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    EnclaveofGnomesEnclaveofGnomes Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Owenashi wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
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    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    As far as Sylvanas
    from the Alliance perspective she definitely caved in the undercity. Scorched Earth tactics are what she was going for. Saurfang objected to her killing all the wounded and those that couldn't get out in time. "If we can't have it, no one will" seems to be her plan.

    Also screw her for being all "you come to take what is mine?" Fuck you lady that was ours way before y'all rolled in with green sludge everywhere

    She sets off more blight though. Jaina clearly got rid of some of it, you charge right through where it was.

    You charge through
    a big frozen cloud that can't hurt you because it's frozen. It's all foggy. I'm guessing it'll unfreeze and be pretty bad for the surrounding plants. Sylvanas let a LOT more loose into the undercity. Jaina's was a temp fix, not a permanent removal.

    What indication is there that it'll return to its previous state?
    Well, you can always visit the Glades and see it still there.
    Sylvanas sets off the cities self destruct sequence letting off more.

    If her magic hadn't cleared it far more of the land would still be plagued. You can see how much of it is covered vs now.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    To be fair, it's not like the terrain around Undercity was super well-off anyway.

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    KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    I mean, gases can be frozen and they return to gas when they thaw. As far as plot holes go the "why didn't Jaina just freeze out everything?" one is pretty easy to answer. Can they eventually clear it out? Maybe. Is it worth it? Probably not.

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Lordaeron Keep isn't really a solid place to take, in destroying it she just eliminated the only fortified position the horde could hold, leaving Gilneas and Stromgarde to be extremely well positioned to dominate the region.

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Hey, peoples who are still playing this a lot. I haven't really picked the game up in a month or two. What are the things I need to do quick this week before they go away in BfA? Is it just this Darkshore event and some thing in Silithus?

    Also is the event with the mount only available at 110? I can't remember if I ever got my orc up to that or not, but I'd like to get both mounts...

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    I believe it is 110 only yes.

    You only need to do the Darkshore stuff once, because its a dual mount. When you are on a horde character, you have the bat, when you are on an alliance character, you have the hippogryph.

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    The mount is available only until next tuesday. Get to it!

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    I believe it is 110 only yes.

    You only need to do the Darkshore stuff once, because its a dual mount. When you are on a horde character, you have the bat, when you are on an alliance character, you have the hippogryph.

    Oh snap, good enough. FWIW, my orc *might* be 110. I haven't played her in so long that I forget :D hahaha... if she isn't, she's probably like 107...
    Enc wrote: »
    The mount is available only until next tuesday. Get to it!

    Yeah I know, that's why I want to knock all this stuff out this weekend.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    I believe it is 110 only yes.

    You only need to do the Darkshore stuff once, because its a dual mount. When you are on a horde character, you have the bat, when you are on an alliance character, you have the hippogryph.

    Oh snap, good enough. FWIW, my orc *might* be 110. I haven't played her in so long that I forget :D hahaha... if she isn't, she's probably like 107...

    Personal favorite leveling method, just do the basic zone quests up to getting the Pillar for the zone. Ignore side-quest areas and getting to 110 will happen around the 4th zone.

    107 to 110 will take a couple days tops. If you have the money you could even speed it up with heirlooms, they can be upgraded to 110 now.

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    CiriraCirira IowaRegistered User regular
    Look for any invasions happening. Doing the WQs for those typically nets a level or 2. I went from 100-110 on my NE Druid in about a day and a half. I did two invasions, Val'Sharah, the Khadgar Light/Naaru questline in Draenei world, and the opening quest in Stormheim with one dungeon run of Darkheart Thicket.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Oh yeah Invasions scale they should be super doable and give a lot of XP.

    Also, if you ever plan to unlock your class mount, you may want to do Val'sharah at minimum. Certain classes need the Tears of Elune to progress at a certain point.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    Invasion WQs are not available if you don’t have a 110 on your account.

    Discovered this the hard way while or I was trying to get my other half’s hunter to 110 and was trying to abuse the DMF buff for an Aszuna invasion.

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    I believe it is 110 only yes.

    You only need to do the Darkshore stuff once, because its a dual mount. When you are on a horde character, you have the bat, when you are on an alliance character, you have the hippogryph.

    Oh snap, good enough. FWIW, my orc *might* be 110. I haven't played her in so long that I forget :D hahaha... if she isn't, she's probably like 107...

    Personal favorite leveling method, just do the basic zone quests up to getting the Pillar for the zone. Ignore side-quest areas and getting to 110 will happen around the 4th zone.

    107 to 110 will take a couple days tops. If you have the money you could even speed it up with heirlooms, they can be upgraded to 110 now.

    Yeah I'm pretty sure I have all the relevant heirlooms upgraded (or at least a lot of them). I think I was doing invasions for awhile for levels too. Like I said, she might actually be 110 or really close, it's been a stupid long time and I have a lot of alts I remember I was leveling up at once :P So it's hard to remember what state each one was in (other than I know my priest got to 110).

    Actually now that you mention it though, I don't think I ever got my owl on my priest, even though I did like 99.99999% of the steps required -_- I need to go back and do that...
    Nobody wrote: »
    Invasion WQs are not available if you don’t have a 110 on your account.

    Discovered this the hard way while or I was trying to get my other half’s hunter to 110 and was trying to abuse the DMF buff for an Aszuna invasion.

    My Rogue has been 110 for awhile though, so that's fine for me. Though I imagine her gear is a bit behind ATM. I kinda stopped playing with the last raid came out. I should probably run through that one time on LFR while people are actually still doing LFR :P

    Edit: Wait, I'm an idiot. Companion app will tell me all their levels... it's been so long since I logged into it I forgot about it :D And of course, now it's downloading some update, probably from two months ago :P

    Edit 2: Oh, lol. So uh, my orc is level 102 :P I guess my Shaman and Hunter are the ones that are at 107 :P Druid at 108... Whelp, probably not doing Horde side. Oh well.

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    Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    So thinking about buying the BFA expansion.

    Yea or Nay?

    also any reason to buy before the release beyond some mounts and achieves?

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    So thinking about buying the BFA expansion.

    Yea or Nay?

    also any reason to buy before the release beyond some mounts and achieves?

    Pretty sure you can do the Darkshore mount without BFA. And usually the collectors addition with the pets etc... you can still get after launch.

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    The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    if you want to do the pre-expansion quest chain you need to do it before launch

    otherwise, not particularly

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    So thinking about buying the BFA expansion.

    Yea or Nay?

    also any reason to buy before the release beyond some mounts and achieves?

    Pretty sure you can do the Darkshore mount without BFA. And usually the collectors addition with the pets etc... you can still get after launch.

    You can, I specifically remember seeing a clarification about that.

    Edit: Waaah, there are missions that award Wakening Essences? I have been gone a long time...

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    CiriraCirira IowaRegistered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    So thinking about buying the BFA expansion.

    Yea or Nay?

    also any reason to buy before the release beyond some mounts and achieves?

    Pretty sure you can do the Darkshore mount without BFA. And usually the collectors addition with the pets etc... you can still get after launch.

    You can, I specifically remember seeing a clarification about that.

    Edit: Waaah, there are missions that award Wakening Essences? I have been gone a long time...

    They replaced most of the WQ and Missions with Wakening Essence ones since the expansion is basically over.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    So my main is making gold at a really stupid rate and I'm not necessarily trying. That said I decided to accept one of those spam guild invites (my old guild disbanded), work up the rep over a couple hours, buy the heirloom shit I needed, and bailed. I can use you too, spamming fucks.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    I believe it is 110 only yes.

    You only need to do the Darkshore stuff once, because its a dual mount. When you are on a horde character, you have the bat, when you are on an alliance character, you have the hippogryph.

    Oh snap, good enough. FWIW, my orc *might* be 110. I haven't played her in so long that I forget :D hahaha... if she isn't, she's probably like 107...

    Personal favorite leveling method, just do the basic zone quests up to getting the Pillar for the zone. Ignore side-quest areas and getting to 110 will happen around the 4th zone.

    107 to 110 will take a couple days tops. If you have the money you could even speed it up with heirlooms, they can be upgraded to 110 now.

    Yeah I'm pretty sure I have all the relevant heirlooms upgraded (or at least a lot of them). I think I was doing invasions for awhile for levels too. Like I said, she might actually be 110 or really close, it's been a stupid long time and I have a lot of alts I remember I was leveling up at once :P So it's hard to remember what state each one was in (other than I know my priest got to 110).

    Actually now that you mention it though, I don't think I ever got my owl on my priest, even though I did like 99.99999% of the steps required -_- I need to go back and do that...
    Nobody wrote: »
    Invasion WQs are not available if you don’t have a 110 on your account.

    Discovered this the hard way while or I was trying to get my other half’s hunter to 110 and was trying to abuse the DMF buff for an Aszuna invasion.

    My Rogue has been 110 for awhile though, so that's fine for me. Though I imagine her gear is a bit behind ATM. I kinda stopped playing with the last raid came out. I should probably run through that one time on LFR while people are actually still doing LFR :P

    Edit: Wait, I'm an idiot. Companion app will tell me all their levels... it's been so long since I logged into it I forgot about it :D And of course, now it's downloading some update, probably from two months ago :P

    Edit 2: Oh, lol. So uh, my orc is level 102 :P I guess my Shaman and Hunter are the ones that are at 107 :P Druid at 108... Whelp, probably not doing Horde side. Oh well.

    Wait, if you have an Alliance 110, you can do the event on the rogue and get both mounts anyways. You don't need to do the event on both sides for both mounts.

    You just won't get to experience it the event from the other side (except via YT).

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    This is not the case. After that cutscene, when you're inside the castle, Alliance players can walk back outside the hole in the wall and /dance in the middle of the battlefield, which is clear - no residual frosty fog, or blight, or anything. Looks the same as it does before the blight comes out.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    This is not the case. After that cutscene, when you're inside the castle, Alliance players can walk back outside the hole in the wall and /dance in the middle of the battlefield, which is clear - no residual frosty fog, or blight, or anything. Looks the same as it does before the blight comes out.

    What if you go back after the scenario is over? It is certainly the case in the cutscene.
    Perhaps it dissipates after she freezes it. Either way, not an easy fix for the exploded undercity like that image keeps implying.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    This is not the case. After that cutscene, when you're inside the castle, Alliance players can walk back outside the hole in the wall and /dance in the middle of the battlefield, which is clear - no residual frosty fog, or blight, or anything. Looks the same as it does before the blight comes out.

    What if you go back after the scenario is over? It is certainly the case in the cutscene.
    Perhaps it dissipates after she freezes it. Either way, not an easy fix for the exploded undercity like that image keeps implying.

    If you go back afterwards, Sylvanas has released more per the end of the scenario, so of course it's back. But in between that second release and Jaina's ice nova, the area is completely cleared. No frosty fog, no gas.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i'm waiting for the edit where instead of jaina, the screaming sky cowboy comes out of the clouds

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I just did a Legion dungeon for the first time at level 108 and uh... that gave shit-all for experience. Is that a thing they killed off? Dungeon XP being the bomb?

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    FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
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    soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    As far as Sylvanas
    from the Alliance perspective she definitely caved in the undercity. Scorched Earth tactics are what she was going for. Saurfang objected to her killing all the wounded and those that couldn't get out in time. "If we can't have it, no one will" seems to be her plan.

    Also screw her for being all "you come to take what is mine?" Fuck you lady that was ours way before y'all rolled in with green sludge everywhere

    Idk, I blame Arthas more for the fall of Lordaeron personally. She was just picking up the pieces of a shit situation.

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    soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    Goblins and Worgen need model updates before they need alt races. On the goblin model in particular, try to avoid looking at their feet.

    gobblin and worgen still look pretty amazing to me, with the glaring exception of worgen in human form who are low-geometry golems.

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    soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I just did a Legion dungeon for the first time at level 108 and uh... that gave shit-all for experience. Is that a thing they killed off? Dungeon XP being the bomb?

    Yeah, it felt like dungeon xp falls off a cliff after 100 so I just quested to 110, only doing dungeons for quests. I even got most of my gear through world quests, dungeons seem pretty unreliable for gear too. But I never got into mythic plus or whatever so idk.

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    NobodyNobody Registered User regular
    The best part of the Horde version of the Scenario is watching half the raid run back into the blight and die during the fighting retreat sequence.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    last Mythic Aggramar kill of the expansion, the 27th overall, and finally Taeshalach drops. And titanforges to 255 too, which makes it 5 ilvls higher than my artifact weapon.

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    JepheryJephery Registered User regular
    edited August 2018
    Still on the Blight
    The silly thing about Jaina's frost nova working on the Blight is that it was a weapon they made to use against the Lich King.

    You know, the one that lives in the frozen north and has frost as a main spell school.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    last Mythic Aggramar kill of the expansion, the 27th overall, and finally Taeshalach drops. And titanforges to 255 too, which makes it 5 ilvls higher than my artifact weapon.

    Don't take it near Silithus... it could cause problems.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Jephery wrote: »
    Still on the Blight
    The silly thing about Jaina's frost nova working on the Blight is that is was a weapon they made to use against the Lich King.

    You know, the one that lives in the frozen north and has frost as a main spell school.

    that blight was classically more gloopy and slimey, while sylvanas has refined it into a more gaseous airborne pathogen

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    soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Does anyone else feel like battle for Lordaeron might have worked really well as a pvp scenario, even if who "won"/"lost" each skirmish was pre-scripted?

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    soylenthsoylenth Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2018
    I tried to make a human female mage because jaina was so cool but ... nope! still hate virtually all of their animations. May try again later with a Kul Tiran woman or maybe a female dwarf. Also, I've really been into my nightborne characters. I think they fit the horde well. Plus, my nightborn marksman hunter looks much more like sylvannus than my undead hunter so there's that.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Jephery wrote: »
    Still on the Blight
    The silly thing about Jaina's frost nova working on the Blight is that is was a weapon they made to use against the Lich King.

    You know, the one that lives in the frozen north and has frost as a main spell school.

    that blight was classically more gloopy and slimey, while sylvanas has refined it into a more gaseous airborne pathogen

    Wouldn't that dissipate then?

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    This is not the case. After that cutscene, when you're inside the castle, Alliance players can walk back outside the hole in the wall and /dance in the middle of the battlefield, which is clear - no residual frosty fog, or blight, or anything. Looks the same as it does before the blight comes out.

    What if you go back after the scenario is over? It is certainly the case in the cutscene.
    Perhaps it dissipates after she freezes it. Either way, not an easy fix for the exploded undercity like that image keeps implying.

    If you go back afterwards, Sylvanas has released more per the end of the scenario, so of course it's back. But in between that second release and Jaina's ice nova, the area is completely cleared. No frosty fog, no gas.

    I attribute that more to the developers not programming in frozen gas, since most players won't abandon the scenario to run backwards. Regardless, my point still stands.
    There's no reason to assume Jaina can just poof it all out of the undercity.

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    EnclaveofGnomesEnclaveofGnomes Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    last Mythic Aggramar kill of the expansion, the 27th overall, and finally Taeshalach drops. And titanforges to 255 too, which makes it 5 ilvls higher than my artifact weapon.

    I've been madly running all my 2-hander users through since coming back...it seems pretty rare.

    And it looks so cool!
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    You can see in the cutscene that Jaina
    Only temporarily froze that blight. It's all cloudy and hanging in the air. I'm guessing it eventually unfreezes and becomes an issue again. Freezing the entire city is probably out of the question. I didn't have a problem with it.

    This is not the case. After that cutscene, when you're inside the castle, Alliance players can walk back outside the hole in the wall and /dance in the middle of the battlefield, which is clear - no residual frosty fog, or blight, or anything. Looks the same as it does before the blight comes out.

    What if you go back after the scenario is over? It is certainly the case in the cutscene.
    Perhaps it dissipates after she freezes it. Either way, not an easy fix for the exploded undercity like that image keeps implying.

    If you go back afterwards, Sylvanas has released more per the end of the scenario, so of course it's back. But in between that second release and Jaina's ice nova, the area is completely cleared. No frosty fog, no gas.

    I attribute that more to the developers not programming in frozen gas, since most players won't abandon the scenario to run backwards. Regardless, my point still stands.
    There's no reason to assume Jaina can just poof it all out of the undercity.

    Except that she removed it before. There's no reason to assume it wasn't removed when all evidence suggests it was.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    Jephery wrote: »
    Still on the Blight
    The silly thing about Jaina's frost nova working on the Blight is that is was a weapon they made to use against the Lich King.

    You know, the one that lives in the frozen north and has frost as a main spell school.

    that blight was classically more gloopy and slimey, while sylvanas has refined it into a more gaseous airborne pathogen

    Wouldn't that dissipate then?

    Don't Worry About It: the answer to all lore inquiries

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