Fuck, my employer has hosted a course on face profiling. So fucking disappointing. Gonna go and pick a fight after I've talked with my union rep.
What does this mean?
I THINK it's bullshit like "You have these facial features therefore you have these personality traits that we like. This other person has these other facial features and therefore has perverse and degenerate personality flaws."
Ah, yes. The four personality types.
How is it anything but blatant racism?
I mean, I know y'all don't subscribe to it. But how do those that do even pretend?
Fuck, my employer has hosted a course on face profiling. So fucking disappointing. Gonna go and pick a fight after I've talked with my union rep.
What does this mean?
I THINK it's bullshit like "You have these facial features therefore you have these personality traits that we like. This other person has these other facial features and therefore has perverse and degenerate personality flaws."
Ah, yes. The four personality types.
How is it anything but blatant racism?
I mean, I know y'all don't subscribe to it. But how do those that do even pretend?
Edit: The image is satire right?
"Algorithms can't be racist."
Same dumb shit people always say. Because of course, the person programming the algorithm couldn't possibly encode their own biases.
So my ex boss is acting like my boss still and just threatened that my job may be on the line if I don't work all day today to get the company tax accountant what he needs.
I'm an engineer, I was not hired to do the company books for the first six months of last year when I wasn't employed by this company. I am also not trained in this accounting software.
As best as I can tell not all of the bills, payroll, and invoices were reconciled for the first 6 months.
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Sounds like something to reply to with your actual boss CC'd asking why they are asking someone who isn't under their management or department to perform tasks that aren't part of their job description.
So my ex boss is acting like my boss still and just threatened that my job may be on the line if I don't work all day today to get the company tax accountant what he needs.
I'm an engineer, I was not hired to do the company books for the first six months of last year when I wasn't employed by this company. I am also not trained in this accounting software.
As best as I can tell not all of the bills, payroll, and invoices were reconciled for the first 6 months.
Weee
Sounds like something to reply to with your actual boss CC'd asking why they are asking someone who isn't under their management or department to perform tasks that aren't part of their job description.
Or "To confirm, you'd like me to focus on this instead of my current priority of X - (Boss), can you advise?"
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
@expendable has the right of it, to the T. It's insane. The example that was shared on our intranet was an overview of what different shapes of ears could tell you about someone's character. Like... WHAT. A cursory Duckduckgo-search reveals detailed descriptions of how your head shape determines how """"analytical"""" you are and somehow all the examples are of white people. Like, no one appears to be saying the quiet part out loud.
I fully intend to make someone say the quiet part out loud and see if we can get a course on how to prevent racial profiling on the agenda.
@expendable has the right of it, to the T. It's insane. The example that was shared on our intranet was an overview of what different shapes of ears could tell you about someone's character. Like... WHAT. A cursory Duckduckgo-search reveals detailed descriptions of how your head shape determines how """"analytical"""" you are and somehow all the examples are of white people. Like, no one appears to be saying the quiet part out loud.
I fully intend to make someone say the quiet part out loud and see if we can get a course on how to prevent racial profiling on the agenda.
If you lose an ear in an accident, then logically, your personality would change right.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
Yeah its like "Hey I know one of the benefits of WFH is not having to drive and hour plus each way in traffic and pay for parking, but what if instead we pushed you to spend that time learning new skills for you to do work with and also you pay for it?"
What if someone lives close to work? Do they need to spend less time? Or were they already expected to spend unpaid time developing themselves, compared to the ones commuting?
I had a constructive heart to heart wherein I explained that reports can not be more accurate than the data provided, nor can they be completed prior it said data being provided. Me being the guy that understands 'spreadsheets' does not in fact empower me to violate the laws of entropy or space-time.
The learning I have taken from this is that things that are obvious to me, such as the above, are not always obvious to others, and when they ask "can you fix it?" after I've told them that the data has simply not been provided, they're interacting with technology as magic.
You had this coming. Most of the stuff spreadsheet people do looks like magic to the uninitiated, now you're being asked to put your mana where your mouth is.
I brought this on myself with formatting tricks and CONCATENATE.
I'm really coming to understand all that stuff in The Wizard of Earthsea about the wisdom of silence and the power of choosing not to do magic.
Or at least not admitting to anyone that you did it, Ogion. You sly bastard.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
That feels like a huge legal liability on their end. They can't require you to do stuff for the organization and then not pay you as far as I understand it. The exempt employees would get screwed, but I just assume they are being screwed over already to the point that it wouldn't make a difference.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
Yeah its like "Hey I know one of the benefits of WFH is not having to drive and hour plus each way in traffic and pay for parking, but what if instead we pushed you to spend that time learning new skills for you to do work with and also you pay for it?"
Maybe fuck all the way off?
If you ain't gettin paid for the time then they can fuck off. Professional development time should be during salaried/wage time, that's why it's called PROFESSIONAL development.
I had a constructive heart to heart wherein I explained that reports can not be more accurate than the data provided, nor can they be completed prior it said data being provided. Me being the guy that understands 'spreadsheets' does not in fact empower me to violate the laws of entropy or space-time.
The learning I have taken from this is that things that are obvious to me, such as the above, are not always obvious to others, and when they ask "can you fix it?" after I've told them that the data has simply not been provided, they're interacting with technology as magic.
You had this coming. Most of the stuff spreadsheet people do looks like magic to the uninitiated, now you're being asked to put your mana where your mouth is.
I brought this on myself with formatting tricks and CONCATENATE.
I'm really coming to understand all that stuff in The Wizard of Earthsea about the wisdom of silence and the power of choosing not to do magic.
Or at least not admitting to anyone that you did it, Ogion. You sly bastard.
It isn't even coming from tech bros, this is full on "inspired by an ages old Chinese tradition" from the usual suspects of that kind of mystical hogwash.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Ask them if that means they'll be accepting liability for accidents that occur on work commutes and if those with shorter commutes have to contribute the same. If there determining that it's part of the workday and course and scope of work, it opens up a huge amount of liability and potential workers comp
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
Yeah its like "Hey I know one of the benefits of WFH is not having to drive and hour plus each way in traffic and pay for parking, but what if instead we pushed you to spend that time learning new skills for you to do work with and also you pay for it?"
Maybe fuck all the way off?
So you admit all the commuting time was work and you'll be compensating me with back pay?
I know no work place is great but sometimes I hear about the shit the corporate world does or tries to get done wrt employees and it makes me glad that I work where I do.
I say that now but I know we've gotten a consultant for future teleworking policies so it will be...interesting...to see what they come up with.
I know no work place is great but sometimes I hear about the shit the corporate world does or tries to get done wrt employees and it makes me glad that I work where I do.
I say that now but I know we've gotten a consultant for future teleworking policies so it will be...interesting...to see what they come up with.
I work for a non-profit technically!
And this is just an idea project, I don't think management would ever sign off on it for the reasons stated.
I know no work place is great but sometimes I hear about the shit the corporate world does or tries to get done wrt employees and it makes me glad that I work where I do.
I say that now but I know we've gotten a consultant for future teleworking policies so it will be...interesting...to see what they come up with.
I work for a non-profit technically!
And this is just an idea project, I don't think management would ever sign off on it for the reasons stated.
Don't get me wrong, I've definitely worked on stuff behind the scenes where we throw ideas around and some are controversial. But we also don't go much more forward with those for obvious reasons.
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My schedule at work has been in shambles over the last year between the pandemic and my wife's stuff. Just found out her disability interview got moved up to next week, and I've now been invited to it. Presumably because I'm listed as a caretaker. Had to tell my boss who just shifted jobs around and said "you're cool, already marked you out that day."
The company has been shit for a good chunk of the year, but he's been great. Glad for that.
I got picked to be part of a group to evaluate proposals for continuing remote work and moving into a potential hybrid model. One of the suggestions is that since people don't have to commute anymore, that extra 1-2 hours a day can be spent on unpaid professional development for the good of the org.
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
Yeah its like "Hey I know one of the benefits of WFH is not having to drive and hour plus each way in traffic and pay for parking, but what if instead we pushed you to spend that time learning new skills for you to do work with and also you pay for it?"
Maybe fuck all the way off?
So you admit all the commuting time was work and you'll be compensating me with back pay?
Wow. Rephrasing that as a question we should maybe ask legal before we move forward with this sounds like the most surefire way to get this idea buried dead in the ground.
i work for a not for profit and management still wants to exploit labor as much as possible.
wfh is still seen as a privilege and only permitted because the company sees value in it
capitalism is an infectious disease
It's true! Sometimes I feel like our business office is even more draconian than most for-profit businesses, they just replace "increase stockholder value" with "be a good steward of taxpayer money."
Edit: wait, no, "taxpayer dollars." Why do fuckin' money people always refer to money as "dollars?" It makes me think they keep the entire library budget in a Scrooge McDuck vault and just roll around in it until we spend it all on books and crafting supplies.
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i work for a not for profit and management still wants to exploit labor as much as possible.
wfh is still seen as a privilege and only permitted because the company sees value in it
capitalism is an infectious disease
It's true! Sometimes I feel like our business office is even more draconian than most for-profit businesses, they just replace "increase stockholder value" with "be a good steward of taxpayer money."
Edit: wait, no, "taxpayer dollars." Why do fuckin' money people always refer to money as "dollars?" It makes me think they keep the entire library budget in a Scrooge McDuck vault and just roll around in it until we spend it all on books and crafting supplies.
it's easier to pretend something is real if you refer to it as a physical object
i work for a not for profit and management still wants to exploit labor as much as possible.
wfh is still seen as a privilege and only permitted because the company sees value in it
capitalism is an infectious disease
It's true! Sometimes I feel like our business office is even more draconian than most for-profit businesses, they just replace "increase stockholder value" with "be a good steward of taxpayer money."
Edit: wait, no, "taxpayer dollars." Why do fuckin' money people always refer to money as "dollars?" It makes me think they keep the entire library budget in a Scrooge McDuck vault and just roll around in it until we spend it all on books and crafting supplies.
Look here buster, if you don't synergize your upward revenue stream dynamics, we're going to upscale diversify flow your compensatory deliberations.
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How is it anything but blatant racism?
I mean, I know y'all don't subscribe to it. But how do those that do even pretend?
Edit: The image is satire right?
"Algorithms can't be racist."
Same dumb shit people always say. Because of course, the person programming the algorithm couldn't possibly encode their own biases.
Sounds like something to reply to with your actual boss CC'd asking why they are asking someone who isn't under their management or department to perform tasks that aren't part of their job description.
Or "To confirm, you'd like me to focus on this instead of my current priority of X - (Boss), can you advise?"
I hate this idea so much oh my god. I need to figure out a way to give this a bad review without it looking like I am biased.
I fully intend to make someone say the quiet part out loud and see if we can get a course on how to prevent racial profiling on the agenda.
Pretty sure it's going to say ...
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If you lose an ear in an accident, then logically, your personality would change right.
Are they trying to say that reason is a +1 to the pro list? Because yeah, the organization may be improved by people having more time to screw around with whatever or studying for a new cert or whatever.
But to make that required and not pay for it? They can eat shit.
Yeah its like "Hey I know one of the benefits of WFH is not having to drive and hour plus each way in traffic and pay for parking, but what if instead we pushed you to spend that time learning new skills for you to do work with and also you pay for it?"
Maybe fuck all the way off?
I brought this on myself with formatting tricks and CONCATENATE.
I'm really coming to understand all that stuff in The Wizard of Earthsea about the wisdom of silence and the power of choosing not to do magic.
Or at least not admitting to anyone that you did it, Ogion. You sly bastard.
That feels like a huge legal liability on their end. They can't require you to do stuff for the organization and then not pay you as far as I understand it. The exempt employees would get screwed, but I just assume they are being screwed over already to the point that it wouldn't make a difference.
If you ain't gettin paid for the time then they can fuck off. Professional development time should be during salaried/wage time, that's why it's called PROFESSIONAL development.
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Ask them if that means they'll be accepting liability for accidents that occur on work commutes and if those with shorter commutes have to contribute the same. If there determining that it's part of the workday and course and scope of work, it opens up a huge amount of liability and potential workers comp
So you admit all the commuting time was work and you'll be compensating me with back pay?
I say that now but I know we've gotten a consultant for future teleworking policies so it will be...interesting...to see what they come up with.
I work for a non-profit technically!
And this is just an idea project, I don't think management would ever sign off on it for the reasons stated.
Don't get me wrong, I've definitely worked on stuff behind the scenes where we throw ideas around and some are controversial. But we also don't go much more forward with those for obvious reasons.
The company has been shit for a good chunk of the year, but he's been great. Glad for that.
wfh is still seen as a privilege and only permitted because the company sees value in it
capitalism is an infectious disease
Wow. Rephrasing that as a question we should maybe ask legal before we move forward with this sounds like the most surefire way to get this idea buried dead in the ground.
Also my boss's boss: "I need you to fix this problem RIGHT NOW, it's fine if you minimally test it."
I'm beginning to think quality isn't a priority around here. 🤔
It's true! Sometimes I feel like our business office is even more draconian than most for-profit businesses, they just replace "increase stockholder value" with "be a good steward of taxpayer money."
Edit: wait, no, "taxpayer dollars." Why do fuckin' money people always refer to money as "dollars?" It makes me think they keep the entire library budget in a Scrooge McDuck vault and just roll around in it until we spend it all on books and crafting supplies.
Nah, its totally internally consistent. They just expect 100% quality all the time. You don't need to test if you do it right the first time.
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it's easier to pretend something is real if you refer to it as a physical object
Look here buster, if you don't synergize your upward revenue stream dynamics, we're going to upscale diversify flow your compensatory deliberations.
Guess how many times i saw this repeat since this post. Guess.
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