It's that fucking UK TERF brain virus affecting policy
I can't imagine how you can look at all the injustice in your country and in the world and decide your vast wealth and global influence is best spent crusading against trans people
Supposedly Dominic Cummings has said in the past that the "culture war" over trans rights would be an ideal distraction to exploit when the government needs to cover for something so I guess that's partly what we're seeing
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It's that fucking UK TERF brain virus affecting policy
I can't imagine how you can look at all the injustice in your country and in the world and decide your vast wealth and global influence is best spent crusading against trans people
Supposedly Dominic Cummings has said in the past that the "culture war" over trans rights would be an ideal distraction to exploit when the government needs to cover for something so I guess that's partly what we're seeing
It's that fucking UK TERF brain virus affecting policy
I can't imagine how you can look at all the injustice in your country and in the world and decide your vast wealth and global influence is best spent crusading against trans people
Supposedly Dominic Cummings has said in the past that the "culture war" over trans rights would be an ideal distraction to exploit when the government needs to cover for something so I guess that's partly what we're seeing
This is exactly what's happening over here (Trump's poll numbers with Evangelicals have been plummeting somehow, so they launched attacks on trans health and shelter rights).
Not sure if coincidence (similar forces at play) or if coordination.
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So I came out to my grandma yesterday and it went better than it could have. She said she would struggle with my name and might slip up but she was happy for me and proud of me.
So I was feeling good today and got done up and felt nice about myself and was having a good time.
Then she texted me.
She basically said that she would not refer to me as Zoe or her granddaughter and that I need to accept that. She also demanded I be in the closet if I see her, and insinuated that she felt like I was being manipulated by my doctors and, as a former nurse, wanted me to provide my medical details.
So, that's great.
I refused and told her that until she accepts me and who I am, we will not have a relationship because I refuse to shove myself in a closet for her comfort.
But I also cried for about an hour and a half and feel drained and exhausted.
Fuckin seriously. If she doesn't have the spine to say it to your face, she already knows she's wrong
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the part of me that wants to find the good in everybody maybe wonders if she spoke to somebody else after you and they went all crazy person and convinced her that her acceptance of you was wrong.
but, my idealistic side is often wrong.
I'm so sorry, Zoe. Nobody should have to deal with that at all.
I do gotta say I am feeling much schadenfreude at all the conservatives who are looking at the conservative justices who voted for this going "you are supposed to help us oppress people."
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If Gorsuch turns out to be a Souter then I'll enjoy jamming it in McConnell's stupid face.
Good news almost doesn't seem real these days. But this is good, it's big, and it's real.
I had totally forgotten about this case given everything happening last week, and I am shocked this misery year didn’t continue. Gives me hope that the court challenges to last week’s debacle have a chance.
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I am super fascinated by how Gorsuch really doesn't shy away from being explicit that he's talking about the law forbidding discrimination against gay and transgender people
"An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids,"
(for any unfamiliar, Chase is one of the ACLU lawyers who argued this case)
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That's awesome in an academic sense but it won't surprise me if it, unfortunately, still needs to be its own battle as bigots seize on the guidance from Trump and refuse care even if that's technically not legal. However, that interpretation of this SCOTUS ruling would mean that the lower courts can just point at it and say "no, fuck off," so that part is good at least.
First of all, Gorsuch wrote the opinion. Handing a landmark ruling on civil rights to Gorsuch should tell you there’s some funny business in the offing. This wasn’t handed to the majority’s junior justice for the sake of doing yeoman’s work. In controversial opinions, the median justice might write the opinion to lay out the compromise terms that made the majority, but this opinion doesn’t seem to be all that prickly: the law says “sex” so you can’t discriminate on the basis of sex. The majority opinion isn’t based on a lot of sleight of hand or tenuous interpretations of different doctrines. Put another way, Sonia Sotomayor would have pegged an opinion squarely on that text in the statute too, so Gorsuch isn’t writing because of some kind of compromise. What’s the angle here?
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Made my best effort at transcription. What is the worst possible format to convey information and why is it Facebook
Note: i do not claim expertise on this topic. This is simply my transcription to a format that is readable on the forums
Gender Identities Around the World
Muxes
-Muxes are native to the Zapotec region of Oaxaca, Mexico
-They identify as neither men nor women and often take on caregiving roles within their families
-In November there Is a festival to celebrate the Muxes, called ‘Vela de Muxes’
-Muxes have lived in this region from pre-Hispanic times
-In 2019, Muxes were featured on the cover of Vogue Mexico
Sistergirls and Brotherboys
-Sistergirl/Brotherboy is a specific term used by the Aboriginal community in Australia to describe being trans in a specifically indigenous context.
-There is evidence to suggest that pre-colonialism, they were accepted in the Aboriginal community
-There are a growing number of resources for Brotherboys, who have historically received less recognition than Sistergirls
-Search ‘Sistergirls and Brotherboys’ on FB for a national resource page
Hijra
-Hijra have a long history in South Asia, dating as far back as 400 BC
-Many Hijras live in Hijra-only communities, led by a guru
-They often served as entertainers in the retinues of both Hindu and Muslim leaders
-in 1871, under British Colonial rule, Hijras were labeled a ‘criminal tribe’ and faced attempted eradication
-the repercussions of this law are still felt in the community to this day
Two Spirit
-“Two Spirit” is an umbrella term coined in 1990 to define gender variance among First Nations people in North America
-For example, the Navajo people recognize 4 distinct genders
-Two Spirit people were historically considered sacred or divine, and performed key roles in their communities
-However, European colonization resulted in increasingly poor treatment, which subsequently negatively impacted tribal law
Fa’afafine
-used to describe people of a third gender in Samoa
-Translated it means “in the manner of a woman”
-They are a part of traditional Samoan culture and are recorded pre-Christianization
-Colonization has made it difficult to trace their exact history
-An estimated 500 Fa’afafine live in Samoa, with another estimated 500 in the Samoan diaspora in Aotearoa (New Zealand)
Waria (Indonesia)
-Waria are commonly thought of as men who have a woman’s soul, thereby combining the two genders
-the term is a combination of ‘wanita’ (woman) and ‘pria’ (man)
-Some people believe that Waria have spiritual powers and they are often employed as shamans or priests
-Warias can often be publicly portrayed in a negative light, but that does not do justice to their vsriety of lived experiences.
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First of all, Gorsuch wrote the opinion. Handing a landmark ruling on civil rights to Gorsuch should tell you there’s some funny business in the offing. This wasn’t handed to the majority’s junior justice for the sake of doing yeoman’s work. In controversial opinions, the median justice might write the opinion to lay out the compromise terms that made the majority, but this opinion doesn’t seem to be all that prickly: the law says “sex” so you can’t discriminate on the basis of sex. The majority opinion isn’t based on a lot of sleight of hand or tenuous interpretations of different doctrines. Put another way, Sonia Sotomayor would have pegged an opinion squarely on that text in the statute too, so Gorsuch isn’t writing because of some kind of compromise. What’s the angle here?
Not that I trust Gorsuch at all, but reading the article it seems like an extremely long-winded way to say that textualism is bullshit and leads to bad faith interpretations of laws when it suits people’s political agenda, which is A: already well known, and B: doesn’t always lead to such interpretations, as Gorsuch is arguing against a different set of dictionary-citing textualists dissenting in this case.
Like, “textualist arguments say it’s dangerous to use context to interpret the meaning of laws” is not something unique to this opinion and as noted, consistency with textualist precedent is clearly not something the court cares about anyway.
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Spoiled for convenience because it's a bunch of images:
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Oh yeah cool
There are a vast and broad tapestry of genders across time and cultures
The 17th-19th century campaigns of eradication which were undertaken in the name of Enlightenment ideals broadly as “civilizing” are a crime only eclipsed by all the other genocides begotten by imperialism
fuck gendered marketing
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There are a vast and broad tapestry of genders across time and cultures
The 17th-19th century campaigns of eradication which were undertaken in the name of Enlightenment ideals broadly as “civilizing” are a crime only eclipsed by all the other genocides begotten by imperialism
Yuuuup.
The Gender Binary is White Supremacist Colonial Bullshit to its core.
I mean it's been a little while but wasn't one of the few ways Gorsuch was less than the Conservative ideal of a Supreme Court Nominee is that he had a history of being open to extending civil rights to members of the LGBTQ community through rulings? So not that weird. Still weird that the other justices decided to allow him to write the brief.
I could be wrong, but I think I remember that coming up as one of the points during his confirmation hearing.
That’s his old school. Just posted two hours ago, along with a “Black Lives Matter” white text on black background tweet a few hours prior. You know, three weeks after George Floyd was murdered.
I don't like gloating, and when someone finds themselves in a position where I can twist the knife with a gleeful "I told you so", I would rather not...
...But...
listening to some of the more backwater Conservative youtubes bellyache about the recent SCOTUS decision just rings the cockles of my heart. I just want to tell them how sorry I am that they can't be such shitty person anymore. I have heard so many stories of people losing their jobs after coming out/being outed. So you can't fire Jim anymore because he has "teh gay". well.... good!
Oh just wait though! I'm already seeing calls to repeal the Civil Rights Act, threats to ignore the ruling, and, my favorite, "this goes against my first amendment rights".
So be prepared my fellow boys, girls, and non-binaries, people have been emboldened to say out loud in frustration what they only recently kept as whispers. It's probably going to get yucky.
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Supposedly Dominic Cummings has said in the past that the "culture war" over trans rights would be an ideal distraction to exploit when the government needs to cover for something so I guess that's partly what we're seeing
Fuck that man so very much
Not sure if coincidence (similar forces at play) or if coordination.
So I was feeling good today and got done up and felt nice about myself and was having a good time.
Then she texted me.
She basically said that she would not refer to me as Zoe or her granddaughter and that I need to accept that. She also demanded I be in the closet if I see her, and insinuated that she felt like I was being manipulated by my doctors and, as a former nurse, wanted me to provide my medical details.
So, that's great.
I refused and told her that until she accepts me and who I am, we will not have a relationship because I refuse to shove myself in a closet for her comfort.
But I also cried for about an hour and a half and feel drained and exhausted.
Fuckin seriously. If she doesn't have the spine to say it to your face, she already knows she's wrong
but, my idealistic side is often wrong.
I'm so sorry, Zoe. Nobody should have to deal with that at all.
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SCOTUS upholds that employees cannot be fired from their jobs due to being "homosexual or transgender" as it's a violation of Title VII.
I'm in tears y'all. I can't believe it.
Obviously it is a great load off a great many people's minds. Just... wow.
Steam
This is some much needed good news after last week.
Good news almost doesn't seem real these days. But this is good, it's big, and it's real.
Let's back up on the Souter stuff. He's had plenty of bad opinions. He just didn't this time.
thanks for failing at sabotaging black civil rights so badly that you accidentally gave them to women and LGBT people too, fucker!
(for any unfamiliar, Chase is one of the ACLU lawyers who argued this case)
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Yea, but that's not a court fight. That's a legislature fight.
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https://abovethelaw.com/2020/06/neil-gorsuch-lays-landmines-throughout-lgbtq-discrimination-opinion/
Is there a summary for people who can’t facebook?
Note: i do not claim expertise on this topic. This is simply my transcription to a format that is readable on the forums
Gender Identities Around the World
Muxes
-Muxes are native to the Zapotec region of Oaxaca, Mexico
-They identify as neither men nor women and often take on caregiving roles within their families
-In November there Is a festival to celebrate the Muxes, called ‘Vela de Muxes’
-Muxes have lived in this region from pre-Hispanic times
-In 2019, Muxes were featured on the cover of Vogue Mexico
Sistergirls and Brotherboys
-Sistergirl/Brotherboy is a specific term used by the Aboriginal community in Australia to describe being trans in a specifically indigenous context.
-There is evidence to suggest that pre-colonialism, they were accepted in the Aboriginal community
-There are a growing number of resources for Brotherboys, who have historically received less recognition than Sistergirls
-Search ‘Sistergirls and Brotherboys’ on FB for a national resource page
Hijra
-Hijra have a long history in South Asia, dating as far back as 400 BC
-Many Hijras live in Hijra-only communities, led by a guru
-They often served as entertainers in the retinues of both Hindu and Muslim leaders
-in 1871, under British Colonial rule, Hijras were labeled a ‘criminal tribe’ and faced attempted eradication
-the repercussions of this law are still felt in the community to this day
Two Spirit
-“Two Spirit” is an umbrella term coined in 1990 to define gender variance among First Nations people in North America
-For example, the Navajo people recognize 4 distinct genders
-Two Spirit people were historically considered sacred or divine, and performed key roles in their communities
-However, European colonization resulted in increasingly poor treatment, which subsequently negatively impacted tribal law
Fa’afafine
-used to describe people of a third gender in Samoa
-Translated it means “in the manner of a woman”
-They are a part of traditional Samoan culture and are recorded pre-Christianization
-Colonization has made it difficult to trace their exact history
-An estimated 500 Fa’afafine live in Samoa, with another estimated 500 in the Samoan diaspora in Aotearoa (New Zealand)
Waria (Indonesia)
-Waria are commonly thought of as men who have a woman’s soul, thereby combining the two genders
-the term is a combination of ‘wanita’ (woman) and ‘pria’ (man)
-Some people believe that Waria have spiritual powers and they are often employed as shamans or priests
-Warias can often be publicly portrayed in a negative light, but that does not do justice to their vsriety of lived experiences.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Not that I trust Gorsuch at all, but reading the article it seems like an extremely long-winded way to say that textualism is bullshit and leads to bad faith interpretations of laws when it suits people’s political agenda, which is A: already well known, and B: doesn’t always lead to such interpretations, as Gorsuch is arguing against a different set of dictionary-citing textualists dissenting in this case.
Like, “textualist arguments say it’s dangerous to use context to interpret the meaning of laws” is not something unique to this opinion and as noted, consistency with textualist precedent is clearly not something the court cares about anyway.
Spoiled for convenience because it's a bunch of images:
There are a vast and broad tapestry of genders across time and cultures
The 17th-19th century campaigns of eradication which were undertaken in the name of Enlightenment ideals broadly as “civilizing” are a crime only eclipsed by all the other genocides begotten by imperialism
End at-will employment for most
Institute at-will employment for cops
Abolish the police
Yuuuup.
The Gender Binary is White Supremacist Colonial Bullshit to its core.
"The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it." -- Jack Kirby
I could be wrong, but I think I remember that coming up as one of the points during his confirmation hearing.
That’s his old school. Just posted two hours ago, along with a “Black Lives Matter” white text on black background tweet a few hours prior. You know, three weeks after George Floyd was murdered.
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...But...
listening to some of the more backwater Conservative youtubes bellyache about the recent SCOTUS decision just rings the cockles of my heart. I just want to tell them how sorry I am that they can't be such shitty person anymore. I have heard so many stories of people losing their jobs after coming out/being outed. So you can't fire Jim anymore because he has "teh gay". well.... good!
Oh just wait though! I'm already seeing calls to repeal the Civil Rights Act, threats to ignore the ruling, and, my favorite, "this goes against my first amendment rights".
So be prepared my fellow boys, girls, and non-binaries, people have been emboldened to say out loud in frustration what they only recently kept as whispers. It's probably going to get yucky.