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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    I will be honestly surprised if Trump does not use this speech to attack the "fake news" and by association call for the end of the Russia investigation because its nothing but propaganda that caused something like this.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Even if the shooter straight-up says "I shot at them because it's the only way they might understand that we need more gun regulation in this country," GOP lawmakers are not going to take the right lessons from this...

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I guess I'm just upset that because of this particular shooters political leaning its a problem. Again right winger kills two people in oregon not much of an issue, barely a blip on the cycle its a local story. A reportedly left winger shoots up some GOP congressman and now we have a problem? Are you kidding me? We've had a motherfucking problem. Sandy Hook, the pulse night club shootings, Dylan fucking Roof. I'd like to think they'd look at the ease of getting guns and do something about it, but the only thing I can see probably happening is more protections for congress people while everyday americans continue to die on the fucking streets because we don't have capitol hill police escorts.

    They already set the core of "thankfully the good guys" were there with the police. Rand Paul's statement. Not sure if this will exactly be a Brady Act 2.0 event. Given the current world and us climate I would say no.

    I am going to hug my GF all the more tonight I can tell you that.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    I will be honestly surprised if Trump does not use this speech to attack the "fake news" and by association call for the end of the Russia investigation because its nothing but propaganda that caused something like this.

    Trump uses the sky being blue to attack news media.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Its kind of sick to me that this shooting gets a presidential response almost immediately where as two men died defending a muslim girl and that didn't get a staffer to offer a shitty tweet till three days later.

    I'm not trying to defend Trump here, but this situation is gigantically different from most other shootings. Attempted mass shooting against sitting congressmen warrants an immediate response from the pres.

    Just to be clear, I haven't seen what Trump said, but I'm assuming it's awful.

    The issue I have is that what you are saying effectively is Trump cares about his own party getting attacked, but couldn't bother to care about people of opposing idealogy defending someone he hates dying to someone who supports him. And that's a fucking problem for someone who is god damn president of the united states, and not just the GOP states.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Rep. King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    “The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” he said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets. And we’ve had demonstrations every week since then, sometimes different topics.”

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Listening to WaPo's video, some reporters were saying that the President announced the shooter had died. Waiting for confirmation on that.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Its kind of sick to me that this shooting gets a presidential response almost immediately where as two men died defending a muslim girl and that didn't get a staffer to offer a shitty tweet till three days later.
    It would have still gotten an intimidate response if it had been a bunch of democratic staffers and congresspeople being shot too. I mean yes it's still shitty but a shooting of "important people" is defacto going to get a louder response than shootings of "non-important" people.

    Also, I don't super care to speculate on what the political fallout of this will be when we still have basically no info about the shooter and Trump is literally doing his public statement right now. Like, we don't know!

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Senator King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    Not that the actual senators are much better but he's a Congressman, not a Senator from Iowa.

    Steve King is still human garbage though, has been since long before this.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Senator King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    yeeeep that's what I expected 100%

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Well I'll be damned. He did the right thing.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Senator King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    Not that the actual senators are much better but he's a Congressman, not a Senator from Iowa.

    Ah so he is. Sorry.

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I guess I'm just upset that because of this particular shooters political leaning its a problem. Again right winger kills two people in oregon not much of an issue, barely a blip on the cycle its a local story. A reportedly left winger shoots up some GOP congressman and now we have a problem? Are you kidding me? We've had a motherfucking problem. Sandy Hook, the pulse night club shootings, Dylan fucking Roof. I'd like to think they'd look at the ease of getting guns and do something about it, but the only thing I can see probably happening is more protections for congress people while everyday americans continue to die on the fucking streets because we don't have capitol hill police escorts.

    They already set the core of "thankfully the good guys" were there with the police. Rand Paul's statement. Not sure if this will exactly be a Brady Act 2.0 event. Given the current world and us climate I would say no.

    I am going to hug my GF all the more tonight I can tell you that.

    Not that most Trumpites would get it, but the nuance is that police should carry guns because they have specific and definable need, are specifically trained in thier use, and there are mechanisms to (theoretically) hold them accountable for their use.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Reports seem to be saying Scalise was hit in the hip so I assume he'll recover.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Well I'll be damned. He did the right thing.

    who?

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    Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    Shooter ran all the bases after shooting Scalise.

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    RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Senator King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    “The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” he said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets. And we’ve had demonstrations every week since then, sometimes different topics.”

    Steve King has always been a loon.

    And that narrative SHOULD be easy to demolish with pretty much anything from Giffords up through the train stabbing guy. Unfortunately, one group is way better at it than the other.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Waffen wrote: »
    Hmm. Hope this doesn't become the norm soon. We had that woman earlier this year try to run a GOP Congressmen off the road in her vehicle and now this. Nothing good comes from assassination attempts.

    Its not just the GOP there was a democrat running for congress that withdrew due to death threats.

    Also Gabby Gifford, etc. This isn't new, it's just new from the Democrat-leaning side.
    So It Goes wrote: »
    TL DR wrote: »
    It's important to decry this sort of thing because it's anathema to a functioning democracy and begets reciprocity (though the right doesn't need any excuse, as recent US history shows).

    We can hope for silver linings in the form of real progress on gun control or Scalise not returning to Congress, but the realpolitik is likely to be messy and thoroughly depressing.
    That's a pretty gross thing to say!

    It's a pretty gross situation! I don't know that there's anything to be gained from polite fiction at this time, though. The man's a monster, his party is already trying to leverage this to more efficiently rob millions of people of their healthcare, and I hope they fail. That's all I have to say about it.

    I really don't think that justifies calling it a silver lining if he dies of his wounds or is wounded badly enough he cannot return to Congress. You're better than that dude.

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    OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    Shooter ran all the bases after shooting Scalise.

    I don't want to make light of this inexcusable act, but if this is true it's some real dark comedy.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    WaPo confirming that Trump said the shooter died from his injuries. No other confirmation of that statement.

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    PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Its kind of sick to me that this shooting gets a presidential response almost immediately where as two men died defending a muslim girl and that didn't get a staffer to offer a shitty tweet till three days later.
    It would have still gotten an intimidate response if it had been a bunch of democratic staffers and congresspeople being shot too. I mean yes it's still shitty but a shooting of "important people" is defacto going to get a louder response than shootings of "non-important" people.

    Agreed. I mean it's true that this only got a quick response because it's "his people," but in this case "his people" is fellow government leadership. If it were the democratic congressional leadership it would also get a quick response, though perhaps of a slightly different flavor, because trump still gonna trump.

    I get where Preacher is coming from, but I think a comparison of response time to, say, portland and london, or portland and Orlando, etc, would better demonstrate his point (which I agree with). I don't know how much mileage you'll get argiuong that the government was faster to respond to an attack in high level government officials than any other incident.

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Rep. King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    “The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” he said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets. And we’ve had demonstrations every week since then, sometimes different topics.”

    Cite? I believe you, but I want to be 101% cwrtain this is real.

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    Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
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    So It Goes wrote: »
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Nobeard wrote: »
    I'm not a mod so the most I can do is ask: please let's not go into political discussion AT THIS TIME. Political fallout is important and we will do that part later. I have the same sour feeling in my gut about what Trump and GOP will do, but they ain't done nothing yet. More importantly, it's inappropriate to politicize this incident when there are victims freshly in the hospital. Let's be a little stoic for now.

    EDIT: If Trump et al politicize this too soon, then we shouldn't ignore that. Ugh.

    The right is already gearing up to make the left at fault, no matter what the actual facts might end up being, making up shit if it serves their position at this moment. They are always chopping at the bit, looking for an excuse to politicize everything and everything. We in fact have to do this as a matter of defense. If you want to get mad, get mad at them.

    It's fine to react to actual things actual people are saying about this.

    This is not a thread to discuss how awful Republicans are, though
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Pellaeon wrote: »
    Uh, er, why do we care what prison planet dude thinks? I'm sure he's a top notch internet detective, but if we want to see what the bowels of the Internet think about this we can just head to their respective sites.

    Could we at least wait until an official source releases some info on the guy?

    The spin machine is already up and running and getting talking heads on major news networks is why

    That dude isn't a pundit, he's a troll.

    Sure, he's a troll, Alex Jones is a troll, but I don't think infowars.com is irrelevant to the political zeitgeist, especially when shaping response to tragedy. That is their wheelhouse. I think it will be valuable to know in a day or so's time when an elected representative is repeating Watson's claims that they are sourced from a troll.

    Great, we can talk about it then. I'm not into dumping dumb shit people say on Twitter in here the minute it gets tweeted. Especially unsourced speculation.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    WaPo confirming that Trump said the shooter died from his injuries. No other confirmation of that statement.

    Shit.

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    NSDFRandNSDFRand FloridaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Raynaga wrote: »
    Honest first reaction? "That's horrible. Maybe they'll finally do something about gun control."

    Initial reports are indicating this was a 60+ year old out of work guy, not a Navy SEAL. They had an armed security detail. And all the witness reports I'm reading have them outgunned by Bob your neighbor.

    Maybe that makes me awful, I don't know. But I remember when Giffords happened and the litany of "If someone with a gun was there, nothing would have happened"

    I do hope everyone makes it through. I just also hope maybe, just maybe, the personal impact gives some weight to the idea that it isn't a great idea for anyone to be able to talk into a building and leave with something that can throw out 50-100 shots in a short time frame.

    This an argument that has been going since I started coming back here a few years ago and honestly it's become tiring because no one is going to change their minds because this issue is more about political stance.

    To sum up the hundreds of posts I've likely dedicated to the subject here:

    There already exist restrictions on who can and cannot legally purchase a firearm. And in states in which private sales exist knowingly transferring a firearm to a prohibited person is also a crime. A federal background check system, the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System), and in some states a state equivalent exists.

    "Assault Weapons", or semi auto rifles, account for less than .03 3% of firearms homicides. All long arms account for ~300, or 3%.

    According to FBI statistics and city UCRs (Uniform Crime Reports) I've dug through and posted here before, ~80% of firearm homicide victims and perpetrators have at least one misdemeanor conviction with 50% having at least one felony. Which makes sense considering the strong drug trade in the US which includes drug gangs murdering members of other gangs over territory, stolen product, revenge for previous killings, and the like.

    The majority, according to 2012 National Election Survey findings don't support the implementation of new gun restrictions. Only 65% of self identified Democrats, for example, support further gun restriction. Self identified independents are closer to 40% for 60% against, and self identified Republicans are almost the mirror image of Democrats.

    Firearm suicides, which make up 2/3 of firearm deaths, represent only a fraction of total suicide attempts. Firearm suicide just happens to have the highest success rate while representing only a fraction of suicide events (IIRC estimates were 400,000 attempts annually when looking at hospitalizations where suicide is explicitly stated as the cause of injury or inferred to be due to circumstances, firearm suicide has ~95% success rate but accounts for 20,000 of these 400,000 attempts)
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    I guess I'm just upset that because of this particular shooters political leaning its a problem. Again right winger kills two people in oregon not much of an issue, barely a blip on the cycle its a local story. A reportedly left winger shoots up some GOP congressman and now we have a problem? Are you kidding me? We've had a motherfucking problem. Sandy Hook, the pulse night club shootings, Dylan fucking Roof. I'd like to think they'd look at the ease of getting guns and do something about it, but the only thing I can see probably happening is more protections for congress people while everyday americans continue to die on the fucking streets because we don't have capitol hill police escorts.

    They already set the core of "thankfully the good guys" were there with the police. Rand Paul's statement. Not sure if this will exactly be a Brady Act 2.0 event. Given the current world and us climate I would say no.

    I am going to hug my GF all the more tonight I can tell you that.

    Not that most Trumpites would get it, but the nuance is that police should carry guns because they have specific and definable need, are specifically trained in thier use, and there are mechanisms to (theoretically) hold them accountable for their use.

    Someone who disagrees with the idea that only Law Enforcement should have access to firearms isn't necessarily a "Trumpite". According to 2012 NES that would make 35% of self identified Democrats "Trumpites".

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Rep. King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    “The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” he said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets. And we’ve had demonstrations every week since then, sometimes different topics.”

    Cite? I believe you, but I want to be 101% cwrtain this is real.

    It was in the WaPo article.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    WaPo news alert confirming that President Trump has confirmed the shooter is dead from injuries

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_axliveblog-835a:prime-time/promo&utm_term=.39150446fc93
    President Trump announced Wednesday morning that the gunman who opened fire at a GOP congressional baseball team practice, identified by law enforcement as James T. Hodgkinson III, “has now died from his injuries.”

    Trump spoke from the Diplomatic Room of the White House about what he termed a “very, very, very brutal assault.”


    fucking

    fuck

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    Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Note that most of my leftist friends are cheering, liking the shooter to John Brown.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Shooter ran all the bases after shooting Scalise.

    If this is a joke, it's wildly inappropriate.

    If it's actually a claim someone's making, source it. Last warning.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017


    I wonder how Rand Paul feels about this 2016 tweet now that he's lived it.

    Not justifying the shooting which is awful, but you cannot deny that the man's own language impacts this.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    WaPo news alert confirming that President Trump has confirmed the shooter is dead from injuries

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_axliveblog-835a:prime-time/promo&utm_term=.39150446fc93
    President Trump announced Wednesday morning that the gunman who opened fire at a GOP congressional baseball team practice, identified by law enforcement as James T. Hodgkinson III, “has now died from his injuries.”

    Trump spoke from the Diplomatic Room of the White House about what he termed a “very, very, very brutal assault.”


    fucking

    fuck

    I'm waiting for independent confirmation. Remember, the Pres watches Fox News, who was reporting the shooter dead earlier.

    However, I have to give him credit for the rest of his comments. From WaPo:
    Trump issues a call for unity, says the world is praying for Scalise

    President Trump called for national unity following Wednesday morning’s shooting at a congressional baseball practice, saying the nation and indeed the world is praying for the recovery of wounded Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and other victims.

    “We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our nation’s capital is here because, above all, they love our country,” Trump said. He added, “We are strongest when we are unified and when we work together for the common good.”

    In brief remarks delivered from the Diplomatic Room at the White House, Trump said Scalise was “shot and badly wounded,” but is recovering in the hospital and is in stable condition. The president said he spoke with Scalise’s wife, Jennifer, and pledged his full support.

    “Congressman Scalise is a friend, and a very good friend,” Trump said. “He’s a patriot and he’s a fighter. He will recover from his assault — and Steve, I want you to know that you have the prayers not only of the entire city behind you but of an entire nation and, frankly, the entire world. America is praying for you and America is praying for all of the victims of this terrible shooting.”

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Nobeard wrote: »
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    Rep. King (R-Iowa)

    “America has been divided,” said Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked. “And the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.”

    “The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” he said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets. And we’ve had demonstrations every week since then, sometimes different topics.”

    Cite? I believe you, but I want to be 101% cwrtain this is real.

    It was in the WaPo article.

    Thanks. Now that it is Official and in the Public Record, I'd like to respond:

    Fuck. That. Miserable. Goose.

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    CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Note that most of my leftist friends are cheering, liking the shooter to John Brown.

    Ugh. I've heard this on a different site, too. One that I may have to rethink visiting. Hateful.

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    Edith UpwardsEdith Upwards Registered User regular
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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    WaPo news alert confirming that President Trump has confirmed the shooter is dead from injuries

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_axliveblog-835a:prime-time/promo&utm_term=.39150446fc93
    President Trump announced Wednesday morning that the gunman who opened fire at a GOP congressional baseball team practice, identified by law enforcement as James T. Hodgkinson III, “has now died from his injuries.”

    Trump spoke from the Diplomatic Room of the White House about what he termed a “very, very, very brutal assault.”


    fucking

    fuck

    I'm waiting for independent confirmation. Remember, the Pres watches Fox News, who was reporting the shooter dead earlier.

    However, I have to give him credit for the rest of his comments. From WaPo:
    Trump issues a call for unity, says the world is praying for Scalise

    President Trump called for national unity following Wednesday morning’s shooting at a congressional baseball practice, saying the nation and indeed the world is praying for the recovery of wounded Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and other victims.

    “We may have our differences, but we do well in times like these to remember that everyone who serves in our nation’s capital is here because, above all, they love our country,” Trump said. He added, “We are strongest when we are unified and when we work together for the common good.”

    In brief remarks delivered from the Diplomatic Room at the White House, Trump said Scalise was “shot and badly wounded,” but is recovering in the hospital and is in stable condition. The president said he spoke with Scalise’s wife, Jennifer, and pledged his full support.

    “Congressman Scalise is a friend, and a very good friend,” Trump said. “He’s a patriot and he’s a fighter. He will recover from his assault — and Steve, I want you to know that you have the prayers not only of the entire city behind you but of an entire nation and, frankly, the entire world. America is praying for you and America is praying for all of the victims of this terrible shooting.”

    those are surprisingly proper and decent remarks

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'd have an easier time believing Trump's unity remarks if he won't probably within the hour literally contradict them with his rhetoric. I mean fuck sake Steve King is already out there banging the "its the radical left" drum. People in glass houses.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Brutal JBrutal J Sorry! Sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry. Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    WaPo confirming that Trump said the shooter died from his injuries. No other confirmation of that statement.

    This is the kind of thing conspiracy theories are born from, at least if the main proponents of conspiracy theories weren't already up Trump asshole.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »


    I wonder how Rand Paul feels about this 2016 tweet now that he's lived it.

    Not justifying the shooting which is awful, but you cannot deny that the man's own language impacts this.

    irony is dead.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    WaPo also reporting that the shooter's home in IL is being searched by police

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/live-updates/public-safety/updates-shooting-at-congressional-baseball-practice-in-virginia/law-enforcement-arrive-at-suspects-illinois-home/
    11:49 AM
    June 14 by Emma Brown
    Law enforcement arrive at suspect’s Illinois home
    Washington Post contributor Kurt Shillinger sent this dispatch from Belleville, Ill.:

    Law enforcement officials arrived at a home associated with James T. Hodgkinson, who has been identified as the suspect in Wednesday morning’s shooting, shortly after 11:30 a.m. The home, in a rural community southeast of St. Louis, is a modest, rectangular clapboard farmhouse off a two-lane state highway amid fields of young corn and budding soy.

    Neighbors set up barricades shortly after The Washington Post arrived and refused people entry.

    One neighbor, a man in jeans and a straw cowboy hat who declined to give his name, said Hodgkinson has not lived at the house for “quite a while.” He said Hodgkinson’s wife left for work this morning as she always does.

    This makes it sound like he had personal shit going on too--hasn't been living in the same house as his wife for quite a while?

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