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Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, [Movie]

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    GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Yeah, kinda hard to root for a group called the Losers Club when you spend the whole time thinking "cripes, these kids are such obnoxious losers, it would be nice if some random spaceclown passerby would eat them and put them out of my misery".

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

    Lepus is up there, but its no Hell Comes to Frogtown.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
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    NosfNosf Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    I remember seeing Killer Klowns back in the day a few times, a friend showed it to me and then I mentioned it to some other friends who wanted to see it as a result. It was a fun little flick. The shadow puppet scene is probably the best and most memorable. It had a fairly katchy theme too.

    Nosf on
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    Firefly, but Korean.

    And don't none of y'all come in here telling me Firefly was inspired by some Korean anime.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Firefly, but Korean.

    And don't none of y'all come in here telling me Firefly was inspired by some Korean anime.

    Nah, but Firefly is basically if Han Solo had a show, and star wars is very heavily influenced by samurai movies, so in a way you can still thank Asia for it if you want to

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    reVerse wrote: »
    Firefly, but Korean.

    And don't none of y'all come in here telling me Firefly was inspired by some Korean anime.

    It even had the Fruity Oaty Bar subliminal message.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Killer clowns from outer space scared me as a kid, but in a fun way. I knew it was silly, but as a kid, there were some scary scenes

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Speaking of movies from my childhood. Showed the girlfriend the toy. She loved it! I thought it held up surprisingly well. The plot sounds bad but its executed really well and they even take on the klan at the end! I thought it was gonna be cringy but it was still really good.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Happy Death Day was a good movie! Standard, but refreshing, it knows how to have just enough awareness without falling into the usual traps, and even when it has to follow the standard rules (the killer is too obvious) it tries to throw enough swerves to keep the third act compelling. I'd say there were a few too many eye rolls with the lead and the love interest sort of being too generic (slutty bitchy sorority girl learns lessons and Nice Guy (TM) gets girl) but the actress was actually really good and sold the role, as though she's a likable Blake Lively a dab. Plus in terms of moviemaking using a Groundhog Day approach for a horror movie is quite cost effective, they used that Loyola Nola campus to great effect and basically getting a good chunk of work knocked out in a day or two, and that stretched the budget to just look good. BlumHouse knows what they're doing when it comes to making actual movies (their streaming stuff on Hulu, not so much).
    Poor asian sorority girl sitting on the steps, all she wants is for you to wave back and then a body lands in front of her, I was kind of hoping she was the killer only because she just wanted Tree to wave back



    Probably going to watch the second one tonight or tomorrow, but if it holds up these movies along with Ready or Not can be a solid foundation for rebuilding good B-horror movies without using spookyghost child singing jumpscares.

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Happy Death Day 2U is not nearly as good as the first one, unfortunately.

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    Ya it follows the standard route of trying to explain things likr sequels often do and it falls kind of flat. Its not bad, but nowhere near as good as the first

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Speaking of bad sequels, here's two five minute long horror short movies: Siren Head and Siren Head Returns.

    The first one is pretty good. It starts with a bit of a mystery and then has a really cool first look at the monster. Really nice for a five minute thing.

    The second one starts out terrible from the get-go, with a radio announcer explaining stuff. By the 35 second mark, I knew this one was an absolutely zero effort project (if you watch it, see if you can spot why). Sure, it's more action-y and there's more of the monster in it, but none of the creativity of the first one.

    A perfect microcosm of the usual horror movie franchise trajectory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrkB1HVpz5k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSK4fPxU_28

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    Smaug6Smaug6 Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    I got the early-adoption discount on HBO Max so I finally watched IT: Chapter 2 as well

    I wasn’t crazy about the first film; I strongly dislike King’s work even if I do kinda like him as a person, but I felt that even though it didn’t try as hard as it should have, the first film at least mostly pulled off the Stand By Me/Stranger Things vibe it was shooting for, which is a decent feat for a film that has so many characters and stories it’s trying to juggle.

    The second film’s problems are myriad, but most are rooted in the compressed story that for some reason thinks it’s a good idea to dissolve all the relationships from the first and start over again. The lead up to dealing with Pennywise is virtually nonexistent, so instead of horror and dread, the atmosphere is more . . . thriller? They could have gone with something more languid and tonal, creating a story that folds the lore of the town and the evil within into the reappearance of the clown, but nothing nearly so interesting happens.

    What breaks the film, however, is the way it pinballs through a dozen different tones not just from scene to scene, but even within scenes; jump scares and slapstick and maudlin melodrama all get globbed together like pop rocks and peanut butter. Bill Hader is having fun and I think he’s the only one who realizes he’s in a bad movie.

    The best horror taps into primal and existential fears, or serves as a parable; IT:2 never asks a question more curious than, “What if an evil space clown happened?”

    To be fair, that question. without reservation or qualification, is scary as fuck

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
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    reVerse wrote: »
    Speaking of bad sequels, here's two five minute long horror short movies: Siren Head and Siren Head Returns.

    The first one is pretty good. It starts with a bit of a mystery and then has a really cool first look at the monster. Really nice for a five minute thing.

    The second one starts out terrible from the get-go, with a radio announcer explaining stuff. By the 35 second mark, I knew this one was an absolutely zero effort project (if you watch it, see if you can spot why). Sure, it's more action-y and there's more of the monster in it, but none of the creativity of the first one.

    A perfect microcosm of the usual horror movie franchise trajectory.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrkB1HVpz5k

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSK4fPxU_28

    personally i prefer this one
    https://youtu.be/p0JrNTGUvu8

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

    Lepus is up there, but its no Hell Comes to Frogtown.

    Hell Comes to Frogtown isn't scary at all, though.

    It does, however, win the prize for most laboured pun-as-title (which is quite good), and of course the dubious prize of 'definitely picked the wrong woman to be the love interest" - the tough gunner was, like, right there!

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Sonequa Martin-Green is officially part of the family. "The Walking Dead" and "Star Trek: Discovery" actor has joined the "Fast & Furious" franchise — by way of video game. She plays new character Vienna Cole in "Fast & Furious: Crossroads," the upcoming racing/action roleplaying game.

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    I went from having no idea this game was a thing to being extremely curious if it reviews well and if it's considered an official part of the Fast & Furious canon.

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    She's great in Walking Dead. That's certainly turned my interest from 0 to 60.

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    southwicksouthwick Registered User regular
    Eurovision is worth a watch. Made for a nice date night movie.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Happy Death Day 2U was fun and I think worth seeing. The best thing about it is that it doesn't try to just do the same thing again.

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Well this is a mind-fuck of a trailer. Eternal Sunshine is one of my favorite films, so I'm sure it'll be a ride to say the least.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDTg62vsV4U

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    My takeaway from that trailer is that Jessie Buckley feels like someone I'm gonna see in more stuff and I think I'm good with that.

    And that obviously the boyfriend isn't gonna be normal, because Jesse Plemons.

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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    Killer kclowns from outer space scared me as a kid, but in a fun way. I knew it was silly, but as a kid, there were some scary scenes

    To use the current terminology, that movie is extremely problematic, as is mot entertainment from that time.

    Saw it for the first time thanks to you klowns. I get it's playing on tropes, but the shitty cop
    calling her a 'tramp,' and the boyfriend basically using player (whatever it's called) moves to force her to go check out the big top
    did not seem like meta jokes.

    The costuming, props, and set design was amazing, though. Really committed to the theme all the way through.

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Grislo wrote: »
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

    Lepus is up there, but its no Hell Comes to Frogtown.

    Hell Comes to Frogtown isn't scary at all, though.

    Neither is Night of the Lepus, unless you already have a bunny phobia. Only thing remotely unnerving in Lepus for me is how tight Dr. McCoy's pants are. After leaving westerns did DeForest Kelly ever have a pair of slacks that fit?!

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    No matter where you go...there you are.
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    GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    Grislo wrote: »
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

    Lepus is up there, but its no Hell Comes to Frogtown.

    Hell Comes to Frogtown isn't scary at all, though.

    Neither is Night of the Lepus, unless you already have a bunny phobia. Only thing remotely unnerving in Lepus for me is how tight Dr. McCoy's pants are. After leaving westerns did DeForest Kelly ever have a pair of slacks that fit?!

    That was my joke. I don't care how large you make the bunny rabbits. They're still just bunny rabbits.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA910vCNRe4

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Grislo wrote: »
    I don't think Killer Klowns from outer space is the scariest movie of all time that has to go to night of the lepus.

    Lepus is up there, but its no Hell Comes to Frogtown.

    Hell Comes to Frogtown isn't scary at all, though.

    Neither is Night of the Lepus, unless you already have a bunny phobia. Only thing remotely unnerving in Lepus for me is how tight Dr. McCoy's pants are. After leaving westerns did DeForest Kelly ever have a pair of slacks that fit?!

    That was my joke. I don't care how large you make the bunny rabbits. They're still just bunny rabbits.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA910vCNRe4

    Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a killer!

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    edited August 2020
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    Killer kclowns from outer space scared me as a kid, but in a fun way. I knew it was silly, but as a kid, there were some scary scenes

    To use the current terminology, that movie is extremely problematic, as is mot entertainment from that time.

    Saw it for the first time thanks to you klowns. I get it's playing on tropes, but the shitty cop
    calling her a 'tramp,' and the boyfriend basically using player (whatever it's called) moves to force her to go check out the big top
    did not seem like meta jokes.

    The costuming, props, and set design was amazing, though. Really committed to the theme all the way through.

    I'm fine with the shitty cop being shitty because the movie portrays him as shitty, nobody likes him, and he winds up as a literal meat puppet.

    Nobeard on
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    DiannaoChongDiannaoChong Registered User regular
    Killer Klowns: Still some really cool practical effects/masks in that film when I rewatched it later.

    I think my aunt tried to show me killer klowns from outer space when I was 8 or 9. I don't have a fear of clowns, but I was not a 'scary movie' kid. That's a fucked up thing to show a child who can't yet tell the difference between 'scary' and 'goofy fun bad movie'

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Killer Klowns: Still some really cool practical effects/masks in that film when I rewatched it later.

    I think my aunt tried to show me killer klowns from outer space when I was 8 or 9. I don't have a fear of clowns, but I was not a 'scary movie' kid. That's a fucked up thing to show a child who can't yet tell the difference between 'scary' and 'goofy fun bad movie'

    A friend of mine tried to show it to me when I was around 3 or so. Probably scarred me for a decent amount of time because I absolutely could not watch scary movies growing up after that.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    I'm watching a Chinese animated movie that came out last year called White Snake. Within the first six minutes the heroine kills like six guards, tries to assassinate the villain with a magic flying hairpin, and engages in a spell duel with a wizard.

    Uhhh, this movie kicks ass.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCY7E0oHW6Y

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYInh6WmoGQ

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    RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    Killer kclowns from outer space scared me as a kid, but in a fun way. I knew it was silly, but as a kid, there were some scary scenes

    To use the current terminology, that movie is extremely problematic, as is mot entertainment from that time.

    Saw it for the first time thanks to you klowns. I get it's playing on tropes, but the shitty cop
    calling her a 'tramp,' and the boyfriend basically using player (whatever it's called) moves to force her to go check out the big top
    did not seem like meta jokes.

    The costuming, props, and set design was amazing, though. Really committed to the theme all the way through.

    When i first saw the reply abd quote i assumed you were talking about mr sayibg the toy held up. I dont remember anything problematic from killer clowns

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Bobble wrote: »
    My takeaway from that trailer is that Jessie Buckley feels like someone I'm gonna see in more stuff and I think I'm good with that.

    And that obviously the boyfriend isn't gonna be normal, because Jesse Plemons.

    God damn it, you can't have two Jessys in the same movie. It breaks the laws of psychics.

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    GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    There's not a single Jessy in it - only a Jessie and a Jesse.

    This post was sponsored by Tom Cruise.
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    MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    RickRude wrote: »
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    RickRude wrote: »
    Killer kclowns from outer space scared me as a kid, but in a fun way. I knew it was silly, but as a kid, there were some scary scenes

    To use the current terminology, that movie is extremely problematic, as is mot entertainment from that time.

    Saw it for the first time thanks to you klowns. I get it's playing on tropes, but the shitty cop
    calling her a 'tramp,' and the boyfriend basically using player (whatever it's called) moves to force her to go check out the big top
    did not seem like meta jokes.

    The costuming, props, and set design was amazing, though. Really committed to the theme all the way through.

    When i first saw the reply abd quote i assumed you were talking about mr sayibg the toy held up. I dont remember anything problematic from killer clowns

    Sorry, you were the first to bring up klowns again so just replied to you.

    Just the general shaming and removing her sense of agency of Debbie throughout by all the other men.

    It is of it's time so don't hold that against it. Really just commenting on pervasive that was.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    edited August 2020
    Jesse's girl..

    Jessie

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited August 2020
    @Hexmage-PA where's that at? That looks dope.

    KoopahTroopah on
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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Knock Off (Amazon Prime) is not a good movie, not even a coherent one, but it sure was enjoyable if you're a fan of Hong Kong action movies and OG JCVD. If Hard Target and Face/Off is a Hong Kong director acclimating to America, this movie is an example of western actors trying to tell a largely western movie via Hong Kong. The cast is pretty solid for the time given it's actually being filmed in Hong Kong 1997 right around the turnover, you have JCVD and Rob Schneider being knockoff conmen for a jeans company getting involved with russian baddies and hong kong mobs and then the CIA is part of it and Jamie Foxx's girlfriend from Any Given Sunday is here and oh hello, it's Paul Sorvino too.

    And a Buddha statue blows up and you have a rickshaw race like something out of Seinfeld and some pretty cool fight and chase scenes, but all with the usual post-production ADR of asian films to throw you off because they're still speaking mainly english, along with constant camera pull outs via jib and you're constantly three seconds behind processing everything. It is just an absolute mess that tried to hide behind that late 90's chic and style and weird technology that's still analog (nano bombs, son!) but you're totally fine with it because it's not laced with the cynicism of the time. Maybe I was letting the nostalgia hit over me to help blunt how I didn't understand the main premise of the story at all, but the fights were still good! Yeah you can seem some wires on JCVD but him sliding on his knees to shoot people on a cargo ship is like a pretty sweet exploit you'd use in a Platinum Studios game.

    You even have scenes right by the old Kai Tak airport with it's scary landing that really makes you wax nostalgic, it's just all dumb with a smile and so you smile. They even make a point in a Hong Kong movie to point out how it's all mobs and counterfeit stuff, you will never see that again. And that makes me sad. Because for all the film's faults it's still miles better than 95% of modern Chinese movies. Winne the Pooh plz Free Hong Kong k thx.

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    Atlas in ChainsAtlas in Chains Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Bobble wrote: »
    My takeaway from that trailer is that Jessie Buckley feels like someone I'm gonna see in more stuff and I think I'm good with that.

    And that obviously the boyfriend isn't gonna be normal, because Jesse Plemons.

    God damn it, you can't have two Jessys in the same movie. It breaks the laws of psychics.

    There are no laws of psychics, yet. That's why Professor X and Magneto are taking a break from the ideological war.

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