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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
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    ArteenArteen Adept ValeRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    What song is he playing? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Arteen wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    What song is he playing? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U

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    BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    the fact that it turned out to be deeply plagiarised and went unnoticed for three entire games is wild to me

    (the themes that replaced it were still very excellent though)

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    All I can hear in that kazoo is Danny Boy. Even though I know it's not.



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    NosfNosf Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    All I can hear in that kazoo is Danny Boy. Even though I know it's not.



    the pipes, the pipes are calling

    Danny Boy is what I heard.

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    McRhynoMcRhyno Registered User regular
    the fact that it turned out to be deeply plagiarised and went unnoticed for three entire games is wild to me

    (the themes that replaced it were still very excellent though)

    From what song?

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    McRhyno wrote: »
    the fact that it turned out to be deeply plagiarised and went unnoticed for three entire games is wild to me

    (the themes that replaced it were still very excellent though)

    From what song?

    this one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JL4JXEv-RY

    it's pretty on the nose when you hear it, especially as a comparison

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYQQ1PZHF8U

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Holy...

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    GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Yeah I had no idea. That’s wild.

    Nice little piece of trivia though!

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    SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    The even stranger part is that the first time Kojima was confronted with this, is on film.
    It's an interview with a Russian game mag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    There is a game that was discussed years ago on the Beastcast when Austin Walker was still on the show that involved a physical book that had puzzles in it you needed to solve with an iPad app and I can not remember the name of it and it is slowly driving me mad.

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    RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    There is a game that was discussed years ago on the Beastcast when Austin Walker was still on the show that involved a physical book that had puzzles in it you needed to solve with an iPad app and I can not remember the name of it and it is slowly driving me mad.
    Are you sure you’re not thinking of Year Walk? That was an iPhone game that also had an iPad component if you had access to both.

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    NosfNosf Registered User regular
    Sounds like that book / wand thing from Sony years ago.

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    RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Now that I think of it, Patrick was the one who raved about Year Walk and Device 6.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Year Walk and Device 6 were rad!

    But this is something else, a physical book that leveraged the camera on the iPad.

    Unless this was all just some fever dream.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    There was the Fatal Frame with a book for 3DS. It sucked though.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Nosf wrote: »
    Sounds like that book / wand thing from Sony years ago.
    This thing, I'm guessing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMATzMV6Qz0

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    RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    Nosf wrote: »
    Sounds like that book / wand thing from Sony years ago.
    This thing, I'm guessing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMATzMV6Qz0
    I don’t think Austin would by hyping up a PS3 product that is related to Harry Potter.

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    RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Year Walk and Device 6 were rad!

    But this is something else, a physical book that leveraged the camera on the iPad.

    Unless this was all just some fever dream.
    Anyway, based on what you described, is it this?
    https://journal29.com/

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Not that Harry Potter book or journal 29. Though journal 29 seems rad and I may go buy that.

    It had like... a bit of a frost and lost tech feel. Sorry for dragging you all down the lanes of my horrible memory.

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    OrivonOrivon Happy Fun Ball They/ThemRegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Not that Harry Potter book or journal 29. Though journal 29 seems rad and I may go buy that.

    It had like... a bit of a frost and lost tech feel. Sorry for dragging you all down the lanes of my horrible memory.

    I think it's The Ice-Bound Concordance. Episode 36 of the beastcast is tagged with it, but I haven't listened to make sure it's the game you're thinking of.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Orivon wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Not that Harry Potter book or journal 29. Though journal 29 seems rad and I may go buy that.

    It had like... a bit of a frost and lost tech feel. Sorry for dragging you all down the lanes of my horrible memory.

    I think it's The Ice-Bound Concordance. Episode 36 of the beastcast is tagged with it, but I haven't listened to make sure it's the game you're thinking of.

    That’s the one! Thank you!!

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    Nosf wrote: »
    Sounds like that book / wand thing from Sony years ago.
    This thing, I'm guessing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMATzMV6Qz0
    I don’t think Austin would by hyping up a PS3 product that is related to Harry Potter.
    Why, did he have beef with that franchise before the author's shittery became known?

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    GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    Glal wrote: »
    Glal wrote: »
    Nosf wrote: »
    Sounds like that book / wand thing from Sony years ago.
    This thing, I'm guessing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMATzMV6Qz0
    I don’t think Austin would by hyping up a PS3 product that is related to Harry Potter.
    Why, did he have beef with that franchise before the author's shittery became known?

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    I mean, shit, once the pop culture shine wore off there's some uncomfortable shit staring everyone right in our faces regarding the slave cast that are so brainwashed they'd rather say slaves to abusive masters than be free, and the only characters who are pro-freedom are treated as kooks or naive.

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    Stabbity StyleStabbity Style He/Him | Warning: Mothership Reporting Kennewick, WARegistered User regular
    I mean, shit, once the pop culture shine wore off there's some uncomfortable shit staring everyone right in our faces regarding the slave cast that are so brainwashed they'd rather say slaves to abusive masters than be free, and the only characters who are pro-freedom are treated as kooks or naive.

    Not to mention everyone being cool with there being a Nazi house at Hogwarts. You've got the smart house, the brave house, the normal house, and the Nazi house.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    I mean, shit, once the pop culture shine wore off there's some uncomfortable shit staring everyone right in our faces regarding the slave cast that are so brainwashed they'd rather say slaves to abusive masters than be free, and the only characters who are pro-freedom are treated as kooks or naive.

    Not to mention everyone being cool with there being a Nazi house at Hogwarts. You've got the smart house, the brave house, the normal house, and the Nazi house.

    Yeah, it was really unrealistic, something like that would obviously never happen in real life.

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    SanderJK wrote: »
    The even stranger part is that the first time Kojima was confronted with this, is on film.
    It's an interview with a Russian game mag.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

    this is fucking wild

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    DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Arteen wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    What song is he playing? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U

    The themes of the games deal a lot with purposeful, manufactured copies. Gregson-Williams did the soundtrack and composed that song, so I am guessing he was told to do that, does he has a history of pulling from other stuff? I don't usually give the benefit of the doubt to kojima, but like........ seems pretty much exactly what he would do.

    MGSV starts with a cover of a song in a game chock full of licensed originals as direct foreshadowing.

    I was kind of bummed to watch the GB guys fumble and go "why is THAT song a cover?!?!?!?!?" over and over. I thought it was pretty clear.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Arteen wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    What song is he playing? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U

    The themes of the games deal a lot with purposeful, manufactured copies. Gregson-Williams did the soundtrack and composed that song, so I am guessing he was told to do that, does he has a history of pulling from other stuff? I don't usually give the benefit of the doubt to kojima, but like........ seems pretty much exactly what he would do.

    MGSV starts with a cover of a song in a game chock full of licensed originals as direct foreshadowing.

    I was kind of bummed to watch the GB guys fumble and go "why is THAT song a cover?!?!?!?!?" over and over. I thought it was pretty clear.

    if the MGS composer was told to do that without getting permission from the original composer (which it sounds like they didn't), this isn't kojima being a secret genius and using real-world actions to enhance his in-game themes, it's just him being an asshole

    (also if I've got my facts right, we're talking about the original MGS main theme, which Gregson-Williams didn't compose, he just arranged it for MGS2. so whatever happened he wouldn't have been directly involved anyway)

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    GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    Arteen wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »

    What song is he playing? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiPon8lr48U

    The themes of the games deal a lot with purposeful, manufactured copies. Gregson-Williams did the soundtrack and composed that song, so I am guessing he was told to do that, does he has a history of pulling from other stuff? I don't usually give the benefit of the doubt to kojima, but like........ seems pretty much exactly what he would do.

    MGSV starts with a cover of a song in a game chock full of licensed originals as direct foreshadowing.

    I was kind of bummed to watch the GB guys fumble and go "why is THAT song a cover?!?!?!?!?" over and over. I thought it was pretty clear.

    Tappi Iwase is the original offender, not Gregson-Williams?

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Those sound similar but I could definitely see that being inspiration and not plagiarism.

    Also I never picked up on the MGS V "this song is a cover but the rest aren't" thing. That's fun.

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    Snake GandhiSnake Gandhi Des Moines, IARegistered User regular

    I was kind of bummed to watch the GB guys fumble and go "why is THAT song a cover?!?!?!?!?" over and over. I thought it was pretty clear.
    I distinctly remember Brad making that very point during GotY for MSGV for Best Music.

    (It stuck in my mind because Drew was still playing V so he had to step out briefly just so Brad could make said point.)

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I mean, shit, once the pop culture shine wore off there's some uncomfortable shit staring everyone right in our faces regarding the slave cast that are so brainwashed they'd rather say slaves to abusive masters than be free, and the only characters who are pro-freedom are treated as kooks or naive.

    Not to mention everyone being cool with there being a Nazi house at Hogwarts. You've got the smart house, the brave house, the normal house, and the Nazi house.

    Also, the Arthurian tropes kind of don't interact well with the themes of the later books.

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    GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Those sound similar but I could definitely see that being inspiration and not plagiarism.
    Generally the distinction is whether or not you like the new work.

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    Hello my friends, some news:

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Hopefully he can still spend time at CES to give us the yearly Fridge Update.

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