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A set of IV's for the DS: DQ IV and FF IV Now Updated!

Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Games and Technology
I like mysterious thread titles, so let's see who comes in here. This thread is about FF IV DS and DQ IV DS.


FINAL FANTASY IV
Release Date: December 20, 2007 Japan, July 22, 2008 US, and sometime around there for Europe!

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Thick like a milkshake.

Now with a video!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25846.html

That video with subtitles is found here under trailer.

http://na.square-enix.com/ff4/

A remix of that video with English voice acting that sounds remarkabely similiar to Ring of Fates! (This is a good thing!)

http://member.square-enix.com/na/videos/

"Feature" List: (Off the top of my head, so feel free to correct me.

Good chunk of Voice Acting.

New Movie

Better Graphics than FF III DS

Great Music

New Namingway Content (Can't rename characters when you have VAing involved, unless you want to Tidus cheat!)

Equip new abilities on characters

Silly Minigames

New Bosses

New Tactics Needed on old bosses.

Sweet Ass Cover Art.

New Tails for new uber equipment!




DRAGON QUEST IV

RELEASE DATE:November 22nd, 2007 Japan, September 18, 2008 USA, Sometime similar for Europe.

Now with a [strike]Video[/strike] Boxart!

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"Feature List" (Much harder considering I've actually played FF IV DS and didn't import this one.

Fully Controllable Party in Chapter V

Bonus Chapter?

General Improvements from PSX version to bring it up to DQ VI standards.

I dunno, Medals and shit?

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I tried playing FFIII on DS and it didn't hook me at all. I like the idea of FFIV, but I'm incredibly fickle. I'll probably still buy it though.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Are they just porting the PSX version of DQ4? I'd be fine with that either way.

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That's one horrible thread title. If I didn't know specifically that FFIV and DQIV were being made for the DS, I wouldn't of even bothered coming in here. Not exactly a smart idea when you're delivering news.

    Anyway, I have no idea why they put the FFIV character renders on the page. I saw them, went "they look hot" and then saw the in-game character models and went "AHHHHH!" Can't wait for the game but christ, they're not even close to being as good looking as FFVIII or FFIX are (mostly due to the lack of pre-rendered backgrounds).

    Bartholamue: I'm pretty sure they are. There shouldn't be any space issues since the remake was only on one CD anyway. DQV and DQVI don't have that advantage though, they'll probably have to start from scratch on them (or just use the DQIV or FFIII engines).

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  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

    But....DQIV is the same game as in SNES, but with better visuals...

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  • SpaceDrakeSpaceDrake Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously. If they're really adding all the lost content from the original script it'll be grand beyond reckoning. I'll still pick it up because I'm such a sucker for the game.

    I'm an even bigger sucker for DQIV, though. I'd buy that in a heartbeat as I never got it for the NES.

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  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Turkey wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

    But....DQIV is the same game as in SNES, but with better visuals...

    Yes, because I don't own a SNES (I'm not too big on consoles.)

    I do, however, own a GBA.

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  • DarkDragoonDarkDragoon Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Are they just porting the PSX version of DQ4? I'd be fine with that either way.

    They're using the same graphical styling as the PSX version, though it's not a port. They look the same at first glance, but upon comparison, the sprites in the DS remake are noticeably taller, thinner, and cleaner, the terrain is more detailed, and the camera is at a different angle.

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  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Turkey wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

    But....DQIV is the same game as in SNES, but with better visuals...

    Yes, because I don't own a SNES (I'm not too big on consoles.)

    I do, however, own a GBA.

    Touché.

    Turkey on
  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Can you read? They're adding a crapton of content that was cut from the original release. The OP even mentions it.

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  • SeruleSerule Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    That's one horrible thread title.

    I thought this was a thread about breeding Pokemon.

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Turkey wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Turkey wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

    But....DQIV is the same game as in SNES, but with better visuals...

    Yes, because I don't own a SNES (I'm not too big on consoles.)

    I do, however, own a GBA.

    Touché.

    DQIV was never released on the SNES anyway - it was originally released on the Famicom/NES, and rereleased on the PSX years later.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Still waiting for Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI remakes for DS....

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Can you read? They're adding a crapton of content that was cut from the original release. The OP even mentions it.

    Yeah, I was about to type the same thing. Pureauthor fails hard at reading. THE NEW VERSION IS 75% LONGER, YOU FOOL!

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    A remake of FFIV excites me to no end. The last truly "difficult" Final Fantasy to come out in the United States. I've played through my SNES cart at least 12 times.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Can you read? They're adding a crapton of content that was cut from the original release. The OP even mentions it.

    Yeah, I was about to type the same thing. Pureauthor fails hard at reading. THE NEW VERSION IS 75% LONGER, YOU FOOL!

    It's not really "75 percent longer." The quote was thus from a GameBrink interview months ago:
    Is the main story staying the way it is?
    Tokita: Well, keeping the main story we’ve added new original events. The GBA version of the game had some but this time we’ve taken it to another level. When we made the Super Famicom version, only a quarter of the scenarios we wrote were actually used. In the port this time we’ve been working to flesh out the parts we cut out but at the same time, cutting out the parts that we think are extraneous.
    Asano: There will of course be completely new sub events but, we’ll also be touching on the key parts of the game that have never been revealed in any of the Final Fantasy IV ports thus far.

    So there’s still parts of the game that hasn’t been brought to light?
    Tokita: There are parts that are unclear or haven’t been looked at in depth. When we first made the game we really didn’t think that far but, by making sure events are kept consistent I think the drama will be raised to another level this time.

    So there will be some rejiggering, but it's mostly scenarios and setups they're looking at, not actual playtime, and there's nothing to say they're cramming it all in there. It's more of an "FFIV: Extreme Director's Cut," which really gets me salivating, although I wasn't really a fan of the bonus dungeon in FFIVa.

    EDIT: And these are possibly the two greatest IVs in the history of gaming. Both coming to my favorite handheld. <3 But we also forgot ... CONTRA IV!

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Man, I thought this would be a DS game where I have to use the stylus to insert IVs into people.

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  • PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Yeah, I was about to type the same thing. Pureauthor fails hard at reading. THE NEW VERSION IS 75% LONGER, YOU FOOL!

    No, the scenario is 75% longer (under the most optimistic conditions). What that really means is that you're going to get a whole lot more dialogue - and there's no indication that gameplay itself is going to be significantly lengthened in anyway.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    SpaceDrake wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously.

    ...And, what, you're able to take 16 bit sprites more "seriously" than these?

    Furu on
  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Furu wrote: »
    SpaceDrake wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously.

    ...And, what, you're able to take 16 bit sprites more "seriously" than these?

    Agreed. You're definitely letting nostalgia cloud your judgment. There's a big difference between this:

    cecil_ff4ds.jpgrydia_ff4ds.jpg

    and this:

    ff4sprites.jpg

    The facial animations and expressions alone (which I really liked from FF3DS, although I wasn't a fan of the game in general) have me excited for how FF4DS will play out.

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  • MC MysteryMC Mystery Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I personally think the character models look really really great.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    SpaceDrake wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously.

    ...And, what, you're able to take 16 bit sprites more "seriously" than these?

    Agreed. You're definitely letting nostalgia cloud your judgment. There's a big difference between this:

    snip

    and this:

    snip

    The facial animations and expressions alone (which I really liked from FF3DS, although I wasn't a fan of the game in general) have me excited for how FF4DS will play out.
    I'm not a fan of the genre, and the detailed character models do immediately provoke a mental "dammit Japan, those characters look, like, ten and six years old" response from me when I see them, much more so than the sprites. It reminds me of some comic book (Ultimate Sinister Six or something like that) I read where Nick Fury went and got Peter Parker and introduced him to the Ultimates, and Iron Man's response is "...did you go back in time to get him?" And that shot in the lower right corner looks like it's being enacted in the third grade play.

    It's not something I'm up in arms about (since I never played the originals and am pretty unlikely to pick these up either way), but I can see where someone could say that they have trouble taking the look seriously. I imagine what this game would be like with full voice acting and it's all children putting on mock adult voices.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Can you read? They're adding a crapton of content that was cut from the original release. The OP even mentions it.

    Yeah, I was about to type the same thing. Pureauthor fails hard at reading. THE NEW VERSION IS 75% LONGER, YOU FOOL!

    It's not really "75 percent longer." The quote was thus from a GameBrink interview months ago:
    Is the main story staying the way it is?
    Tokita: Well, keeping the main story we’ve added new original events. The GBA version of the game had some but this time we’ve taken it to another level. When we made the Super Famicom version, only a quarter of the scenarios we wrote were actually used. In the port this time we’ve been working to flesh out the parts we cut out but at the same time, cutting out the parts that we think are extraneous.
    Asano: There will of course be completely new sub events but, we’ll also be touching on the key parts of the game that have never been revealed in any of the Final Fantasy IV ports thus far.

    So there’s still parts of the game that hasn’t been brought to light?
    Tokita: There are parts that are unclear or haven’t been looked at in depth. When we first made the game we really didn’t think that far but, by making sure events are kept consistent I think the drama will be raised to another level this time.

    So there will be some rejiggering, but it's mostly scenarios and setups they're looking at, not actual playtime, and there's nothing to say they're cramming it all in there. It's more of an "FFIV: Extreme Director's Cut," which really gets me salivating, although I wasn't really a fan of the bonus dungeon in FFIVa.

    EDIT: And these are possibly the two greatest IVs in the history of gaming. Both coming to my favorite handheld. <3 But we also forgot ... CONTRA IV!

    Well, it still has a lot of extra stuff.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Orogogus wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    SpaceDrake wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously.

    ...And, what, you're able to take 16 bit sprites more "seriously" than these?

    Agreed. You're definitely letting nostalgia cloud your judgment. There's a big difference between this:

    snip

    and this:

    snip

    The facial animations and expressions alone (which I really liked from FF3DS, although I wasn't a fan of the game in general) have me excited for how FF4DS will play out.
    I'm not a fan of the genre, and the detailed character models do immediately provoke a mental "dammit Japan, those characters look, like, ten and six years old" response from me when I see them, much more so than the sprites. It reminds me of some comic book (Ultimate Sinister Six or something like that) I read where Nick Fury went and got Peter Parker and introduced him to the Ultimates, and Iron Man's response is "...did you go back in time to get him?" And that shot in the lower right corner looks like it's being enacted in the third grade play.

    It's not something I'm up in arms about (since I never played the originals and am pretty unlikely to pick these up either way), but I can see where someone could say that they have trouble taking the look seriously. I imagine what this game would be like with full voice acting and it's all children putting on mock adult voices.

    Well, Rydia actually is something like 8 or 10 years old in that scan. :) And consider that they looked like this in the original:

    Cecil%20(Paladin)%20-%20Victory.gifRydia%20(Child)%20-%20Attack2.gif

    Cecil%20(Paladin)%20(Front).gifRydia%20(Child)%20(Front).gif

    I agree that from an art style perspective it's possible not to like the quasi-chibi look of the DS version, but to say the SNES version looked any less "kiddie" seems like cognitive dissonance to me.

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  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
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  • DaybreakDaybreak Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I am super thrilled for the remake of FFIV. It's my favourite in the series by far, so this game is as close to an insta-buy as you can get.

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I can't wait, and hope they continue on to FFV and VI. Also, there were PC versions of VII and VIII, weren't there? It seems possible that the DS might get 'em, they'd sure sell like hotcakes.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
    Orogogus wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    SpaceDrake wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a whore for FFIV but those models are... off. Somehow I just can't take them seriously.

    ...And, what, you're able to take 16 bit sprites more "seriously" than these?

    Agreed. You're definitely letting nostalgia cloud your judgment. There's a big difference between this:

    snip

    and this:

    snip

    The facial animations and expressions alone (which I really liked from FF3DS, although I wasn't a fan of the game in general) have me excited for how FF4DS will play out.
    I'm not a fan of the genre, and the detailed character models do immediately provoke a mental "dammit Japan, those characters look, like, ten and six years old" response from me when I see them, much more so than the sprites. It reminds me of some comic book (Ultimate Sinister Six or something like that) I read where Nick Fury went and got Peter Parker and introduced him to the Ultimates, and Iron Man's response is "...did you go back in time to get him?" And that shot in the lower right corner looks like it's being enacted in the third grade play.

    It's not something I'm up in arms about (since I never played the originals and am pretty unlikely to pick these up either way), but I can see where someone could say that they have trouble taking the look seriously. I imagine what this game would be like with full voice acting and it's all children putting on mock adult voices.
    Well, Rydia actually is something like 8 or 10 years old in that scan. :)
    But she's the one who looks 6. This "Cecil" looks 10 (and freakishly effeminate, thanks again Japan), and makes me get my that's-not-a-toy-and-someone-might-get-hurt speech all ready.
    And consider that they looked like this in the original:
    Cecil%20(Paladin)%20-%20Victory.gifRydia%20(Child)%20-%20Attack2.gif

    Cecil%20(Paladin)%20(Front).gifRydia%20(Child)%20(Front).gif

    I agree that from an art style perspective it's possible not to like the quasi-chibi look of the DS version, but to say the SNES version looked any less "kiddie" seems like cognitive dissonance to me.
    It's a less is more thing, I think, where the more detailed renditions throw the stylistic abnormalities into stark relief. I'm not fond of chibi sprites, either, but they don't immediately and constantly make me think "Oh lord, this game's populated by kids" (well, the knight ones anyways). If they were all stick figures then eventually I'd get over it and it would all be abstracted, Dwarf Fortress style, into my head and I'd see a knight or magic user or whatever instead of a bunch of lines and circles or ASCII characters. The more detailed it gets, the harder it is for me to get to that stage. Taken to the ultimate extreme, it would be like if you did a live action version, and used actual kids in the production. That lower right picture in particular, the scene is probably all moving and epic and deep or whatever, but I imagine the black knight kid going "I love you SOOOO much" and holding his arms out to illustrate just how much.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2007
    I typically find life too short to get through RPGs like this once in most cases.

    Remakes are lovely things, but they are for gentle folk with far more free time than I.

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  • Pharaoh ManPharaoh Man Registered User new member
    edited August 2007
    i pray the characters will look more grown up than FFIII's. I for one didn't mind III's art style, but your party was a bunch of kids. Heres to hoping they can do the mature plot-line of IV without mucking it up.


    ( also first post evar yay)

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  • MC MysteryMC Mystery Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm more excited for DQIV.

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  • ResIpsaLoquiturResIpsaLoquitur Not a grammar nazi, just alt-write. Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    I typically find life too short to get through RPGs like this once in most cases.

    Remakes are lovely things, but they are for gentle folk with far more free time than I.

    That's what makes me hesitant about picking this up. I played through this and ff6 countless times on my snes, but given that I was 12 and 14 at the time, it's not like I had anything better to be doing. I picked up IV for the GBA about a year ago and I've still not finished it; same goes for FFV and FFTA; I can't sit myself down and play it for as long anymore. I didn't pick up FF6-gba for that reason; six is my favorite of the bunch, though, so if they do a DS remake I could see myself breaking down.

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Mmmm cant wait for DQIV ... damn that reminds me, one thing I loved the shit out of the DQ/DW series was the weapon and armor artwork they would do and include with the game. Back in the days of 8 bit sprites it helped my brain vision what my guys were using.

    I am going to make me some money with Taloon. Boooyah! Sell those copper swords BITCH.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    I typically find life too short to get through RPGs like this once in most cases.

    Remakes are lovely things, but they are for gentle folk with far more free time than I.

    I make time for good RPGs, especially remakes.

    Then again, I'm a walking nostalgia machine. I may live in the present, but I game in the past.

    Remember that you don't have to play an RPG in a few marathon sessions. A dungeon here, a miniquest there. It took me almost three years to beat Golden Sun, playing it for 15 minute chunks every week or so. I enjoyed the crap out of that playstyle. I'm not even saying GS was particularly good, but it was somehow more enjoyable to me by playing it in very small chunks.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Turkey wrote: »
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    Meh on FFIV. It's the same game for the GBA, but with 3D visuals. Big whoop.

    Now, DQIV, on the other hand, is something I can get behind.

    But....DQIV is the same game as in SNES, but with better visuals...

    You mean NES. And yes, I am pissed they canceled the port of the PSX remake.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    darkmayo wrote: »
    Mmmm cant wait for DQIV ... damn that reminds me, one thing I loved the shit out of the DQ/DW series was the weapon and armor artwork they would do and include with the game. Back in the days of 8 bit sprites it helped my brain vision what my guys were using.

    I am going to make me some money with Taloon. Boooyah! Sell those copper swords BITCH.

    Best part was that wasn't even the original art - it was custom art for the US version. I guess they thought that US gamers would be turned off by Toriyama's designs.

    Of course, we get to DQIII for the GBA, and someone suddenly realizes exactly HOW big DBZ is here.

    Bam, Toriyama's name becomes a fucking bullet point on the back of the box.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I still say the worst made for the USA RPG art is Breath of Fire II's box.

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Furu wrote: »
    I still say the worst made for the USA RPG art is Breath of Fire II's box.



    That one was pretty crappy but Suikoden had SHIT for art.

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  • BantryBantry Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I've never played FF4.

    I kinda want to wait for the fancy 3D version, but the GBA version's 10 pound (import) pricetag is mighty tempting.

    Who am I kidding, I'll probably end up getting the DS version too.

    I mostly enjoyed FF3, exept for that last bit. An hour long dungeon followed by instant death from the final boss. Yeah, I'm never playing that again.

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  • ethicalseanethicalsean Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    darkmayo wrote: »
    Mmmm cant wait for DQIV ... damn that reminds me, one thing I loved the shit out of the DQ/DW series was the weapon and armor artwork they would do and include with the game. Back in the days of 8 bit sprites it helped my brain vision what my guys were using.

    I am going to make me some money with Taloon. Boooyah! Sell those copper swords BITCH.

    I always imagine Taloon making his way to the employee lounge to bitch about his latest customer getting all riled up over the trade in price of bamboo sticks or how his boss caught him hiding the Sword of Lethargy under the counter from customers.

    Le sigh... this game better make it state-side.

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