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    Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hmm... they really do. But I could never afford one. I'm the worst money maker. So here is the deal pip. I can Resub, and assign skill points to put myself in a drake. If i go up the caldari line for ratting I'll be able to make silly amounts of money yes?

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    ukiyo eukiyo e Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hmm... they really do. But I could never afford one. I'm the worst money maker. So here is the deal pip. I can Resub, and assign skill points to put myself in a drake. If i go up the caldari line for ratting I'll be able to make silly amounts of money yes?

    The days of "silly money" are over, but you can still make decent isk ratting in a drake. The ishtar is a good PVE boat too, though. The plentiful high and mid utility slots with an active armor tank make it a great ship for roaming around to find plexes.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Hmm... they really do. But I could never afford one. I'm the worst money maker. So here is the deal pip. I can Resub, and assign skill points to put myself in a drake. If i go up the caldari line for ratting I'll be able to make silly amounts of money yes?

    literally no need

    if you have t2 sentries, you can take your ishtar and warp to a sanctum at 50km, unload your sentries and go afk

    voila you just cleared a sanctum

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    Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    welp, looks like I'll assign my ~1m skillpoints in to sentries then.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    hurray I finally got my goon stuff registered.

    I can join mumble and be awesome now

    bow before me

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    Just Some DudeJust Some Dude Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Ishtar is the third best anomaly boat behind the Tengu and a carrier. It's also the best for laziness.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
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    JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Welp, I'm in a friends house for the next while with no constant access to internet, so I'll get to change my skills every now and then (yay for VNC to a PC that has EVE on it)

    I'll be back on regularly in around 2 weeks time : (

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    That article is extremely well written but his final paragraph basically ruins it.

    He has all the right information with a completely uncalled for conclusion.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    What? No. It is nowhere near extremely well written. It's puerile garbage.

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    Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    k, I resubbed and I'm updating. Lets see what kind of monies I got where my clones are ETC.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm old fashioned and think using ulterior channels to exploit your way to supremacy in a game and then bragging about it doesn't have a whole lot of social value.

    The article is MOSTLY an indictment of the meta game. It unfairly uses the actual happenings within the game client as backgrounding, but his primary beef is with the people who engage in the meta game in patently dishonest ways.

    EVE soap operas are pretty funny, but it's not funny when mal adjusted idgets base their lives on it. That's their choice though. The article is wrong to attack them personally for it, but it's not like the entire article is a lie.

    At worst as an apologist you could make the case that "its part of the game". His article is based on the idea that it shouldn't be.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    I..don't even know what you mean by "ulterior channels". It's like you made up a phrase that you thought sounded kind of cool. CCP has blatantly given the thumbs up to scamming in game. I don't see how there's anything "ulterior" (however you mean it in this case) about following the rules of the game to destroy someone's assets or scam assets from them. Saying it shouldn't be part of the game is like saying you don't think field goals should be part of football. Ok? What am I supposed to do with such a stupid opinion other than laugh at it? If you don't like the rules of a game, there are plenty of other games for you to play.

    And it is written terribly. There's just no other way to put it. Setting aside what he's saying, his writing is crap.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    is that because you disagree with him

    that would be a pretty good reason

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    Is what because I disagree with him? You're being terribly vague.

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    ReginaldReginald When I am Pres., I will create the Department of ______Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Dru, thanks for bringing puerile back into my curmudgeon vocab dictionary. I haven't used that word in a long while. It's going to pair quite well with pedantic.

    I'm not being sarcastic, btw. I love the word. I also love shield tanking with a Drake.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    that his writing is terrible

    and as I tried to state subtly but you failed to compute: the argument that CCP supports this and that it is "part of the game" is completely missing the point of the article and I think also misses the point of editorializing

    somebody used a game you've been playing for 5 seconds as an example to make a social point, and for it he is terrible

    thats great

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2011
    I'm looking forward to being able to buy a Drake. And in about 2 weeks I should be able to fit t2 heavy launchers on it.

    edit: Jasc, as I said his writing is terrible regardless of what the article is about. The quality of writing in a piece is separate from what the piece is actually saying. He could be saying something I agree with and it would still be terribly written. There are high schoolers who can write better than him.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    nope, jasc, that's bad writing

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    that dude hates mittens

    btw mittens didn't actually do anything wrong, and his and vile rat's ultimate goal is to make nullsec not fucking awful compared to empire

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    also the fact that mittens winning space pissed off a bunch of nerds owns

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Is somebody arguing for honor in spaceships? Because that's hilarious.

    Also I hope Dust 514 has scamming

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Weaver wrote: »
    Is somebody arguing for honor in spaceships? Because that's hilarious.

    Also I hope Dust 514 has scamming

    there will be orbital bombardment from ships in eve

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I love mittens

    also can we talk about how DARIUS JOHNSON wants to end botting in eve

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    he banned a shitload of mining bots

    jokes on ccp when it destroys the fucking market

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    runaway_pancakerunaway_pancake Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Veretas wrote: »
    I love mittens

    also can we talk about how DARIUS JOHNSON wants to end botting in eve
    People always say you CCP shouldn't try to stop botting because it's critical to the economy in terms of minerals and such. But I would unironically love it if mineral prices inflated to the point that it actually means something to lose ships again.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Veretas wrote: »
    I love mittens

    also can we talk about how DARIUS JOHNSON wants to end botting in eve
    People always say you CCP shouldn't try to stop botting because it's critical to the economy in terms of minerals and such. But I would unironically love it if mineral prices inflated to the point that it actually means something to lose ships again.

    join an alliance that doesn't hold tech moons or isn't russian and say that again

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    There is no way they can leave the economy to the players 100% with the way things currently are.

    Hell they should never do it.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    remember when ccp wanted to reduce deflation

    then they released the drone regions

    I'd trust the idiot masses over ccp stabilize the economy

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    is a game which measures ISK in the billions really trying to discourage deflation?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    billions heh

    also ccp is really bad at making their own game

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    IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Tell me about making video games Pip.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Isoldae wrote: »
    Tell me about making video games Pip.

    don't do what ccp did

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    Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Rofl, good ole eve, log in and I'm in the ombil ring because a friend of mine is the ceo of a corp that runs it and I was helping him organize ops during the goonfleet regroup. I decide since the entire alliance has me blue I'm cool to fly to jita. Nope 3 gates out I get podded and upon mentioning to the guy who podded me that he just shot down a blue, let alone a blue who has been friends with his ceo for 15 years he bans me from his coalition chat.

    Good ole eve. Ill have to go back and destroy them later.

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    IsoldaeIsoldae Hats Off To JigglypuffRegistered User regular
    edited May 2011
    When do we murder things as a corp?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    Isoldae wrote: »
    When do we murder things as a corp?

    tomorrow

    check the forums

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    I keep orbiting between wanting to resub and wanting to forget this thread exists.

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    me too hi5

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    hey veretas and lawinator

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    MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited May 2011
    sup pip

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