I believe you're going to see a strong resurgence of drive-ins and small theaters, not even the restaurant cinemas but just classy small theaters that play bigger movies instead of the arty farty movies. Nice, clean simple theaters, almost the size of the mall cinemas, 6 screen classatoriums, not 24 screen shit kicker 69Xperiences.
In general I think you're going to see a lot of mid tier movies come back too like in the 80's and early 90's, because throwing 30 milly at a movie and just making double or triple back will look good instead of 200 milly blockbusters that people were already getting sick of before this shit happened.
I feel crazy saying this but 200 million isn't even blockbuster money these days. If you aren't dropping 300m+ before marketing it's just your average summer movie.
What's the point in a shitty theatre for mainstream releases? Unless you are delivering the big screen with the big sound and the good sightlines, what's the point? Smaller theatres can survive on niche appeal via title selection and events but for your big theatre, the experience is what they are selling.
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Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
You know what, You're Next totally counts.
Here are some others in the same kinda-sorta vein, but their quality is very inconsistent:
I believe you're going to see a strong resurgence of drive-ins and small theaters, not even the restaurant cinemas but just classy small theaters that play bigger movies instead of the arty farty movies. Nice, clean simple theaters, almost the size of the mall cinemas, 6 screen classatoriums, not 24 screen shit kicker 69Xperiences.
In general I think you're going to see a lot of mid tier movies come back too like in the 80's and early 90's, because throwing 30 milly at a movie and just making double or triple back will look good instead of 200 milly blockbusters that people were already getting sick of before this shit happened.
I hope drive ins make a come back, I miss them.
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I believe you're going to see a strong resurgence of drive-ins and small theaters, not even the restaurant cinemas but just classy small theaters that play bigger movies instead of the arty farty movies. Nice, clean simple theaters, almost the size of the mall cinemas, 6 screen classatoriums, not 24 screen shit kicker 69Xperiences.
In general I think you're going to see a lot of mid tier movies come back too like in the 80's and early 90's, because throwing 30 milly at a movie and just making double or triple back will look good instead of 200 milly blockbusters that people were already getting sick of before this shit happened.
I hope drive ins make a come back, I miss them.
They need an assload of space to work. That isn't readily available outside of a not-yet-fully-developed suburb.
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Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
Yeah, Law Abiding Citizen.
Its a horrific movie.
Absolutely hated the ending there.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
And here I was thinking this might be a Wiseman-esque documentary about a small-scale political institution. It's still a documentary, but one focused on a night of debate called 'A Dialogue on Women's Liberation' at The Town Hall in New York in 1971. The debate is moderated by author (and wife stabber) Norman Mailer, and the speakers are Jacqueline Ceballos, Germaine Greer, Jill Johnston, and Diana Trilling.
In 1970's, second-wave feminist fashion, some of the ideas are a bit antiquated or naive (Ceballos in particular asserts that the root of the civil rights, environmentalist, and peace movements is women's lib), but they're nonetheless interesting and often presented in personal and enjoyable ways. Jill Johston's sardonic, free-associative poetry is especially fun for example. Once the speeches are finished (all of them finished with Mailer posing a question that appears to go unaddressed for the rest of the night), the floor is opened for questions, and Greer and Mailer then dominate the conversation. Some of the questions are asked by great minds like Susan Sontag, and Cynthia Ozick, who's particularly hilarious.
The entire night is bathed in heckling, laughter, and bitter disagreement; and yes, it is performative, but it has a kind of joviality that's lost in modern debate. It seems like it would have been fun being there, as the collective goal really appears to be people trying to better understand one another, Mailer included. In one moment, interrupted by members of the audience, Mailer barks: "A true perspective of the future is that it will end with nothing but assholes talking to assholes!"---different eras and all, but I'd say he ended up being partially right.
(there isn't much to say about the film itself other than that the camera work is good and the sound often unsatisfactory; I watched it with subtitles because it was difficult to parse what certain people were saying)
Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
Yeah, Law Abiding Citizen.
Its a horrific movie.
Absolutely hated the ending there.
Been a while since I've seen that, but isn't it the one where the vigilante imprisoned super-genius father is trying to make these points about the justice system by brutally murdering the people involved with freeing his family's blatantly-guilty murderers, is solidly on-task for murder the whole movie, and then does an enormous character 180 after accidentally blowing up a random innocent clerk (while trying to blow up the guy trying to stop him but had basically nothing to do with the murder case) and calls it "collateral damage" or some dumbass shit like that?
Cuz if that's the one, yeah, moronic ending. Basically just a completely different movie and set of characters once the car bomb thing happens, makes the movie completely fucking pointless.
Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
Yeah, Law Abiding Citizen.
Its a horrific movie.
Absolutely hated the ending there.
Been a while since I've seen that, but isn't it the one where the vigilante imprisoned super-genius father is trying to make these points about the justice system by brutally murdering the people involved with freeing his family's blatantly-guilty murderers, is solidly on-task for murder the whole movie, and then does an enormous character 180 after accidentally blowing up a random innocent clerk (while trying to blow up the guy trying to stop him but had basically nothing to do with the murder case) and calls it "collateral damage" or some dumbass shit like that?
Cuz if that's the one, yeah, moronic ending. Basically just a completely different movie and set of characters once the car bomb thing happens, makes the movie completely fucking pointless.
IIRC, that was a case of the writers having a sudden realization that "oh shit, we can't let this guy actually win and turn out to be right."
Was that Colm "Miles O'Brien" Meaney in the background? I was recently thrown quite a bit when he turned up in John Huston's The Dead (1987), which kinda made me think that the entire film was actually an extended holodeck session. I mean, which true-blooded Irishman wouldn't want his holodeck adventure to be a Joycean Christas dinner?
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Meaney's excellent in the movie. He's been around for ages, and pops up in some great movies. He's an Elvis loving dad of the main character in The Commitments, one of the terrorists in Under Siege and Don Revie in The Damned United.
I feel crazy saying this but 200 million isn't even blockbuster money these days. If you aren't dropping 300m+ before marketing it's just your average summer movie.
This isn't true. The number of films that have cost more than $200 is still quite small. Only a half dozen or so in the last 20 years have cost $300 million or more and most of those were superhero ensemble movies with huge big name casts, Johnny Depp paycheck delivery systems or stuff that was stuck in development hell for years and years.
The next two Marvel movies are around $200 million apiece, and the next Bond movie, which must surely be channelling tens of millions into Daniel Craig's bank account, is still $250 million.
Are there any horror movies where the hideous killer goes about the usual killing but then stumbles across someone worse and is himself killed? The Friday the 13th movie where Jason fights Carrie comes to mind but is there something maybe less supernatural? The last Predator movie semi-fits where a Predator is hunted and killed by an even bigger Predator.
Meaney's excellent in the movie. He's been around for ages, and pops up in some great movies. He's an Elvis loving dad of the main character in The Commitments, one of the terrorists in Under Siege and Don Revie in The Damned United.
I just finished The Man Who Killed Don Quixote and I think I loved it?
I guess I didn't realize this came out.
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I tried rewatching Law Abiding Citizen and had to turn it off. It turns out "Angry white man murders a surprising number of people of color in his quest for revenge against the system" isn't something I can sit through anymore.
I tried rewatching Law Abiding Citizen and had to turn it off. It turns out "Angry white man murders a surprising number of people of color in his quest for revenge against the system" isn't something I can sit through anymore.
I tried rewatching Law Abiding Citizen and had to turn it off. It turns out "Angry white man murders a surprising number of people of color in his quest for revenge against the system" isn't something I can sit through anymore.
See I get not wanting to finish the movie - however, I can’t remember that he even kills one person of color in the movie..
is this because yesterday was Coogan's 55th birthday or is this just an amazing cosmic coincidence?
Just a coincidence. I watch that video half a dozen times a year at least to instantly improve my mood. The bit where he breaks from yelling about fog lights to mime WOOOAHHHH has not yet failed to make me grin widely.
Meaney's excellent in the movie. He's been around for ages, and pops up in some great movies. He's an Elvis loving dad of the main character in The Commitments, one of the terrorists in Under Siege and Don Revie in The Damned United.
The next two Marvel movies are around $200 million apiece, and the next Bond movie, which must surely be channelling tens of millions into Daniel Craig's bank account, is still $250 million.
I cannot comprehend how a Bond film costs more than a Marvel effort
The next two Marvel movies are around $200 million apiece, and the next Bond movie, which must surely be channelling tens of millions into Daniel Craig's bank account, is still $250 million.
I cannot comprehend how a Bond film costs more than a Marvel effort
Probably more practical stunt work and still a lot of CGI, Craig is on Downey Jr money for Bond, lots of different location work.
I tried rewatching Law Abiding Citizen and had to turn it off. It turns out "Angry white man murders a surprising number of people of color in his quest for revenge against the system" isn't something I can sit through anymore.
Thoughts on Falling Down?
Very different movie. Full disclosure, Falling Down is a longtime favorite of mine. Michael Douglas's character is having a breakdown - he's no super genius with a master plan. Law Abiding Citizen has direct conflict with POC throughout the movie (Jamie Foxx, the mayor, maybe more? I didn't finish my rewatch), Falling Down has three negative interactions with POC (store owner, gang, robert duvall's partner) two of which are at the beginning of his journey where Michael Douglas absolutely believes in being a racist shitbag, but part of his journey is realizing the real enemy isn't who he thought it was, culminating in him shooting someone for the first time (Duvall's partner) and realizing the enemy is himself.
I can certainly see people getting "angry white man power fantasy" from Falling Down and stopping there, but the character arc is a critique on that type of story.
I tried rewatching Law Abiding Citizen and had to turn it off. It turns out "Angry white man murders a surprising number of people of color in his quest for revenge against the system" isn't something I can sit through anymore.
See I get not wanting to finish the movie - however, I can’t remember that he even kills one person of color in the movie..
Maybe he doesn't, maybe it was more the way movie casts him as an adversary to Jamie Foxx and the mayor's office? I just remember feeling uncomfortable enough about the racial undertones to abandon my rewatch part of the way through
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I feel crazy saying this but 200 million isn't even blockbuster money these days. If you aren't dropping 300m+ before marketing it's just your average summer movie.
I never put together it was Bing Crosby, though.
Here are some others in the same kinda-sorta vein, but their quality is very inconsistent:
Darkman
Predator 2
Blade 2
Outpost (2008)
Running Man
Dredd (2012)
Predators (2010)
There's also an Aussie film called Fortress from the 1980s that I've not seen but is apparently .. something.
Mrs. McCardell was awesome:
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Next day I watched The Fly. That's how you fuckin do body horror. The last minute especially is eye watering perfection.
I hope drive ins make a come back, I miss them.
They need an assload of space to work. That isn't readily available outside of a not-yet-fully-developed suburb.
Yeah, Law Abiding Citizen.
Its a horrific movie.
Absolutely hated the ending there.
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And here I was thinking this might be a Wiseman-esque documentary about a small-scale political institution. It's still a documentary, but one focused on a night of debate called 'A Dialogue on Women's Liberation' at The Town Hall in New York in 1971. The debate is moderated by author (and wife stabber) Norman Mailer, and the speakers are Jacqueline Ceballos, Germaine Greer, Jill Johnston, and Diana Trilling.
In 1970's, second-wave feminist fashion, some of the ideas are a bit antiquated or naive (Ceballos in particular asserts that the root of the civil rights, environmentalist, and peace movements is women's lib), but they're nonetheless interesting and often presented in personal and enjoyable ways. Jill Johston's sardonic, free-associative poetry is especially fun for example. Once the speeches are finished (all of them finished with Mailer posing a question that appears to go unaddressed for the rest of the night), the floor is opened for questions, and Greer and Mailer then dominate the conversation. Some of the questions are asked by great minds like Susan Sontag, and Cynthia Ozick, who's particularly hilarious.
The entire night is bathed in heckling, laughter, and bitter disagreement; and yes, it is performative, but it has a kind of joviality that's lost in modern debate. It seems like it would have been fun being there, as the collective goal really appears to be people trying to better understand one another, Mailer included. In one moment, interrupted by members of the audience, Mailer barks: "A true perspective of the future is that it will end with nothing but assholes talking to assholes!"---different eras and all, but I'd say he ended up being partially right.
(there isn't much to say about the film itself other than that the camera work is good and the sound often unsatisfactory; I watched it with subtitles because it was difficult to parse what certain people were saying)
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Been a while since I've seen that, but isn't it the one where the vigilante imprisoned super-genius father is trying to make these points about the justice system by brutally murdering the people involved with freeing his family's blatantly-guilty murderers, is solidly on-task for murder the whole movie, and then does an enormous character 180 after accidentally blowing up a random innocent clerk (while trying to blow up the guy trying to stop him but had basically nothing to do with the murder case) and calls it "collateral damage" or some dumbass shit like that?
Cuz if that's the one, yeah, moronic ending. Basically just a completely different movie and set of characters once the car bomb thing happens, makes the movie completely fucking pointless.
IIRC, that was a case of the writers having a sudden realization that "oh shit, we can't let this guy actually win and turn out to be right."
https://youtu.be/J7YwnsYsSrw?t=40
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
This isn't true. The number of films that have cost more than $200 is still quite small. Only a half dozen or so in the last 20 years have cost $300 million or more and most of those were superhero ensemble movies with huge big name casts, Johnny Depp paycheck delivery systems or stuff that was stuck in development hell for years and years.
The next two Marvel movies are around $200 million apiece, and the next Bond movie, which must surely be channelling tens of millions into Daniel Craig's bank account, is still $250 million.
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Equalizer as well.
The Commitments! What a cracking movie
They have this whole song about how do you solve a problem like Maria.
Then they sing it again at Maria's wedding.
Apparently for the nuns the whole how do you solve a problem like Maria, the answer is dick.
That song has gotten a lot funnier at least for me.
I guess I didn't realize this came out.
Thoughts on Falling Down?
@Bogart is this because yesterday was Coogan's 55th birthday or is this just an amazing cosmic coincidence?
See I get not wanting to finish the movie - however, I can’t remember that he even kills one person of color in the movie..
Just a coincidence. I watch that video half a dozen times a year at least to instantly improve my mood. The bit where he breaks from yelling about fog lights to mime WOOOAHHHH has not yet failed to make me grin widely.
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I really liked him in Layer Cake.
I cannot comprehend how a Bond film costs more than a Marvel effort
Probably more practical stunt work and still a lot of CGI, Craig is on Downey Jr money for Bond, lots of different location work.
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I'm not sure anyone outside the UK will understand what Alan Partridge is, but maybe this clip will help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOad90BvvjM
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Very different movie. Full disclosure, Falling Down is a longtime favorite of mine. Michael Douglas's character is having a breakdown - he's no super genius with a master plan. Law Abiding Citizen has direct conflict with POC throughout the movie (Jamie Foxx, the mayor, maybe more? I didn't finish my rewatch), Falling Down has three negative interactions with POC (store owner, gang, robert duvall's partner) two of which are at the beginning of his journey where Michael Douglas absolutely believes in being a racist shitbag, but part of his journey is realizing the real enemy isn't who he thought it was, culminating in him shooting someone for the first time (Duvall's partner) and realizing the enemy is himself.
I can certainly see people getting "angry white man power fantasy" from Falling Down and stopping there, but the character arc is a critique on that type of story.
It still holds up, and Sally Phillips is, then and now, an insanely attractive lady
Maybe he doesn't, maybe it was more the way movie casts him as an adversary to Jamie Foxx and the mayor's office? I just remember feeling uncomfortable enough about the racial undertones to abandon my rewatch part of the way through