Ravnica Resurgence: Magic the Gathering

Big Red Tie

i totally agree with you
we are on the same side here

nightmarenny

Big Red Tie wrote:

land, birds of paradise
land, kodama's reach
land, bloodbraid elf

mmmmm

also legacy is more coin flippy than like standard. and definitely more than a new set, which i was just like ? at

Then a Thoctar and then a Drumhunter and my "standard opening is complete. The Sheperd does sound pretty good though.

Big Red Tie

i do not approve of lifegain in big guys deck

it's not manly

B.C.

The lifegain Mythic in Dark Ascension is awful in everything but commander.
And even there it is super questionable.

nightmarenny

Why don't I already have that Elf? He is great.

Airking850

I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

nightmarenny

nightmarenny wrote:

The Deck I'm currently using

1x Kalonian Behemoth
1x Godsire
2x Spearbreaker behemoth
1x Bull Cerodon
1x Spellbreaker Behemoth
1x Regal Force
2x Mosstodon
1x Beacon Behemoth
4x Woolly Thoctar
2x Pale Recluse
3x Drumhunter
1x Naya battlemage
2x Deadly recluse
2x Wild nacatl
1x Qasili Pridemaster
1x Elvish Visionary
2x druid of Anima
4x gift of the Gargantuan
3x Naturalize
1x Banefire
1x Blaze
3x Mighty Emergence
2x Rampant Growth
2x Titanic Ultimatum
1x Mayaels Aria
1x Sigal of the Nayan Gods
2x Naya Panorama
2x Jungle Shrine
4x Mountain
4x Plains
10x Forest

The Deck I plan on making

2x Godsire
2x Spearbreaker behemoth
2x Mosstodon
2x Beacon Behemoth
4x Woolly Thoctar
3x Drumhunter
4x Deadly recluse
3x Qasili Pridemaster
4x Birds of Paradise
3x gift of the Gargantuan
2x Banefire
2x Mighty Emergence
2x Rampant Growth
2x Titanic Ultimatum
3x Mayaels Aria
2x Naya Panorama
2x Jungle Shrine
4x Mountain
4x Plains
8x Forest

Any advise?

My current deck and what I was going for if you wanna give some advise B.

Though I haven't yet taken everybody else's advice into account.

Big Red Tie

bloodbraid elf has got them tittays

also take out deadly recluse, there's definitely a better option somewhere

drp527

maybe some Path to Exiles? it's in color and is a pretty great answer to just about anything

edit: or Vexing Shusher or something if counters are used a lot?

B.C.

Airking850 wrote:

I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

Big Red Tie

start replacing those common 5 power guys with cheap rares like this

also cool:

+ bloodbraid elf

though you don't want to hit it with the elf itself, just a cool way to reuse the cascade if the elf is already in play

drp527

Wild Nacatl might be a good early-game play, though I guess it's competing with Birds as a one-drop

Airking850

Specific advice: You're probably going to want to run three or four more land, at least. Birds and Rampant Growth and Kodama's Reach are good for getting mana quickly sometimes but you're going to be mulliganing a ton of zero- and one-land hands. And worse, you're going to end up keeping a ton of one-land hands with Birds and getting your Birds lightning bolted and having your whole game plan fall to pieces.

More general, related advice: When deckbuilding, it's important not to focus exclusively on best-case scenarios, which I get the sense is the case when you said that your "standard opening" involves a turn one birds of paradise. Openings like turn one birds turn two Thoctar are a beatdown, but how often will that happen? (given that you'd need a hand with one of 8 forests, one of 8 plains/mountains, a Birds and a Thoctar: very little, sadly).

Airking850

B.C. wrote:

Airking850 wrote:

I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

This is all true. But then, a lot of it is even true-er in Legacy and Yost still walked away with a giant cheque. Magic is a mysterious game.

Airking850

Wild Nacatl is super sexy in legacy zoo decks, but in a deck with 4 plains and 4 mountains it won't be near as impressive. And in a deck that wins with a stampede of titanic ultimatum'd dudes, getting two damage out of an ahead-of-the-curve 2/2 isn't going to make or break any games.

Airking850

Ok now I'm going to stop being a crazy person and go to bed.

nightmarenny

By standard opening I don't mean those exact steps. To me the first goal of my deck(precluding I see the chance for an early win) is to get out a power 5 creature and a Drumhunter. I get enough attacking and defending power that I get a turn or two I don't have to worry about the opponent will I out draw him and start pumping out as many creatures as my mana allows.

The mana thing. I've heard that quite a lot but I've had very little trouble with land. I'll change it if that changes but I'm feeling pretty comfortable.

B.C.

Airking850 wrote:

B.C. wrote:

Airking850 wrote:

I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

This is all true. But then, a lot of it is even true-er in Legacy and Yost still walked away with a giant cheque. Magic is a mysterious game.

The only life-gain card in the entire top 8 that Yost won was Zuran Orb in the lands list.

Big Red Tie

oh i didnt even look at your land base
add 2-3 more, and maybe switch panoramas for something else better and more colorful

nightmarenny

Hm but then I haven't taken two mana out. I'll leave those in.

Big Red Tie

i mean
2-3 more lands
and switch panoramas for different lands that are better. because panoramas are pretty meh

TheLawinator

I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

Big Red Tie

i kind of want to go to the prerelease + someone i know is having a magic party

but it would be awkward bc none of them are like, really people i talk to

i wish i had someone irl to play magic with

B.C.

TheLawinator wrote:

I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

Go.
Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

skettios

I'm playing mtg toniiiiiight
woooo

I want the release promo card

skettios

B.C. wrote:

TheLawinator wrote:

I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

Go.
Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

I enjoy sealed
Takes the pressure away from having to pick things as they come by
So much strategy involved in drafting. Need to get better at it though :?

Big Red Tie

i hate sealed because my sealed luck is fucking terrible

whereas in draft i can control the outcome of my card pool

drp527

I like sealed better because I get what I get, and I don't have to pass something to someone else just because it won't help me do better

in draft I often find myself having to pick between something I want outside of the tournament and something that is significantly less rare/useful but is much better for the deck that's taking shape

Big Red Tie

i love hatedrafting.

SLyM

I hate lovedrafting

Bucketman

B.C. wrote:

TheLawinator wrote:

I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

Go.
Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

Seriously, prerelease sealed is my favorite game type.

ChicoBlue

Pfff! Nobody even cares about Magic anymore.

Why don't you have any Pokemon cards? JEEZ!

That was what happened to me at school when I brought my Magic cards.

PiptheFair

Big Red Tie wrote:

i hate sealed because my sealed luck is fucking terrible

whereas in draft i can control the outcome of my card pool

same

Big Red Tie wrote:

i love hatedrafting.

also same

BugBoy

I played sealed prerelease for one of the kamigawa sets

I pulled a good card and immediately traded it for a lousy one

alas, youth

Big Red Tie

oh no pip is agreeing with me blurgghhh

PiptheFair

welcome to shit town

Butler For Life #1

BugBoy wrote:

I played sealed prerelease for one of the kamigawa sets

I pulled a good card and immediately traded it for a lousy one

alas, youth

I pulled one awesome blue card that I heard was great and a bunch of crappy other blue cards

so naturally I went blue

BugBoy

I don't remember what I went with

all I remember is trading away this for this

drp527

oh man Iname as One

I remember pulling him in a pack and being so happy because it cost a lot and was in two colors and had two other related rares clearly it had to be good

Antimatter

i don't understand sealed at all

how do you handle mana