits, and sputter THAT WAS HIM????
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my buddy just described Scott Bakula's Captain Archer as "your weekend dad in space, wearing a Canadian tuxedo on the weekend, sitting around in his denim jacket, and when you argue with him he tells you you sound like your mother"
my buddy just described Scott Bakula's Captain Archer as "your weekend dad in space, wearing a Canadian tuxedo on the weekend, sitting around in his denim jacket, and when you argue with him he tells you you sound like your mother"
So...
Basically...
Chuck's dad in space?
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Soooo... Star Trek, but without the Federation at all plus a big steaming pile of overwrought "we must save everything and it's down to just us!"
As I may have said before:
I've already seen this show, back when it was called Andromeda.
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I hope season 3 is better than 2 and 1. Season 3 was when TNG found its footing so I have some small amount of hope for STD. Picard looks nostalgic an expensive if nothing else. I hope it's good.
Soooo... Star Trek, but without the Federation at all plus a big steaming pile of overwrought "we must save everything and it's down to just us!"
As I may have said before:
I've already seen this show, back when it was called Andromeda.
I completely didn't even see that because I haven't seen that show in so long, but yeah, it's so damned obvious now. So the Discovery showmakers not only couldn't work decently with the framework of Star Trek, they had to go and rip off a different Roddenberry show as well? Oof.
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Yeah, if we assume that tech, at least, keeps getting better for 970 years, then if there are technological threats in the future the Discovery will be hopelessly outclassed against them.
If they're at a technological level they can even hope to understand and overcome, it means that tech hits a ceiling beyond which it will stop improving, which makes no sense given everything already depicted in series set in the 24th (and later) centuries. Unless there was a period of technological backslide for some reason, like a mini-dark age, and that sounds interesting, why wasn't this season set there instead?
So they had them go to a future where things kinda fell apart.
A show about an almost-80-year-old leader of rare principle, who comes in to save the day in spite of detractors who say he is too old to do the job, buoyed by a team of enthusiastic young supporters? Hmm, sounds good to me
My Picard prediction: he's scripted to die at the end, but the show will be successful enough that some suit will overrule them because they want a season 2.
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lack of manpower wasn't exactly an issue with Bajor's food shortage. The land was toxic because of weapons used during the war, they needed high tech equipment to reclaim the soil, not a bunch of idiots pocking in the dirt.
Historically, a government can survive anything but an empty stomach.
Was it from weapons or from Cardassian mining techniques? Both?
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I wasn't implying it was a matter of labor. The aliens specifically said they were capable of forming the toxic soil that Bajorans were unable to.
yeah sure they did, and they also had great haircuts.
You have a great haircut.
I do not.
I do
I can never hate V just cause the trio are at full throttle dynamic and its just so fun to watch.
I'm really tired and forgot what topic this is, so for a second I thought you and Wolfman were talking about V for Vendetta.
And now I'm imagining Kirk/Spock/McCoy hanging out with V.
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The series I was less impressed with.
Speak not of the reboot.
Dwight Schultz is such an amazing voice actor I've heard him in multiple game roles only to get to the credits, and sputter THAT WAS HIM????
the guy from the office?
So...
Basically...
Chuck's dad in space?
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I think it looks really good!
there's also a disco trailer floating around but it's region locked to heck and back so waiting for a more accessible version
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Okay that looks fantastic and exactly like what I want
LaForge may still be in command of Challenger.
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Well, I can hope they use the season to do something productive, like ditching the Kelvinverse reboot and putting the original timeline back in place.
As I may have said before:
I've already seen this show, back when it was called Andromeda.
I completely didn't even see that because I haven't seen that show in so long, but yeah, it's so damned obvious now. So the Discovery showmakers not only couldn't work decently with the framework of Star Trek, they had to go and rip off a different Roddenberry show as well? Oof.
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If they're at a technological level they can even hope to understand and overcome, it means that tech hits a ceiling beyond which it will stop improving, which makes no sense given everything already depicted in series set in the 24th (and later) centuries. Unless there was a period of technological backslide for some reason, like a mini-dark age, and that sounds interesting, why wasn't this season set there instead?
So they had them go to a future where things kinda fell apart.
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