https://youtu.be/El_tG6PyHic
An interlude DLC for the PS5 featuring Yuffie! Sorry PS4 owners.
This is the thread for talking about Square Enix's flagship series, Final Fantasy, originally released in 1987.
A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE
MAIN SERIES
They've made fifteen main series games and over fifty spin off titles. Here's what the fans says about them.
I love Final Fantasy because you have to start somewhere.
I love Final Fantasy II because I like hitting myself for stat ups.
I love Final Fantasy III because it allowed me to stop being a hippy and get a job for the first time.
I love Final Fantasy IV because I don't have enough versions of it yet.
I love Final Fantasy V because I can play it for charity.
I hate Final Fantasy VI because I'm a soulless monster without any redeeming qualities.
I love Final Fantasy VII because it's getting remade, naturally.
I love Final Fantasy VIII because I'm a Triple Triad cardshark. There was a fun minigame about saving the world included too.
I love Final Fantasy IX because "Steiner, please, look behind you!"
I love Final Fantasy X because blitzball is rad.
I love Final Fantasy XI because it kept Square Enix in business.
I love Final Fantasy XII because I can finally play the IZJS!.
I love Final Fantasy XIII because I can't get enough Lightning.
I love Final Fantasy XIV because Stormblood is great!
I love Final Fantasy XV because it continues to exist. SQEX thanks you for beta testing the game for them.
I love Final Fantasy XVI because it's officially announced to exist.
SPIN OFFS
Every time profits are down SE makes some more FF games. There are a lot of them, too many to list them all so I'll just continue the theme with the more popular ones.
I love Final Fantasy Tactics because I love grid based movement.
I hate Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles because I have no friends.
I hate Final Fantasy Mystic Quest because it's too easy and I don't like having fun.
I love Final Fantasy X-2 because it really is the ultimate expression of both ATB and the Job system. Also I understand math so Sphere Breaker ain't shit.
I love Dissidia because it's included in its entirety in its sequel.
I love FF XIII-2 because monsters are great at parties.
I love Crisis Core because Zack is an unbeatable hero.
I love Theatrhythm because Square Enix has the best music.
I love Final Fantasy Tactics Advance because just one more turn.
I love Dissidia Duodecim 012 Final Fantasy because you can settle which Final Fantasy is best for all time with your fists.
I love Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 because more of the same is exactly what you need when the same is fantastic.
I love Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns because it was either this or no new games at all.
I love Final Fantasy Dimensions because I love Final Fantasy V.
I hate Final Fantasy Record Keeper because it became a monster unto itself.
I love
Final Fantasy Explorers because Monster Hunter is a good game, right?
I love World of Final Fantasy because I can stack pocket sized Final Fantasy monsters on my head to do battle!
I love Dissidia NT because I can finally fight my friends online with my favorite FF character!
I love DFF Opera Omnia because it's a bite sized Final Fantasy with bite sized characters!
I love Final Fantasy VII Remake because it's a fresh awesome take on an old favorite.
WHICH VERSION IS BEST?
There's a version of almost everything for almost everything these days. However, avoid the PSX version of FF5 unless it's your only option.
THE PRESENT
The present is the FF7 Remake release!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOn2bWuA_0w
Ta da! Behold, a glimpse of the FF7 remake! Someday it might come out.
PS5 era, maybe PS6. More details in June, maybe? Or whispers of FF16 ever existing? APRIL 10TH, 2020!
Spoiler-filled Final Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERgrFVhL-n4THE FUTURE
FF16: Presumably eventually?
No known info yet. Trailer up!
https://youtu.be/2tBnBAkHv9M
Final Fantasy 16 announced! The dark age with no new Final Fantasies on the horizon has ended. Look now to the new dawn!
Official site:
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com/
FF7R: Two new mobile games and an interlude DLC featuring Yuffie.
https://youtu.be/TNGkkVqpUesFinal Fantasy's current MMO, Final Fantasy XIV
While it's totally kosher to talk about FF11 and FF14 here, keep in mind there is a dedicated
FF14 MMO-specific thread.
Final Fantasy Mobile offerings
Final Fantasy Record Keeper's popularity grew so much that it dominated most of the discussion in the thread. As such it (and all mobile F2P Final Fantasy games) have been given their own threads.
Final Fantasy Record Keeper.
Final Fantasy Brave Exvius.
Mobius Final Fantasy. RIPDissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia.KINGDOM HEARTS
Is vaguely related to Final Fantasy, but has its own thread
here.
BRAVELY DEFAULT
Is everything you might want in a Final Fantasy, and you can talk about it
here.
FF5 FOUR JOB FIESTA
Do you have what it takes to play what is quite simply the most fun and addicting alternate game mode of any RPG ever? Do you want to help out sick children by raising money for the greatest charity in the world? Do you want to watch RK sleepily make his way through Neo-Exdeath with quite a sub standard party? If this sounds even remotely interesting well then, do I have a website for you.
The deal is you get four jobs from the normal set of 20+ and you can only use skills from those four. As you gain new job sets one job is randomly assigned to you and each assigned job must be equipped at all times on at least one party member. You get the wind job, you get four of those, you get the water job, your party must be made up at least one from your water job and one from your wind job and so on. There are variations
http://fourjobfiesta.com/
What do you need to start playing?
1. A copy of FF5. PSN version is cheapest and worst. SFC version is pretty cheap but in Japanese, GBA version is best but expensive, iOS version is a lot cheaper than that but has the issues standard with playing a game on iOS (easy screencaps though!)
2. A twitter account. Yeah I hate twitter too but I made some dummy accounts just for this.
3.Then all you do is sign up at the website (with any of the optional run ideas) and you can play from whenever RK beats the game until the end of August!
Where does the charity come in you say? Well, you can either pledge money to change whatever jobs RK is assigned for his inaugural run (1 dollar=1 extra vote for a job!) or you can pledge money for doing various deeds. If you can't donate money you'll notice that you can still earn money from other people's pledges by completing their goals (usually beating the game with a certain class, beating the two optional bosses,etc.) It's just like getting sponsors for a 10k back in school! You play, everyone wins.
Credit to
@xenogears of bore for cannibalizing most of his OPs.
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Forget it...
I can't remember the most recent previous possible release dates, but the past 8 months or so have been rife with the big (and little) publishers playing footsie with their releases, trying to identify the prime time to hit the market while avoiding other big titles. However, I feel like they had been pretty explicit that it was mostly a matter of getting localization finalized for simultaneous worldwide release, which may mean it was largely about translating documentation and prepping promotional content?
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Plus, now Shadowbringers is the reason to play FFXIV, not Stormblood :P
See the very honest title of the current thread.
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I bought Dimensions 2 a while back but never played it. Is it good as well?
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
As such we are probably looking at some "clever" subtitles going forward like, re-build, re-coded, re-imagined, re-vision, re-boot, etc. And that's why this isn't titled "part 1" because the follow ups will not be "part 2" and will be setting very different expectations. This first entry will be the only one semi-faithful to the original story. This would also explain why FF7R is one of very few remakes tacky enough to officially title themselves a remake, to help draw contrast with later entries.
Maybe this is obvious and someone mentioned in the previous thread but I don't see it here and had to get this idea out of my head.
Shadowbringers is the best Final Fantasy content of the last 10-15 years. It somehow manages to tell a pretty intense, personal story despite the fact that the player character is a (mostly) silent protagonist.
Another way to see it is that Aerith could only truly activate Holy from death. This is based on Cloud's proclamation that Sephiroth was holding her and Holy materia back from doing their job, hence killing Sephiroth allows Meteor to be destroyed. Maybe she only had the planet's resources at her call because of being merged with the lifestream. Hell Sephiroth was semi-merged with the lifestream when he summoned Meteor, maybe that was necessary for using the black materia too. If this is true, then FF7R Sephiroth might conclude that killing Aerith was *a mistake*, and that *letting her live*, especially in captivity or else distracted with the party chasing down less relevant threats, might ensure his victory this time around.
Either way you look at it, FF7R Sephiroth should know just how key Aerith's death was in how events turned out the first time, and its hard to see how he wouldn't try to dramatically change that event one way or another the second time around. And nothing would signal further how far this series is diverging from the original than in changing that event.
(And things like that have happened in the past. I remember a story (I think it was one of the ones in The Trenches) where QA found a bug in a racing game that could brick the console, and was reproducible in a third of the tracks. With no time to fix it before they went gold and finding themselves in serious legal liability if they let it go out with the bug on it, they cut the tracks from the game)
A relatively simple bug fix plus restarting the game disc production feels like it'd fit the timeline.
Bonus points if he says something like “do you want her to be just a memory?”
That's interesting...
The first part was actually a massive success (and it let AVALANCHE directly confront Sephiroth). The second part never happened because of a decapitation strike that "killed" Rufus Shinra, and left the military in the hands of Heidegger and Scarlet, who besides being less competent, were killed in a petty attempt to destroy AVALANCHE. Presumably, all of that will play out the same way, but otherwise, Rufus might revise the plan as an attempt to very ironically kidnap/rescue Aerith again after bringing down the barrier.
If, for example, the writers wanted to shift responsibility for Aerith's death to Rufus or someone else at Shinra (kind of awkward given Rufus's pretty one-track mind on eliminating Sephiroth, but he did order AVALANCHE executed at Junon for terrorism/to counter the panic), that would be their opportunity. In subsequent materials, Rufus is consistently portrayed as both a master manipulator (to the point where he helped AVALANCHE as part of a coup against his father, something only the company was aware of) and only concerned with the big-picture, so there are some ways you could go with that.
Pure speculation, but it's fun nonetheless.
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Loved it!
took me around 50 hours to complete. playing completionist.
some things I wish I had known at the start (or had paid more attention to if there was a tutorial)
mostly light gameplay spoilers, will make it obvious if a nested spoiler is quest related.
at some point I turned it to off by accident without realising and played for hours without direction other than the main map.
When out of combat, you can hold down L1 while selecting a target for your heal spells to multicast, very handy for keeping the party health topped up.
Stagger gauge is vital, especially for some bosses. has 3 states.... normal / pressured / stagger
while you can skip straight from normal to stagger, Pay attention to your weapon abilities that "pressure" enemies, a pressured enemy is much easier to stagger.
You can set quick actions to L1 + one of the face buttons. this lets you use your most often used abilities/spells without having to dip into a menu. (this is essential for playing Tifa without having to go into slow-mo every few seconds)
The Battle Settings option in the Menu is where you go to set this up.
Materia
This is not too bad and you will mostly get this one done naturally.
that said, Raise takes 5000 AP to MAX so you want to have it always equipped otherwise you will have to grind or do post game stuff for that one.
at some point you can solve certain sidequests by having various materia leveled up. the level changing the outcome.
those materia are....
Cleanse
and an Elemental (fire/lightning/etc.) of your choice
Party Member gameplay.
Tifa
Her Overpower ability is good for putting an enemy into pressure state for easy stagger building.
once an enemy is staggered, mash TRIANGLE with Tifa. it is one of the few ways in the game to raise the Stagger beyond 160%
imo because of her speed Tifa makes a fantastic healer, she can quickly build up the 2 ATB charges to use the Prayer Materia when you need it.
Aerith
Ward can be used by any party member once it is on the ground, just have that character stand within it to get the benefit.
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Man am I excite!
I haven't played Dimensions 2 yet, but it looked like it was quite a different game?
Dimensions 1 is like a mash-up of the episodic scenario in FF4 The After Years (where you are switching between different parties until they all join up at the end) with FF5's job system.
Are we really worried about spoiling a game that's 23 years old? My post isn't about the remake, but just in case:
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^I've read the spoilers in this and the last thread about FF7R, I just didn't feel like rahkeesh's speculation revealed anything about Remake beyond the basic notion that seems to be common knowledge now? I mean, just in the last few pages of the last thread, people were talking around it, sure, but it seemed pretty easy to read between the lines.
I'm sorry if what I said offended anyone, I didn't think there was anything confrontational about it. But judging by the responses I feel like I screwed up.
Yes everyone should know that Aerith fucking dies in the original by now, but I think it's too soon to tip that there's solid basis for remake parts 2+ might not even be remakes, and that the villain is likely to change history precisely because it is history to him. None of that is what I or many other expected at all before the FF7R in-story revelations, I mean people were asking how the violence of the Aerith scene would be handled in HD and the answer could now easily be that it won't.
Not offended, I just disagreed with what you said. I re-read the spoiler before responding, and felt that it super contained Remake-exclusive spoilers. I feel like the thread has in general done a good job of keeping that stuff behind spoilers and that it's not common knowledge.
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On spoilers, while I've beaten the original when it first came out, I'm basically going into the remake dark. I've heard there are enough changes that in my opinion, spoiler tags should definitely be used.
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Yeah, I would say that anything regarding the Remake should absolutely go in spoilers, and even material regarding the original should probably go in spoilers. The Remake has enough new stuff going on that people deserve to get the chance to experience it fresh, and the original has some things that are entirely likely to get into the Remake and people should now get the chance to experience those things fresh as well.
As it is, the internet is full of assholes who will intentionally try to fuck up other people's experiences without accidentally adding to that ourselves.
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as each ATB segment is now 33% of the total instead of 50%, they fill much quicker allowing you to use your abilities/spells much more often.
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*Me thinking about how even more absurd Tifa's lack of muscle definition is in hi def.*
Are they upset that Tifa is slender, or upset at people upset that Tifa is slender?
(I'm really not good at Twitter.)
I had assumed the former. I also do not Twitter and generally avoid most of the Internet.
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Might be but it's such a common occurrence in media who knows.
essentially mocking a paper-thin false feminism based on how sexually attractive you find the character that says "women can be strong, and that's beautiful, unless you're not fitting into the usual standard of female beauty, in which case ew gross"