I also consider everyone who uses it weak minded. Do you really need a special piece of software to ignore someone? Just scroll past their posts! I'm already seeing people saying "oh wow I am totally going to ignore you dude" and I think it's silly. Sure it could be used for genuine trolls, but it's more likely to be used to ignore people who are simply saying things that you don't want to hear, and I think that weakens the mind and the community.
Does anyone have any strong feelings about the ignore function either way?
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I know I'm not going to use it myself because, as you say, it's easy enough just to scroll past parts of the conversation I'm not following. Plus, that way I know that part of the conversation is happening.
I also have a suspicion that it'll just fuel the trolls, either because they'll be ignoring anyone who tells them to shut up, or anyone who might tell them to shut up is ignoring them. They'll just rant away in their own echo chamber.
Weakens the mind and the community? You've got a flair for the overdramatic sometimes, CT.
Honestly, I like it. I use it for two particular people who tend to post just completely idiotic drivel, who are quite simply trolls. It isn't like I can't see that they've posted, and it isn't like I can't read their messages if I so choose (all I have to do is click "view post"), but this way I don't have to scroll through a bunch of verbal diarrhea all the time.
Were it to be disabled, I probably wouldn't cry, but I think it certainly has its uses. There are a number of members of this forum who certainly deserve to be ignored, and this is a good way to cut down on the constant whining about "oh god please ban this dumbass he is a dumbass".
disagree. Most trolls, when they don't get the feedback they are looking for (aka attention) tend to shut up and look for greener pastures.
Take the example of a guy like theSAVED who, when he started here basically said everything wrong possible for this form. He was banned and when he came back he is actually improving his posts and can actually contribute here and there. People still shit on him, but outright ignoring him that improvement would have never been seen.
that motherfucker is nothing but a troll, and he admits as much
so fuck it, I don't want to read his shit, and so I've got this handy little utility where I don't have to, but still have the option to should I want to give him another shot.
This basically just boils down to the fact that im too lazy to use a button to ignore someone when I can just scroll right past.
see, that's why I like the feature.
It doesn't make their posts completely disappear, it just sort of "minimizes" them. Auto-scroll-past. With a button to reveal them if you so choose.
using the ignore list, could the community as a whole ignore certain users, effectively causing the same effect as SA's Hellbans?
We need this feature.
I haven't tried using it though.
Edit: Huh, trying it now. It's not like the person becomes invisible; you still know they're posting, just not what every time.
It seems like a useful tool, however distasteful it might be in a perfect world.
The only reason I used it is if one of the regulars starts sounding like a broken record and has nothing to contribute to me as a poster.
I ended up un-ignoring the people afterwards, feeling rather petty and realizing that I could simply ignore them by choice.
As such, I don't care either way.
Again, I like the feature, but I wouldn't be upset to see it go.
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I ignored Marathon only for this example.
The ignore function is irreplaceable when you don't wish to bother a Mod with a "minor issue." Case in point, I'm one of those silly people who is offended by the rampant, nonchalant use of the word faggot. Rather than bother a mod (and let's be honest here nothing is going to change on that policy), I can effectively mute the people who can't type more than a line without using the word as if it were punctuation.
The argument of the forums falling into despair and people only talking to who they choose to is bit far fetched. Sure the possibility of abuse exists, but as a whole, forumers exhibit the intelligence required to keep it in check.
I don't see myself using ignore here because if someone tried that here they'd get banned long before I got fed up.
Hey, has Rankenphile commented here yet? He's got some good opinions.
I'd personally like to see it go.
Honestly, I think the ketchem ash thread proved exactly why the community shouldn't have the ignore option.
I really think the ignore function could potentially cause seriously derail or destroy the debate subforum. Being able to ignore anyone with an opposing viewpoint defeats the whole purpose that forum.
And I agree with badman: if you despise certain people's use of language that the admins like to turn a blind eye to, then you can ignore them and you don't have to read their crap anymore. So what if it shows up in quotes? Then at least you can follow the conversation, but you'll miss a majority of their posts.
And people were ignoring with a Firefox extension on the previous forums.
However people that do publicly announce who is going on their ignore are cunts.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Essentially, if you are a long-time forumer and you use the ignore function, you're not using it lightly.
So put hte ignore button into use.
Then run a script against the database for all users who have 10+ ignores by forumers who have been with the PA forums since a certain time (2 years).
That will indicate potential "problem" users that need to be checked out by a mod and possibly deleted.