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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    We'll know we're really in trouble when whatever new organisation gets created has a snappy acronym. Even more so if we're never told what it is.
    Hopefully Coulson will immediately pick up on how serious it is, just like when dealing with Scorch.
    "They're calling it S.W.O.R.D? We've got a problem."

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    It is kind of funny how
    Ward's brother proposed that they should create a multi-national military force to take down SHIELD so he pretty much wants to make another SHIELD to hunt SHIELD.
    It's almost like he already knows of one and has it in mind.

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    ShadowhopeShadowhope Baa. Registered User regular
    Anyone have any thoughts on where they're going with the guy with the
    alien (?) map tattoos?

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    It is kind of funny how
    Ward's brother proposed that they should create a multi-national military force to take down SHIELD so he pretty much wants to make another SHIELD to hunt SHIELD.
    Maybe like a SWORD or something?

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    That speech Talbot gave at the beginning was weird.
    He said that SHIELD came on to the scene during the Chitauri attack and that they thought that it was going to help protect the world. He made it sound like SHIELD was some kind of private organization that popped out of nowhere. But it was created by the Allies after WW2, funded by the UN, and heavily supported by the US government. I know that he was probably trying to rewrite history and playing politics but it's kind of hard to deny that SHIELD probably got billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars, lots of weapons and equipment, and tons of personnel from the United States government.

    That whole fake SHIELD attack on the UN was really stupid. Could they have made it more obvious that the whole thing was fake and meant to smear SHIELD's name? The only way it could have been sillier is if their SHIELD logos were stickers and when they get pulled off, there's a Hydra logo underneath.
    To me it looked like Hydra was trying to grant extra political cover to the folks who want SHIELD's heads on pikes. It wasn't supposed to be subtle or even terribly realistic, it was just so people like Talbot could point and go, "See? See? They're totes evil!"

    That plan is so cartoony, I doubt that it would even work if Cobra tried it against G.I. Joe.

    You're not really putting yourself in the shoes of a regular Joe in that world. As far as the average watcher of nightly news goes,

    1) there are all these military goomba assholes running around with space lasers trying to kill people
    2) some of them are called HYDRA and some of them are called SHIELD and one used to be part of the other, or something? It's confusing
    3) anyway the government says they're all terrorists
    4) the angry white man on the TV is right, we need to do something about this menace!

    I think if GI Joe existed as they do in cartoons in the real world people would hate the crap out of them.

    They bail out of billion dollar aircraft at the first sign of damage.
    Everytime they fight 'the bad guys' they never hit a single enemy with bullets but just blow up a lot of buildings
    They 'arrest' the bad guys who are obviously released to rejoin cobra.
    Collaboration with cobra at times when they feel they need to then they let them go
    Uniform (Fashion) budget is outrageous.


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    Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    Maybe H.A.M.M.E.R. incoming?

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    Anyone have any thoughts on where they're going with the guy with the
    alien (?) map tattoos?
    The only people that have that compulsion...
    ...are humans that have been exposed to alien technology. That guy with the alien tattoos was Ward's brother, wasn't he? Senator Ward?

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    i don't understand
    how people are unable to recognize tattoo man as a completely new character and actor who hasn't been on the show before. he looks nothing like ward's brother or skyes dad.

    its time to go to specsavers guys.
    he reminded me of henry rollins

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Rollins:
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    Tattoo guy:
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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Oh shit, speculation time (this has probably been put forward before, but it just dawned on me for the first time):
    Okay, so we know they're making a Captain Marvel movie starring Carol Danvers.

    Regarding the origin of her powers:
    wikipedia wrote:
    the energy exposure from the explosion of a device called the "Psyche-Magnetron" caused Danvers's genetic structure to meld with Captain Marvel's, effectively turning her into a human-Kree hybrid.

    What if in the MCU, Danvers wasn't turned into a human-kree hybrid, but instead was literally the child of a human and a kree?

    And what if Skye's real name is Carol?

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Winky wrote: »
    Oh shit, speculation time (this has probably been put forward before, but it just dawned on me for the first time):
    Okay, so we know they're making a Captain Marvel movie starring Carol Danvers.

    Regarding the origin of her powers:
    wikipedia wrote:
    the energy exposure from the explosion of a device called the "Psyche-Magnetron" caused Danvers's genetic structure to meld with Captain Marvel's, effectively turning her into a human-Kree hybrid.

    What if in the MCU, Danvers wasn't turned into a human-kree hybrid, but instead was literally the child of a human and a kree?

    And what if Skye's real name is Carol?

    that will never happen.

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    DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Rollins:
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    Tattoo guy:
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    rollins mannerisms is mostly what i meant.

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Best part of last nights ep was Colson breaking all the tv tropes about redemption and telling him flat out hes a piece of crap and he aint ever coming back as an agent. Even the way he said it, like he was about to laugh in the guys face at the idea. It's funny how this show dispite its super hero world is more real then most TV dramas.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Man I swear Tattoo Guy looks like somebody we already saw last night.

    At first I thought he was the doctor from earlier, before realizing that he's apparently someone else all together.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Best part of last nights ep was Colson breaking all the tv tropes about redemption and telling him flat out hes a piece of crap and he aint ever coming back as an agent. Even the way he said it, like he was about to laugh in the guys face at the idea. It's funny how this show dispite its super hero world is more real then most TV dramas.

    yeah this episode made a really strong case for them not going the redemption route with Ward. Coulson's outburst, the speech about Ward always lying/finding someone to believe him, Simmons threatening to kill him. and i doubt he'll be too pleased with the team after they tried to ship him off like that, so less chance of him wanting to rejoin the team now(not that i think he was sincere about that anyway).

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Man I swear Tattoo Guy looks like somebody we already saw last night.

    At first I thought he was the doctor from earlier, before realizing that he's apparently someone else all together.

    Tattoo Guy is obviously some kind of shape-shifter. how else could anyone explain him being able to look like so many different people. :P

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    I had a weird thought.

    There are alien devices out there. Special people can touch them, most can't without going insane.

    Skye's dad can touch it. I am assuming this means Skye can too.

    There is another dude we have run into in the MCU who was able to survive touching a (much more powerful) alien artifact. Who also has no idea who his dad is, but we the audience have been told that his dad is an asshole.

    My gut tells me I am wrong, but it would be a pretty funny coincidence.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    syndalis wrote: »
    I had a weird thought.

    There are alien devices out there. Special people can touch them, most can't without going insane.

    Skye's dad can touch it. I am assuming this means Skye can too.

    There is another dude we have run into in the MCU who was able to survive touching a (much more powerful) alien artifact. Who also has no idea who his dad is, but we the audience have been told that his dad is an asshole.

    My gut tells me I am wrong, but it would be a pretty funny coincidence.

    Theory
    The connection is the person touching the Diviner has to be Kree or Inhuman. The resurrected have Kree blood in their veins, and so does Skye - and she might be a different sort of alien/alien hybrid before she got the Kree blood. That's probably why it isn't effecting her like it is with Coulson and Garrett.

    edit: Who is the dude you're talking about?

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular

    I appreciated the "Aliens" line being delivered in the same style as the Ancient Aliens guy.

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    KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    I had a weird thought.

    There are alien devices out there. Special people can touch them, most can't without going insane.

    Skye's dad can touch it. I am assuming this means Skye can too.

    There is another dude we have run into in the MCU who was able to survive touching a (much more powerful) alien artifact. Who also has no idea who his dad is, but we the audience have been told that his dad is an asshole.

    My gut tells me I am wrong, but it would be a pretty funny coincidence.

    Theory
    The connection is the person touching the Diviner has to be Kree or Inhuman. The resurrected have Kree blood in their veins, and so does Skye - and she might be a different sort of alien/alien hybrid before she got the Kree blood. That's probably why it isn't effecting her like it is with Coulson and Garrett.

    edit: Who is the dude you're talking about?

    I assume it's
    Peter Quill, aka Star Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Kashaar wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    I had a weird thought.

    There are alien devices out there. Special people can touch them, most can't without going insane.

    Skye's dad can touch it. I am assuming this means Skye can too.

    There is another dude we have run into in the MCU who was able to survive touching a (much more powerful) alien artifact. Who also has no idea who his dad is, but we the audience have been told that his dad is an asshole.

    My gut tells me I am wrong, but it would be a pretty funny coincidence.

    Theory
    The connection is the person touching the Diviner has to be Kree or Inhuman. The resurrected have Kree blood in their veins, and so does Skye - and she might be a different sort of alien/alien hybrid before she got the Kree blood. That's probably why it isn't effecting her like it is with Coulson and Garrett.

    edit: Who is the dude you're talking about?

    I assume it's
    Peter Quill, aka Star Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy.

    Yes.

    Also, go by names.
    Peter Quill may be his name, but his mom called him Star Lord.
    We don't know her real name (not that it matters too much), but she is called Skye.

    So Star and Skye, huh.

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    The Marvel announcements seems to confirm the speculation about Skye's origins.

    Also Adrianne Palicki as Bobbi Morse in combat gear = incredibly hot.

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Why am i seeing on multiple sites talking about the announcements yesterday the Captain america 3 movie title logo being "Serpent Society" instead of civil war?

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Why am i seeing on multiple sites talking about the announcements yesterday the Captain america 3 movie title logo being "Serpent Society" instead of civil war?

    It was a fakeout. They switched it at the end for the climax of the presentation

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Why am i seeing on multiple sites talking about the announcements yesterday the Captain america 3 movie title logo being "Serpent Society" instead of civil war?

    They trolled the announcement. It was Serpent Society initially on the projector, and then they changed it later.

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    AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Why am i seeing on multiple sites talking about the announcements yesterday the Captain america 3 movie title logo being "Serpent Society" instead of civil war?

    Because they originally announced it as Serpent Society during the presser, and then changed it to Civil War 15 or 20 minutes later as they brought out RDJ and Chris Evans.

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Why am i seeing on multiple sites talking about the announcements yesterday the Captain america 3 movie title logo being "Serpent Society" instead of civil war?

    It was a prank they pulled at the start of that meeting where they announced the Phase 3 movies.

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Hum. cute idea. I'm a bit wary about bringing civil war into the series at such an early age...its not like there will be enough superheroes by the time it comes out to mimic the superhero registration act stuff of the comics.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    I kinda think Civil War makes sense at this point with the Hydra revelation and with the discovery that Hydra was creating/turning their own supers.

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    I hope they'll have Pepper play a big role in Civil War since she owns Stark Industries so Tony can't do much without her approval.

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    iguanacusiguanacus Desert PlanetRegistered User regular
    I hope they'll have Pepper play a big role in Civil War since she owns Stark Industries so Tony can't do much without her approval.

    She's the CEO, not the owner. I'm sure Tony is still the largest single shareholder in the company.

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    oh my god civil war is going to be so bad

    well I was wondering what was going to kill the MCU

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    As skeptical as I can be, I don't see any scenario where you put RDJ and Chris Evans in a movie together as Iron Man and Cap and get anything but gold.

    I mean, action adventure flick, duh. But rom-com? Sure, it would work. Vaudeville? Why the fuck not?

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    As skeptical as I can be, I don't see any scenario where you put RDJ and Chris Evans in a movie together as Iron Man and Cap and get anything but gold.

    I mean, action adventure flick, duh. But rom-com? Sure, it would work. Vaudeville? Why the fuck not?

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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Hum. cute idea. I'm a bit wary about bringing civil war into the series at such an early age...its not like there will be enough superheroes by the time it comes out to mimic the superhero registration act stuff of the comics.

    I think that's why Agents of Shield is building up to Inhumans in the most blatantly obvious ways. They can replace mutants without being called mutants, and create a set of super humans to fight for and against without having to go deep on backstory for powers. They have enough A list jerks (autocorrected from heroes but I am keeping it) to have both sides have heavy hitters to mop up some red shirts.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    With the Civil War announcement, it's useful to point out that the upcoming Avengers: Age of Ultron is not about Wolverine and the Invisible Woman going back in time to kill Hank Pym.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    oh my god civil war is going to be so bad

    well I was wondering what was going to kill the MCU

    That was the comics, have faith in the MCU.

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