I haden't seen anything on trading in D4, so I looked it up. Apparently, you can't trade legendaries and uniques. Only rares and below. That's kind of a bummer. I liked trading in D2.
Yeah they've stated that one of their goals is to have the economy revolve more around perfect or near-perfect rolled rares, since they have systems in place to upgrade those to legendary
So I've now played a werewolf druid up to level 17....and it's been pretty fun? Certainly doesn't stack up next to my sorc as far as damage output goes but definitely leaps and bounds over barb in survivability. And this is wolf form, not bear. I did find a leggo that gives me +15% damage reduction in wolf form.
I also found one that turns my wolf companions into werewolf companions so now I'm just a trio of werewolves running around spreading rabies everywhere.
Yup.
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Xbox Series S impressions: runs fine, console stays silent as always. Having cross-platform characters is very nice.
Had some fun with chain lightning sorcerer and reave necromancer, but not 80€ worth. Oh well, better to find out on free beta than after paying.
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
i think i have achieved a vibe we can call disco goth
D4 turns the LEDs on my keyboard red and I'm not a fan. Anyone know where I can turn that off, if possible? I've looked through the settings but can't find it.
Glad I got in early and stuck on then, pretty much done the story with necro just shy of 17. Necro does indeed feel kinda busted (for now), but maybe that’s just coming from Barb last weekend.
I have that mist legendary someone mentioned ready to try later
Got it running on Deck pretty nicely at low/45hz and medium textures (didn't even download high res). 16:10 keeps things readable and controller is fully supported. Only thing is it started stuttering like crazy maybe 10 minutes in and fully crashed my system right thereafter. I've seen reports of crashes even on desktop so wonder if it is a memory leak, since SteamOS is known to not handle out-of-memory very gracefully. Meanwhile got an hour or two in on series S earlier, that might just be more stable than the PC version at the moment, and it runs at a smooth 60 FPS and what looks more-or-less 1080p so a good experience overall.
HDR support seems unfinished on both console and PC now, but in SDR mode D4 looks pitch-perfect on an LG C1, not washed out as compressed videos suggested (although there was some visible banding in the fog of an early cutscene). This game might be leaning more towards high-contrast displays with all the black it uses, which doesn't always look the best on glowy IPS without local dimming. Hope they get HDR tuned up for release as that could really shine, love how the D2R dungeons looked in that.
On the good side, tone and atmosphere are definitely better than D3. Not perfect, but definitely better. No huge complaints on the networking side given it's a stress test -- got in in 30 minutes while eating dinner, my skeletons get janky sometimes from lag, and yeah I hit some invisible walls. But really what's more classic D2 style than invisible lag walls?
I'm kind of with surreality though -- lots of this game is very pretty and looks like I want a 2023 Diablo to look like. Some if it feels a...little less than I would expect a 2023 blizzard game to look like. Some of the models just don't feel quite right, and yeah the spell effects are....not very good in a lot of instances. The standard fire effect in this game should look awesome, and it doesn't. The sound design also isn't quite clicking with me -- not especially bad, but it feels like it's missing some bass or something and feels "light", not quite the chunkiness I want in an ARPG right now (playing a necro). Spell fx and the sound fx with them is huge to how good an ARPG feels, so I'm hoping I find some more impactful feeling stuff as I go on (I feel strong, but it just feels floaty so far, early on). On the necro note -- why can't corpses just be corpses? Why do they need to be bright red and shooting out a vertical blood volcano thing? Plenty of ARPGs have shown you can make corpses super readable for "corpse spells" with just some highlighting/outlining on mouse over while still having them look like normal enemy corpses and fit the tone better. Also the spell cast animation for hemorrhage is kind of dumb -- I thought it just looked dumb because of my two handed sword, but it looks dumb with a variety of weapons.
The in-game cutscenes are a mix of super cool and kind of janky and unnecessarily slow. The janky teleportyness could just be beta stuff, hopefully can be polished. It feels like they really really want you to see your character model a lot, and just add in unnecessary stuff. The rigging/animation on the player character model seems less cool in cutscenes than the NPCs, and it's hard to shake the notion that most of the cutscenes would look way better and less janky without the PC in them at all. Similar with dialogue -- protagonist is slightly voiced and will talk to the NPCs sometimes -- but mostly isn't and it's a weird mix so far.
Also I had no strong opinions on the "destiny-like" multiplayer where you see other players thing going in. I mostly play ARPGs solo but will definitely do pubbie parties in D2/D3 for loot and levels a decent amount. As soon as it happened though, I recoiled immediately and hated it and got as far away as possible. Let me choose when I want to do that -- it jacks with the tone running out into bleak horrible demon field and seeing another person plowing through it already. The second person I saw is also level 25 while I'm level 6? It seems like some sort of boss area, but I can kill everything around it without issue and that's a huge level gap for so early (which can be tweaked and I really hope it is).
I don't mean the above to sound too critical, just some observations. It's early on and there's lots of structural stuff I don't understand yet, so I may still wind up enjoying it quite a lot. So far though I'm pressing on more for science and not because I've caught some kind of "oh dang this feels awesome" fever.
Similar with dialogue -- protagonist is slightly voiced and will talk to the NPCs sometimes -- but mostly isn't and it's a weird mix so far.
Yeah it's weird, when you talk to NPCs, your character does not voice the line you click on to initiate the dialogue, but talks from that point forward. Very jarring
Similar with dialogue -- protagonist is slightly voiced and will talk to the NPCs sometimes -- but mostly isn't and it's a weird mix so far.
Yeah it's weird, when you talk to NPCs, your character does not voice the line you click on to initiate the dialogue, but talks from that point forward. Very jarring
Right? And like (early cutscene spoilers)
You've got the cutscene where Lillith shows up to the Church, charms the villagers and they bash the the priests skull in with wicked evil murder grins. My necromancer is relaying the story after the cutscene, and says something like "Lillith came to them....and they welcomed her....almost like a mother"
And my reaction is "That's what you took out of that entire sequence of events? That is a terrible and vague synopsis that omits 90% of the important details!" It would work better with the NPC just being like "Oh wow that's what you saw huh?" without the awkward 20% of an explanation.
Do we want the character to be a character or not? It's a very strange middle ground between pure silent obsever and an attempt at characterization and having you be more involved in the story
Some of the models just don't feel quite right, and yeah the spell effects are....not very good in a lot of instances.
fwiw spell fx supposedly change as you level them, so the level 1 version of a spell won't look as cool as a level 8 version of the spell, for example. Someone actually just asked about it and they said it's in the game
Some of the models just don't feel quite right, and yeah the spell effects are....not very good in a lot of instances.
fwiw spell fx supposedly change as you level them, so the level 1 version of a spell won't look as cool as a level 8 version of the spell, for example. Someone actually just asked about it and they said it's in the game
Yeah it's safe to say I will be watching some videos of high end, end game content before I purchase. I hope they do look cooler, because that obviously is where the game should look the coolest, and having an image of that in your mind can make the early phases more bearable. I have played ARPGs that look much cooler at this very early phase of the game, but hey gradually increasing skill effects could be cool if done well.
I got to level 10, did a few random dungeon thingies, got a whatever the legendary craft-skill-effect-on-item thing is called and logged out for now to play some other games instead. No big compulsion to keep going, but not saying it's bad either. I just don't needs it quite yet like I was hoping for, but I'll probably play more throughout the weekend.
I dunno I find the lack of visual screen cancer kind of nice. It actually lets me dodge things on screen. The game will have me play it and depending on the end game it has the basics to be the best arpg out there.
Druid felt like second weakest unit ahead of barb but at 16 the skills open up and it extends the lead over barb really fast. I have only got two of the lego abilites so far too. Rabies and poison creeper clears screens and its not even upgraded yet from the 16+ nodes that look very strong.
I'm only level 10 with him but so far caster druid feels pretty underwhelming. Tornado doesn't feel satisfying to use. The lightning storm core skill kills pack pretty fast but you run out of spirit so fast. And feels even worse against a big boss. And unlike Sorceress, your spirit doesn't refill by itself while you're kiting so you're always stuck spamming your disappointing basic a lot regardless of what you do.
try the earth spell with uhh the wind basic attack. that's what has been my bread and butter along with the summon skills. I'm up to level 16 now, only died once to a cheap one shot
try the earth spell with uhh the wind basic attack. that's what has been my bread and butter along with the summon skills. I'm up to level 16 now, only died once to a cheap one shot
Yeah haven't been around to trying that one yet. I'm using the wind basic skill too but I don't like it much. Maybe druid is expected to use his basic skill more than sorceress. Do you put points in the damage of your wind basic skill?
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Yeah they've stated that one of their goals is to have the economy revolve more around perfect or near-perfect rolled rares, since they have systems in place to upgrade those to legendary
she needs a friend not a skeleton army
I also found one that turns my wolf companions into werewolf companions so now I'm just a trio of werewolves running around spreading rabies everywhere.
Yup.
Had some fun with chain lightning sorcerer and reave necromancer, but not 80€ worth. Oh well, better to find out on free beta than after paying.
I have that mist legendary someone mentioned ready to try later
Rotten Rubbish over here
HDR support seems unfinished on both console and PC now, but in SDR mode D4 looks pitch-perfect on an LG C1, not washed out as compressed videos suggested (although there was some visible banding in the fog of an early cutscene). This game might be leaning more towards high-contrast displays with all the black it uses, which doesn't always look the best on glowy IPS without local dimming. Hope they get HDR tuned up for release as that could really shine, love how the D2R dungeons looked in that.
I’m on a c2 currently.
I’ll see if I can mess with it if you were able to get SDR looking good.
the fire on skeletons looks like its from an indie game in 2014 but the torches look good as fuck
wat u doin blizarde
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
On the good side, tone and atmosphere are definitely better than D3. Not perfect, but definitely better. No huge complaints on the networking side given it's a stress test -- got in in 30 minutes while eating dinner, my skeletons get janky sometimes from lag, and yeah I hit some invisible walls. But really what's more classic D2 style than invisible lag walls?
I'm kind of with surreality though -- lots of this game is very pretty and looks like I want a 2023 Diablo to look like. Some if it feels a...little less than I would expect a 2023 blizzard game to look like. Some of the models just don't feel quite right, and yeah the spell effects are....not very good in a lot of instances. The standard fire effect in this game should look awesome, and it doesn't. The sound design also isn't quite clicking with me -- not especially bad, but it feels like it's missing some bass or something and feels "light", not quite the chunkiness I want in an ARPG right now (playing a necro). Spell fx and the sound fx with them is huge to how good an ARPG feels, so I'm hoping I find some more impactful feeling stuff as I go on (I feel strong, but it just feels floaty so far, early on). On the necro note -- why can't corpses just be corpses? Why do they need to be bright red and shooting out a vertical blood volcano thing? Plenty of ARPGs have shown you can make corpses super readable for "corpse spells" with just some highlighting/outlining on mouse over while still having them look like normal enemy corpses and fit the tone better. Also the spell cast animation for hemorrhage is kind of dumb -- I thought it just looked dumb because of my two handed sword, but it looks dumb with a variety of weapons.
The in-game cutscenes are a mix of super cool and kind of janky and unnecessarily slow. The janky teleportyness could just be beta stuff, hopefully can be polished. It feels like they really really want you to see your character model a lot, and just add in unnecessary stuff. The rigging/animation on the player character model seems less cool in cutscenes than the NPCs, and it's hard to shake the notion that most of the cutscenes would look way better and less janky without the PC in them at all. Similar with dialogue -- protagonist is slightly voiced and will talk to the NPCs sometimes -- but mostly isn't and it's a weird mix so far.
Also I had no strong opinions on the "destiny-like" multiplayer where you see other players thing going in. I mostly play ARPGs solo but will definitely do pubbie parties in D2/D3 for loot and levels a decent amount. As soon as it happened though, I recoiled immediately and hated it and got as far away as possible. Let me choose when I want to do that -- it jacks with the tone running out into bleak horrible demon field and seeing another person plowing through it already. The second person I saw is also level 25 while I'm level 6? It seems like some sort of boss area, but I can kill everything around it without issue and that's a huge level gap for so early (which can be tweaked and I really hope it is).
I don't mean the above to sound too critical, just some observations. It's early on and there's lots of structural stuff I don't understand yet, so I may still wind up enjoying it quite a lot. So far though I'm pressing on more for science and not because I've caught some kind of "oh dang this feels awesome" fever.
Yeah it's weird, when you talk to NPCs, your character does not voice the line you click on to initiate the dialogue, but talks from that point forward. Very jarring
Right? And like (early cutscene spoilers)
And my reaction is "That's what you took out of that entire sequence of events? That is a terrible and vague synopsis that omits 90% of the important details!" It would work better with the NPC just being like "Oh wow that's what you saw huh?" without the awkward 20% of an explanation.
Do we want the character to be a character or not? It's a very strange middle ground between pure silent obsever and an attempt at characterization and having you be more involved in the story
fwiw spell fx supposedly change as you level them, so the level 1 version of a spell won't look as cool as a level 8 version of the spell, for example. Someone actually just asked about it and they said it's in the game
Yeah it's safe to say I will be watching some videos of high end, end game content before I purchase. I hope they do look cooler, because that obviously is where the game should look the coolest, and having an image of that in your mind can make the early phases more bearable. I have played ARPGs that look much cooler at this very early phase of the game, but hey gradually increasing skill effects could be cool if done well.
I got to level 10, did a few random dungeon thingies, got a whatever the legendary craft-skill-effect-on-item thing is called and logged out for now to play some other games instead. No big compulsion to keep going, but not saying it's bad either. I just don't needs it quite yet like I was hoping for, but I'll probably play more throughout the weekend.
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This is my new favorite thing.
but also look im a princess already and im only level 5 wowee
Druid felt like second weakest unit ahead of barb but at 16 the skills open up and it extends the lead over barb really fast. I have only got two of the lego abilites so far too. Rabies and poison creeper clears screens and its not even upgraded yet from the 16+ nodes that look very strong.
Gold and mats are shared between all your characters, as is your item stash.
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Yeah haven't been around to trying that one yet. I'm using the wind basic skill too but I don't like it much. Maybe druid is expected to use his basic skill more than sorceress. Do you put points in the damage of your wind basic skill?
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