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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i totally agree with you
    we are on the same side here

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    land, birds of paradise
    land, kodama's reach
    land, bloodbraid elf

    mmmmm

    also legacy is more coin flippy than like standard. and definitely more than a new set, which i was just like ? at

    Then a Thoctar and then a Drumhunter and my "standard opening is complete. The Sheperd does sound pretty good though.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i do not approve of lifegain in big guys deck

    it's not manly

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    B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    The lifegain Mythic in Dark Ascension is awful in everything but commander.
    And even there it is super questionable.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Why don't I already have that Elf? He is great.

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    Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

    this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    The Deck I'm currently using
    1x Kalonian Behemoth
    1x Godsire
    2x Spearbreaker behemoth
    1x Bull Cerodon
    1x Spellbreaker Behemoth
    1x Regal Force
    2x Mosstodon
    1x Beacon Behemoth
    4x Woolly Thoctar
    2x Pale Recluse
    3x Drumhunter
    1x Naya battlemage
    2x Deadly recluse
    2x Wild nacatl
    1x Qasili Pridemaster
    1x Elvish Visionary
    2x druid of Anima
    4x gift of the Gargantuan
    3x Naturalize
    1x Banefire
    1x Blaze
    3x Mighty Emergence
    2x Rampant Growth
    2x Titanic Ultimatum
    1x Mayaels Aria
    1x Sigal of the Nayan Gods
    2x Naya Panorama
    2x Jungle Shrine
    4x Mountain
    4x Plains
    10x Forest

    The Deck I plan on making
    2x Godsire
    2x Spearbreaker behemoth
    2x Mosstodon
    2x Beacon Behemoth
    4x Woolly Thoctar
    3x Drumhunter
    4x Deadly recluse
    3x Qasili Pridemaster
    4x Birds of Paradise
    3x gift of the Gargantuan
    2x Banefire
    2x Mighty Emergence
    2x Rampant Growth
    2x Titanic Ultimatum
    3x Mayaels Aria
    2x Naya Panorama
    2x Jungle Shrine
    4x Mountain
    4x Plains
    8x Forest

    Any advise?

    My current deck and what I was going for if you wanna give some advise B.

    Though I haven't yet taken everybody else's advice into account.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    bloodbraid elf has got them tittays

    also take out deadly recluse, there's definitely a better option somewhere

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    maybe some Path to Exiles? it's in color and is a pretty great answer to just about anything

    edit: or Vexing Shusher or something if counters are used a lot?

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    B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    Airking850 wrote:
    I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

    this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

    You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

    Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    start replacing those common 5 power guys with cheap rares like this
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    also cool:
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    110.jpg + bloodbraid elf

    though you don't want to hit it with the elf itself, just a cool way to reuse the cascade if the elf is already in play

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    Wild Nacatl might be a good early-game play, though I guess it's competing with Birds as a one-drop

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    Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    Specific advice: You're probably going to want to run three or four more land, at least. Birds and Rampant Growth and Kodama's Reach are good for getting mana quickly sometimes but you're going to be mulliganing a ton of zero- and one-land hands. And worse, you're going to end up keeping a ton of one-land hands with Birds and getting your Birds lightning bolted and having your whole game plan fall to pieces.

    More general, related advice: When deckbuilding, it's important not to focus exclusively on best-case scenarios, which I get the sense is the case when you said that your "standard opening" involves a turn one birds of paradise. Openings like turn one birds turn two Thoctar are a beatdown, but how often will that happen? (given that you'd need a hand with one of 8 forests, one of 8 plains/mountains, a Birds and a Thoctar: very little, sadly).

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    Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    B.C. wrote:
    Airking850 wrote:
    I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

    this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

    You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

    Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

    This is all true. But then, a lot of it is even true-er in Legacy and Yost still walked away with a giant cheque. Magic is a mysterious game.

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    Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    Wild Nacatl is super sexy in legacy zoo decks, but in a deck with 4 plains and 4 mountains it won't be near as impressive. And in a deck that wins with a stampede of titanic ultimatum'd dudes, getting two damage out of an ahead-of-the-curve 2/2 isn't going to make or break any games.

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    Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    Ok now I'm going to stop being a crazy person and go to bed.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    By standard opening I don't mean those exact steps. To me the first goal of my deck(precluding I see the chance for an early win) is to get out a power 5 creature and a Drumhunter. I get enough attacking and defending power that I get a turn or two I don't have to worry about the opponent will I out draw him and start pumping out as many creatures as my mana allows.

    The mana thing. I've heard that quite a lot but I've had very little trouble with land. I'll change it if that changes but I'm feeling pretty comfortable.

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    B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    Airking850 wrote:
    B.C. wrote:
    Airking850 wrote:
    I've been wondering about mono-red burn in Modern

    this is a format where your opponent is playing a full turn behind schedule, or they're shocking themselves constantly. Is Fireblast that important? (I'm guessing it must be)

    You're better off playing Affinity. You get to play Cranial plating+Steel Shaper's Gift. You also get Shrapnel Blast and Galvanic Blast.

    Burn in modern is actually just awful. Jund and Melira are both running Kitchen Finks (Which essentially autoscoops you), Martyr of Sands is an actual deck. Zoo is running Lightning Helix+Snapcaster mage (that and they can just kill you faster). Splinter Twin and Storm Combo kill you faster.

    This is all true. But then, a lot of it is even true-er in Legacy and Yost still walked away with a giant cheque. Magic is a mysterious game.

    The only life-gain card in the entire top 8 that Yost won was Zuran Orb in the lands list.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited January 2012
    oh i didnt even look at your land base
    add 2-3 more, and maybe switch panoramas for something else better and more colorful

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Hm but then I haven't taken two mana out. I'll leave those in.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i mean
    2-3 more lands
    and switch panoramas for different lands that are better. because panoramas are pretty meh

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i kind of want to go to the prerelease + someone i know is having a magic party

    but it would be awkward bc none of them are like, really people i talk to

    i wish i had someone irl to play magic with

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    B.C.B.C. is a bee! remember me?Registered User regular
    I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

    Go.
    Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
    All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

    It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

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    skettiosskettios Enchanted ForestRegistered User regular
    I'm playing mtg toniiiiiight
    woooo

    I want the release promo card
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    skettiosskettios Enchanted ForestRegistered User regular
    B.C. wrote:
    I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

    Go.
    Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
    All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

    It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

    I enjoy sealed
    Takes the pressure away from having to pick things as they come by
    So much strategy involved in drafting. Need to get better at it though :?

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i hate sealed because my sealed luck is fucking terrible

    whereas in draft i can control the outcome of my card pool

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    I like sealed better because I get what I get, and I don't have to pass something to someone else just because it won't help me do better

    in draft I often find myself having to pick between something I want outside of the tournament and something that is significantly less rare/useful but is much better for the deck that's taking shape

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i love hatedrafting.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I hate lovedrafting

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    B.C. wrote:
    I am tempted to go to the local launch event around here and try to grab some cards or whatever. Kinda like the theme bits for this thing.

    Go.
    Pre-release and launch events are so fun.
    All these people opening up new packs of never before played magic cards and just going insane trying to figure out how to make them work in a sealed deck/draft pool.

    It's one of the most level playing fields, where the only thing a more seasoned player has over a newer one is that little bit of experience.

    Seriously, prerelease sealed is my favorite game type.

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Pfff! Nobody even cares about Magic anymore.

    Why don't you have any Pokemon cards? JEEZ!


    That was what happened to me at school when I brought my Magic cards.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    i hate sealed because my sealed luck is fucking terrible

    whereas in draft i can control the outcome of my card pool
    same
    i love hatedrafting.

    also same

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    I played sealed prerelease for one of the kamigawa sets

    I pulled a good card and immediately traded it for a lousy one

    alas, youth

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    Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    oh no pip is agreeing with me blurgghhh

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    welcome to shit town

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    Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    BugBoy wrote:
    I played sealed prerelease for one of the kamigawa sets

    I pulled a good card and immediately traded it for a lousy one

    alas, youth

    I pulled one awesome blue card that I heard was great and a bunch of crappy other blue cards

    so naturally I went blue

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    BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    I don't remember what I went with

    all I remember is trading away this for this

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    oh man Iname as One

    I remember pulling him in a pack and being so happy because it cost a lot and was in two colors and had two other related rares clearly it had to be good

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i don't understand sealed at all

    how do you handle mana

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