RTD pretty obviously wasn't making everything up as he went, especially regarding things like Bad Wolf. That's an example of dropping hints and then paying them off according to plan. The hand I dunno, but probably they kept it around until they figured out how to use it somehow.
Some stuff worked a ton, like Bad Wolf, or Amy turning to goop, but maybe the more intricately plotted stuff by Moffatt never quite worked as well as RTD just mentioning Bad Wolf or John Saxon in the background of every episode. RTD never tried to tie himself in knots with clever season-long plotting and it seemed to flow more easily. He'd just mention something every episode and leave it hanging in the background, and we'd do the work for him. Moffatt would set up a chinese puzzle box, and the solution was never quite as good as we'd hoped it would be.
Yeah, TV is made up episode by episode, but stuff like Bad Wolf wasn't thought up in episode 10 and wow, it all worked out! They do plan a little ahead and aren't that good!
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Going back and watching RTD's seasons after watching season 5, none of the meta stories struck me as anywhere near as satisfying, compelling or mysterious.
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I think one of the things that made Season 5 really work for me was that "the crack in time" played a huge part in several other episodes outside of the finale, which really added weight to it. It playing a major part in the resolution of the Weeping Angel 2-parter especially.
They don't use time travel enough on the show, really. I mean it would get old if they kept doing it, but it pretty much never occurs to them outside of the mode of travel to start the problem.
Get Eccleston and Piper back for an episode and all kinds of crazy shit like that would be awesome. That being an extreme example that would never happen, but in general it be good if they used it a little more than they use it now which is for finales/Doctor meet ups.
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Maybe I just enjoyed the time travel dinner with the architect idea and the sewers of Tursurus too much. So once they work that in we'll hit my 'enough'.
You're right that that's why they don't use the time machine to time travel, but I just think they could do something really neat with it too more often than some of those examples. Or maybe just really confusing.
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
I think one of the things that made Season 5 really work for me was that "the crack in time" played a huge part in several other episodes outside of the finale, which really added weight to it. It playing a major part in the resolution of the Weeping Angel 2-parter especially.
I am sure everyone smiled when it showed up in the sky when the Doctor was dying of old age.
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
Fortunately they nixed the "go back farther in time and fix it" a long time ago with the Time Lords effectively telling The Doctor that they would leave him alone and let him meddle as long as he doesn't do that.
Also I just finished Classic Who! It took me a year. I can finally start New Who!
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
Fortunately they nixed the "go back farther in time and fix it" a long time ago with the Time Lords effectively telling The Doctor that they would leave him alone and let him meddle as long as he doesn't do that.
Also I just finished Classic Who! It took me a year. I can finally start New Who!
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
Fortunately they nixed the "go back farther in time and fix it" a long time ago with the Time Lords effectively telling The Doctor that they would leave him alone and let him meddle as long as he doesn't do that.
Also I just finished Classic Who! It took me a year. I can finally start New Who!
well, what are the time lords going to do now?
Probably sit around and huff and moan at this point.
Started series one. I know he's not around for long but Eccleston has been fantastic.
I dunno what your baseline is for 'enough', but they use it often enough for me. River Song's timeline running backwards in relation to the Doctor's, Rose creating a paradox by saving her dad, 10, 11 and the War Doctor meeting, the resolution of the Pandorica, the Doctor seeing himself die, the Weeping Angels, etc. They use those tricks sparingly for a reason.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
Fortunately they nixed the "go back farther in time and fix it" a long time ago with the Time Lords effectively telling The Doctor that they would leave him alone and let him meddle as long as he doesn't do that.
Also I just finished Classic Who! It took me a year. I can finally start New Who!
well, what are the time lords going to do now?
Probably sit around and huff and moan at this point.
Started series one. I know he's not around for long but Eccleston has been fantastic.
And so were you.
You'll get this joke later.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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The most you get is the slightest hint of him when War Doctor regenerates.
But Capaldi is my favourite so far of the new Doctors. Brilliant, savage, sharply dressed and attack eyebrows. He's the Doctor I most expect to see straight-up dickpunching someone.
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Really? I don't expect any direct violence from capaldi at all. He's ferocious all right, but he doesn't feel like the physical type.
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Two from The Daleks, an Emperor's Guard from Evil of the Daleks, a Special Weapons Dalek and the Supreme from the end of series 4. Hopefully this will feature classic Daleks actually getting used, unlike in Asylum.
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Got all excited for a sec, thought you meant this guy!
io9 has a pretty decent trailer breakdown for those interested. Looks like there's a very minor update to the console room AND THERE ARE ROUNDELS AGAIN YOU GUYS I AM SO INCREDIBLY EXCITED BY THIS TINY CHANGE
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Some stuff worked a ton, like Bad Wolf, or Amy turning to goop, but maybe the more intricately plotted stuff by Moffatt never quite worked as well as RTD just mentioning Bad Wolf or John Saxon in the background of every episode. RTD never tried to tie himself in knots with clever season-long plotting and it seemed to flow more easily. He'd just mention something every episode and leave it hanging in the background, and we'd do the work for him. Moffatt would set up a chinese puzzle box, and the solution was never quite as good as we'd hoped it would be.
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Get Eccleston and Piper back for an episode and all kinds of crazy shit like that would be awesome. That being an extreme example that would never happen, but in general it be good if they used it a little more than they use it now which is for finales/Doctor meet ups.
If the Doctor could just get in the TARDIS and solve things before they happened or trick his way out of things more regularly via time travel that would effectively kick the buildup of tension in the nuts. Time travel tricks are one kind of story, and the TARDIS is basically only a way of visiting anywhere and anytime for an adventure, not a plot device to be used as often as the sonic screwdriver.
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You're right that that's why they don't use the time machine to time travel, but I just think they could do something really neat with it too more often than some of those examples. Or maybe just really confusing.
Don't forget the Christmas Carol. That one was beautiful.
It's so arrogant.
I am sure everyone smiled when it showed up in the sky when the Doctor was dying of old age.
Fortunately they nixed the "go back farther in time and fix it" a long time ago with the Time Lords effectively telling The Doctor that they would leave him alone and let him meddle as long as he doesn't do that.
Also I just finished Classic Who! It took me a year. I can finally start New Who!
well, what are the time lords going to do now?
Probably sit around and huff and moan at this point.
Started series one. I know he's not around for long but Eccleston has been fantastic.
And so were you.
You'll get this joke later.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
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But Capaldi is my favourite so far of the new Doctors. Brilliant, savage, sharply dressed and attack eyebrows. He's the Doctor I most expect to see straight-up dickpunching someone.
Visit him at Monstrous Pigments' Instagram and Facebook pages!
wassup with the pajama pants tho?
Looks like a callback to the Second Doctor to me.
A nod to Patrick Troughton's Doctor, no doubt:
"Awesome is happening..."
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Ocean, tears and heartbreak soup
Half alive in a whitecap foam
Half in love with a white half moon