TBH if they named his Shamus Aran I wouldn't even be mad.
But Jake Spaceman...
I honestly can't decide if that's the worst or the best name ever. I mean the whole character idea of just completely erasing who Samus is terrible and dumb but I would expect nothing less from DiC.
Question is, did they know that Samus was a woman, or was this back in the days when that was a surprise for people who completed the game?
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
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Question is, did they know that Samus was a woman, or was this back in the days when that was a surprise for people who completed the game?
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
The Valiant comics at least got that right. So "they were different times" doesn't really work.
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Question is, did they know that Samus was a woman, or was this back in the days when that was a surprise for people who completed the game?
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
They absolutely knew Samus was a woman by the time the Super Mario Power Hour was being done.
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They were going to turn Castlevania into Scooby Doo, accuracy clearly wasn't anywhere on their priority list.
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Shit.
Just look at Mother Brain on captain N.
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Question is, did they know that Samus was a woman, or was this back in the days when that was a surprise for people who completed the game?
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
It would have ended with the real Samus tracking Jake Spaceman down and killing him for impersonating her so he could get better bounties. Then she would have stolen his armor and blown the planet up under him for good measure.
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Is Jake Spaceman sorta the Cowboy Andy to Samus's Spike Spiegle?
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The Space Dandy to Samus’ Cowboy Bebop.
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I wouldn't blame anyone for getting Samus' gender wrong back in the day. The original instruction manual does refer to Samus as "he" and it's not particularly easy to get an ending that reveals the truth.
Question is, did they know that Samus was a woman, or was this back in the days when that was a surprise for people who completed the game?
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
I'm honestly thinking they didn't. As RidleySaria said, the manual deliberately uses male pronouns to fool the player. And while this is probably something that would have been corrected if greenlit, who knows what stage this pitch was in. It obviously never happened so maybe somebody just drew up this concept art for it not knowing Samus was female. Plus a lot of the crap back then was done by people who didn't know shit about video games and were just superficially taking names and designs from them to cash in.
Looking back at that manual makes me wish Nintendo would make a Metroid art book. The Zelda books are wonderful and there’s a lot of great Metroid materials they could give a similar treatment.
Unfortunately I know this won’t happen. Metroid is the red headed stepchild, not even worthy of acknowledgement when it has anniversaries.
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I liked the idea behind the fusion suit, but not the execution. I'm kinda partial to this alternate concept by DA user manganiac (again, some nsfw stuff in their gallery):
...I think I've posted this before, but it was probably over a year ago, so should be okay to repost, right?
The Zero Suit is also dumb. Not that she has a jumpsuit on underneath that's fine and makes sense, it's tight-fitting power armor. It's all the modifications they've made to it over the years to have it be a standalone thing with those weird-ass rocket heels and that dumb little pistol and all that stuff.
She's got power armor and is already agile as fuck in it! She doesn't need to take it off to accomplish things!
The Zero Suit is also dumb. Not that she has a jumpsuit on underneath that's fine and makes sense, it's tight-fitting power armor. It's all the modifications they've made to it over the years to have it be a standalone thing with those weird-ass rocket heels and that dumb little pistol and all that stuff.
She's got power armor and is already agile as fuck in it! She doesn't need to take it off to accomplish things!
Having a backup gun inside the power suit is just dumb enough for me to buy it. Samus probably does concealed carry all the time, even in casual clothes when she's not suited up. What if she's eating at that one noodle place on some space station and Ripley busts through the window? Can't be too careful.
The Zero Suit is also dumb. Not that she has a jumpsuit on underneath that's fine and makes sense, it's tight-fitting power armor. It's all the modifications they've made to it over the years to have it be a standalone thing with those weird-ass rocket heels and that dumb little pistol and all that stuff.
She's got power armor and is already agile as fuck in it! She doesn't need to take it off to accomplish things!
Having a backup gun inside the power suit is just dumb enough for me to buy it. Samus probably does concealed carry all the time, even in casual clothes when she's not suited up. What if she's eating at that one noodle place on some space station and Ripley busts through the window? Can't be too careful.
I think you mean Ridley. Unless you've got some interesting crossover fic in mind?
Samus already has Chozo blood pumping through her veins. I basically imagine her like a Space Marine from 40K or the Master Chief: a total badass even without her armor.
Zero Suit and its stupid little pistol was well-used in Zero mission. It's getting by with what you got, and it was a great contrast between tensely sneaking around space pirates and then massacring them once you get the power suit back.
Whatever bullshit they've done in Smash or Other M I can't vouch for.
Metroid Prime is still a fun game but dang I really don't like the pointer controls in the Metroid Trilogy version. Darn the Wii era of video games, darn it forever.
Was it ever not magic bullshit, though? Even in Super Metroid, this is the death animation:
Now this might just be me, but it definitely looks like some kind of magic bullshit.
Well, that's a death animation. It's the suit running out of energy for defense and exploding, whatever attack it was killing her in the process. When she puts it on it's just climbing into a metal suit and/or putting on metal pieces manually.
I think the only time the suit has been portrayed as something physical that could be removed from her body is Metroid Fusion, and even then only in part.
Isn't the big issue in Fusion that her suit can't be removed while she's unconscious?
Rewatching the cutscene, I guess the issue was that the organic components of her suit fused with her body to the degree that they couldn't be removed while she was unconscious (???). Yeah, I don't even know.
And let’s be honest; would you ever want to use a space suit that vanished if you lost concentration or consciousness? I would think that’s orecisely when you want to be absolutely certain it’ll stay on and pressurized.
I think the only time the suit has been portrayed as something physical that could be removed from her body is Metroid Fusion, and even then only in part.
I’ve defended a lot of stuff in Other M but the vanishing suit retcon isn’t one of them. It’s a cool effect when it appears but otherwise it makes no sense.
Hard light was actually in Zero Mission if you looked carefully. The cutscene right after you first leave Zebes. Fusion makes so little sense with it though.
Was it ever not magic bullshit, though? Even in Super Metroid, this is the death animation:
Now this might just be me, but it definitely looks like some kind of magic bullshit.
The suit itself has pieces flying everywhere like shrapnel. That's the exact opposite of what you'd expect from hard light failing.
The fade to white is just the typical mysterious beam o' light from nowhere covering up naughtiness.
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But Jake Spaceman...
I honestly can't decide if that's the worst or the best name ever. I mean the whole character idea of just completely erasing who Samus is terrible and dumb but I would expect nothing less from DiC.
Given the level of research they clearly did for cartoons, I'd guess that reading the manual and playing it for maybe five minutes would have been the limit.
The Valiant comics at least got that right. So "they were different times" doesn't really work.
They absolutely knew Samus was a woman by the time the Super Mario Power Hour was being done.
That, or something like The Tick, complete with grandiose self-monologuing and being about as stupid as potato.
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Just look at Mother Brain on captain N.
It would have ended with the real Samus tracking Jake Spaceman down and killing him for impersonating her so he could get better bounties. Then she would have stolen his armor and blown the planet up under him for good measure.
Or anything on Captain N.
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The Castlevania pitch also looked terrible.
I'm honestly thinking they didn't. As RidleySaria said, the manual deliberately uses male pronouns to fool the player. And while this is probably something that would have been corrected if greenlit, who knows what stage this pitch was in. It obviously never happened so maybe somebody just drew up this concept art for it not knowing Samus was female. Plus a lot of the crap back then was done by people who didn't know shit about video games and were just superficially taking names and designs from them to cash in.
Unfortunately I know this won’t happen. Metroid is the red headed stepchild, not even worthy of acknowledgement when it has anniversaries.
...I think I've posted this before, but it was probably over a year ago, so should be okay to repost, right?
I'm a simple fan.
This was I think we can all agree it was a bad call.
The suit itself no longer makes sense anymore because the suit is made of hard light
Physical suit FTW.
She's got power armor and is already agile as fuck in it! She doesn't need to take it off to accomplish things!
Having a backup gun inside the power suit is just dumb enough for me to buy it. Samus probably does concealed carry all the time, even in casual clothes when she's not suited up. What if she's eating at that one noodle place on some space station and Ripley busts through the window? Can't be too careful.
I think you mean Ridley. Unless you've got some interesting crossover fic in mind?
Whatever bullshit they've done in Smash or Other M I can't vouch for.
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Was it ever not magic bullshit, though? Even in Super Metroid, this is the death animation:
Now this might just be me, but it definitely looks like some kind of magic bullshit.
Rewatching the cutscene, I guess the issue was that the organic components of her suit fused with her body to the degree that they couldn't be removed while she was unconscious (???). Yeah, I don't even know.
And let’s be honest; would you ever want to use a space suit that vanished if you lost concentration or consciousness? I would think that’s orecisely when you want to be absolutely certain it’ll stay on and pressurized.
In Prime 1 she takes off her helmet.
The suit itself has pieces flying everywhere like shrapnel. That's the exact opposite of what you'd expect from hard light failing.
The fade to white is just the typical mysterious beam o' light from nowhere covering up naughtiness.