i have a lot of reasons to not watch any of those shows besides their gushing, anglophilic, livejournal-icons-with-poorly-paint-shop-pro'd-because-they-couldn't-afford-photoshop-sparkly-hearts-making teen fanbase. mostly that i just don't really take on much new television these days, since there are already a bunch of current programs i follow. shit has to be super well liked but multiple people whose taste i typically enjoy. i also don't really look forward to the idea of marathons of seasons like i did when i was younger. my goddamned ass will hurt, being in this chair for that long.
but anyway the point is i did not expect to be RealNameI'mDisappointedInYou condemned because of some campy tv shows
forget it, jake
it's ponychat
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i hold a really unfair bias against shows like dr who, firefly and buffy that are beloved by 15 year old american girls who love the united kingdom and livejournal
As a 15 year old American Girl,
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i have a lot of reasons to not watch any of those shows besides their gushing, anglophilic, livejournal-icons-with-poorly-paint-shop-pro'd-because-they-couldn't-afford-photoshop-sparkly-hearts-making teen fanbase. mostly that i just don't really take on much new television these days, since there are already a bunch of current programs i follow. shit has to be super well liked but multiple people whose taste i typically enjoy. i also don't really look forward to the idea of marathons of seasons like i did when i was younger. my goddamned ass will hurt, being in this chair for that long.
but anyway the point is i did not expect to be RealNameI'mDisappointedInYou condemned because of some campy tv shows
Don't you know that the only person who is allowed to have opinions is Pony, chu?
Nope that won't end with a depressing twist ending at all. A retro indie game would never do that.
it is fanneh to me that this is the first thing u jump 2
Because media is never about overcoming the odds and adversity anymore. It's so god damned grim dark
There can't just be heros. People can't just defy fate and death and say "fuck you. Everybody lives."
It's always a god damned message about how the world is shit and life is shit and everything is shit.
I can get this.
There is a general disdain for happy endings these days. I think that our culture just isn't interested in them right now.
The trick is that it's hard to do people who are heroes the way that you want and yet still give them complex motivations. Or rather, it looks really hard to TV execs.
This is bullshit, things have happy endings all the god damn time, there's just a cynical confirmation bias going on with the part of both of you here where you're obfuscating the critical acclaim and popularity of a handful of things for the trend of the entirety of entertainment.
Give it a rest.
First off. Don't be a dick Pony. You've done the equivalent of going "nuh uh!" here. It's not helpful, and it's annoying. If you don't want to participate, fucking don't do so man. No one forces you to read and respond to every post about entertainment.
Second, I think that you're missing the point. It's that so many of the protagonists that we have in our media are broken and dark. Think of House, True Detective, Game of Thrones, Batman. Hell, the problem that most people had with Man of Steel was that it did that to Superman. It's like everything has to be gritty.
Third, it doesn't have to be ubiquitous to be a strong cultural idea. There are clearly exceptions, and those are great. Captain America is a good one. Good hero, and he isn't some sort of grim or dark (or grimdark) guy. He's clearly a good guy, who's motivations are towards the good. But I don't know if you can reasonably claim, in one god damn argumentless sentence, that heroes like him are the rule. It seems like our heroes are tragic figures or anti-heroes these days.
Now I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can understand someone who doesn't see the bright 4 color hero any more and laments that loss.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Also, no one before has ever accused me of being a cynic, so that's new.
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
it was sort of an american take on the original premise of Doctor Who, which was "have adventures in history". from back when pbs took their education mandate really seriously.
the premise is that there's a dude named Phineas Bogg who is a handsome "Voyager" who is sent through time to fix things that didn't go the way they were supposed to. somehow he also picked up a young orphan named jeffrey to help him out. so they go through time and roguish phineas romances all the ladies (chastely, this was 1980s pbs) while earnest jeffrey tells him what kind of history was supposed to happen.
they never say where phineas is from - but he knows absolutely nothing about history or really anything. he doesn't know what a clutch on a car is. he doesn't know who mark twain is. he doesn't know what poker is. with his broad surfer-dude accent i guess he must be from some cali commune where he was kept in a shed for 20 years before being loosed on the world.
it's low-budget and silly, but they really manage to pack a lot of history into the episodes. one giving the history of flight had the pair bouncing between WWI and the wright brothers and meeting eddie richenbacher. another focusing on slavery had them bouncing between spartacus and harriet tubman and young mark twain.
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
edit: oh something fun i foget: phineas' acting direction is clearly "be like han solo". that is exactly what he does. he even uses "kid" all the time.
o one last thing i'm sorry if my characterization of you was unfair, hakkes. i realize that your quinceanera was last year and now you're actually a 16 year old so and so
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frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
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i hold a really unfair bias against shows like dr who, firefly and buffy that are beloved by 15 year old american girls who love the united kingdom and livejournal
The Firefly fandom is insufferable. No, it's not coming back. No, it would not be any good even if it were brought back. Tough shit.
That doesn't mean the show itself is bad, though.
Yeah.
Like, Serenity was kiiiiinnnd of a bad movie. I wish it got a fair shot on TV at the time, but it's over now! Cherish what you got and move on.
In the Firefly reboot, there will be a solid episode where Inara is waiting for the results of her space herpes test
but then Jayne comes down with the space herpes and Mal gets mad that Inara and Jayne were having sexies
but then it turns out that everyone is positive for space herpes
frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
it was sort of an american take on the original premise of Doctor Who, which was "have adventures in history". from back when pbs took their education mandate really seriously.
the premise is that there's a dude named Phineas Bogg who is a handsome "Voyager" who is sent through time to fix things that didn't go the way they were supposed to.
This could go gloriously dark!
Phineas, we have to sink the Titanic!
This meddling time traveler is prematurely introducing a cure for polio. We must stop him!
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o one last thing i'm sorry if my characterization of you was unfair, hakkes. i realize that your quinceanera was last year and now you're actually a 16 year old so and so
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i hold a really unfair bias against shows like dr who, firefly and buffy that are beloved by 15 year old american girls who love the united kingdom and livejournal
david sedaris has a really funny bit about one of those
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frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
i have a lot of reasons to not watch any of those shows besides their gushing, anglophilic, livejournal-icons-with-poorly-paint-shop-pro'd-because-they-couldn't-afford-photoshop-sparkly-hearts-making teen fanbase. mostly that i just don't really take on much new television these days, since there are already a bunch of current programs i follow. shit has to be super well liked but multiple people whose taste i typically enjoy. i also don't really look forward to the idea of marathons of seasons like i did when i was younger. my goddamned ass will hurt, being in this chair for that long.
but anyway the point is i did not expect to be RealNameI'mDisappointedInYou condemned because of some campy tv shows
sorry I busted your balls so hard then, man. But the reason you gave initially is so common and sadly pedestrian and like
to be frank I respect you and I think better of you than having just that kind of shit as a reason
and hating on "tumblr girls" who coo about Dr. Who is such a fucking neckbeard thing to do I was like
chu no
chu pls
pls no
like seriously you might not have meant to do so but that post on its own you were a cheeto-sceneted huff away from sounding like a dude who angrily posts on really heinous subreddits
frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
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it's p sad but you'd be surprised at the number of actors who have killed themselves with blanks
at point blank range they're actually really dangerous
frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
WTFFFffff
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
During a break between scenes on the set on October 12, 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum became bored with the filming delays. He began playing Russian roulette with what he believed was a harmless .44 Magnum prop gun and jokingly placed it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The shot sent the wadding from the blank cartridge into Hexum's skull, driving a bone fragment the size of a quarter into his brain and causing massive hemorrhaging. Hexum was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually was declared brain dead.
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
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hold on u guys Im running for congress so I can introduce prop gun control legislation
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It's hilarious how since I started thinking about making a time-travel game, I keep seeing two or three new things related to time travel every day.
I like how the brain notices things when you think about them.
frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
WTFFFffff
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
During a break between scenes on the set on October 12, 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum became bored with the filming delays. He began playing Russian roulette with what he believed was a harmless .44 Magnum prop gun and jokingly placed it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The shot sent the wadding from the blank cartridge into Hexum's skull, driving a bone fragment the size of a quarter into his brain and causing massive hemorrhaging. Hexum was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually was declared brain dead.
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
yeah there's still a shit ton of force coming out of the barrel even if the bullet has no slug
you'd think that would be the very first thing the firearms guy on set would tell an actor
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frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
WTFFFffff
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
During a break between scenes on the set on October 12, 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum became bored with the filming delays. He began playing Russian roulette with what he believed was a harmless .44 Magnum prop gun and jokingly placed it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The shot sent the wadding from the blank cartridge into Hexum's skull, driving a bone fragment the size of a quarter into his brain and causing massive hemorrhaging. Hexum was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually was declared brain dead.
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
Brandon Lee actually got killed with a squib load and a blank. Instead of using dummy rounds the crew made their own. But they left the primer in the cartridge. That pushed the bullet into the barrel. No one noticed then a blank was fired with a bullet in the barrel. It lost a fair amount of energy but at a few feet it was more then enough to kill.
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frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
WTFFFffff
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
During a break between scenes on the set on October 12, 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum became bored with the filming delays. He began playing Russian roulette with what he believed was a harmless .44 Magnum prop gun and jokingly placed it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The shot sent the wadding from the blank cartridge into Hexum's skull, driving a bone fragment the size of a quarter into his brain and causing massive hemorrhaging. Hexum was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually was declared brain dead.
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
I didn't pick up a gun until I was an adult. I was in my early 20s and my friends were going to go shooting and I had never been.
The very first thing that I was told was under no circumstances to point a gun at someone. Ever. I picked up an unloaded firearm, and they were all serious face and were like. Never point a gun at a person.
I think the implication was "unless you are willing to see that person dead"
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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there has actually been a dramatic widening of what constitutes a "happy ending"
while films have become dramatically more formulaic in structure, the films are now allowing more commonly a modicum of confusion and sacrifice during the course of the film - this is partly due to the infamous screenwriting book
this is an excellent thing. we are seeing a general broadening of tone, and moreover both the desire and ability to have more interesting combinations and mixtures of tone. going from the triumphalism of something like the avengers to the slightly more nuanced ending of cap 2, even if staying just within the genre of superhero movies. there are very very few popular films that actually have FUCK YOU endings
even breaking bad, which is a tragedy, avoids a full on fuck you ending. probably the closest thing to fuck you television is game of thrones, and even that is trying to avoid a relentlessly bleak and yawnsome emotional gamut
im down wiv it
it would be hard to argue that the star wars trilogy didnt have a happy ending, and yet remember empire...
frankie has been watching an old pbs show called Voyagers! on netflix
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
WTFFFffff
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
During a break between scenes on the set on October 12, 1984, Jon-Erik Hexum became bored with the filming delays. He began playing Russian roulette with what he believed was a harmless .44 Magnum prop gun and jokingly placed it to his temple and pulled the trigger. The shot sent the wadding from the blank cartridge into Hexum's skull, driving a bone fragment the size of a quarter into his brain and causing massive hemorrhaging. Hexum was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually was declared brain dead.
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
I didn't pick up a gun until I was an adult. I was in my early 20s and my friends were going to go shooting and I had never been.
The very first thing that I was told was under no circumstances to point a gun at someone. Ever. I picked up an unloaded firearm, and they were all serious face and were like. Never point a gun at a person.
I think the implication was "unless you are willing to see that person dead"
Guns get pointed at things you want holes in. If you don't want a hole in it, then don't aim a gun at it.
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Angel turned left into awesome town during it's run.
forget it, jake
it's ponychat
Don't you know that the only person who is allowed to have opinions is Pony, chu?
Buffy the next generation would be good
a show set in the same universe where Buffy has finally failed to avoid the gruesome death awaiting all slayers
we follow a new slayer and a new group of interesting demon supporting cast
from what I've read about seasons 8-10, shit went off the rails
First off. Don't be a dick Pony. You've done the equivalent of going "nuh uh!" here. It's not helpful, and it's annoying. If you don't want to participate, fucking don't do so man. No one forces you to read and respond to every post about entertainment.
Second, I think that you're missing the point. It's that so many of the protagonists that we have in our media are broken and dark. Think of House, True Detective, Game of Thrones, Batman. Hell, the problem that most people had with Man of Steel was that it did that to Superman. It's like everything has to be gritty.
Third, it doesn't have to be ubiquitous to be a strong cultural idea. There are clearly exceptions, and those are great. Captain America is a good one. Good hero, and he isn't some sort of grim or dark (or grimdark) guy. He's clearly a good guy, who's motivations are towards the good. But I don't know if you can reasonably claim, in one god damn argumentless sentence, that heroes like him are the rule. It seems like our heroes are tragic figures or anti-heroes these days.
Now I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can understand someone who doesn't see the bright 4 color hero any more and laments that loss.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
have u considered not being a basic bitch?
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Only if they kept Anthony Steward Head.
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it was sort of an american take on the original premise of Doctor Who, which was "have adventures in history". from back when pbs took their education mandate really seriously.
the premise is that there's a dude named Phineas Bogg who is a handsome "Voyager" who is sent through time to fix things that didn't go the way they were supposed to. somehow he also picked up a young orphan named jeffrey to help him out. so they go through time and roguish phineas romances all the ladies (chastely, this was 1980s pbs) while earnest jeffrey tells him what kind of history was supposed to happen.
they never say where phineas is from - but he knows absolutely nothing about history or really anything. he doesn't know what a clutch on a car is. he doesn't know who mark twain is. he doesn't know what poker is. with his broad surfer-dude accent i guess he must be from some cali commune where he was kept in a shed for 20 years before being loosed on the world.
it's low-budget and silly, but they really manage to pack a lot of history into the episodes. one giving the history of flight had the pair bouncing between WWI and the wright brothers and meeting eddie richenbacher. another focusing on slavery had them bouncing between spartacus and harriet tubman and young mark twain.
anyways the actor who played phineas was goofing with a prop gun on-set and killed himself midway through the first season. still it's a fun bit of whimsical nostalgia if you guys have some cycles. probably still great for kids.
edit: oh something fun i foget: phineas' acting direction is clearly "be like han solo". that is exactly what he does. he even uses "kid" all the time.
Buffy was good for like 4 seasons, and then OK into bad before recovering for the very end
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hes calling u a κύων shits gettin etymological up in here
u dog u
i expect some fkn texts throughout the day, funny jokes, vines, pictures of dicks and labia, maybe flirting in arabic or french
don't leave me alone with this horrible lower middle class customer base on no sleep chat pls
i never read the comic books that came after the show
i dont think most people who watched the show did
anything in there that makes a sequel series impossible can p easily be written off or ignored
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Send this woman to Hollywood!
This could go gloriously dark!
Phineas, we have to sink the Titanic!
This meddling time traveler is prematurely introducing a cure for polio. We must stop him!
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david sedaris has a really funny bit about one of those
Blanks can still kill. It's how Brandon Lee died.
sorry I busted your balls so hard then, man. But the reason you gave initially is so common and sadly pedestrian and like
to be frank I respect you and I think better of you than having just that kind of shit as a reason
and hating on "tumblr girls" who coo about Dr. Who is such a fucking neckbeard thing to do I was like
chu no
chu pls
pls no
like seriously you might not have meant to do so but that post on its own you were a cheeto-sceneted huff away from sounding like a dude who angrily posts on really heinous subreddits
and i was aghast
it's p sad but you'd be surprised at the number of actors who have killed themselves with blanks
at point blank range they're actually really dangerous
Yeah, don't mess with guns. Even prop ones.
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OUR YOUNG HEROES ARE BEING YANKED AWAY FROM US
yeah there's still a shit ton of force coming out of the barrel even if the bullet has no slug
you'd think that would be the very first thing the firearms guy on set would tell an actor
Brandon Lee actually got killed with a squib load and a blank. Instead of using dummy rounds the crew made their own. But they left the primer in the cartridge. That pushed the bullet into the barrel. No one noticed then a blank was fired with a bullet in the barrel. It lost a fair amount of energy but at a few feet it was more then enough to kill.
ban prop guns and also male impotence
dual purpose bill with one title "no more shooting blanks"
I didn't pick up a gun until I was an adult. I was in my early 20s and my friends were going to go shooting and I had never been.
The very first thing that I was told was under no circumstances to point a gun at someone. Ever. I picked up an unloaded firearm, and they were all serious face and were like. Never point a gun at a person.
I think the implication was "unless you are willing to see that person dead"
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Guns get pointed at things you want holes in. If you don't want a hole in it, then don't aim a gun at it.