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Mass Effect - 8 days until you already know what happens from the spoilers you read

PancakePancake Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Games and Technology
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"A Spectacular New Vision of the Future"

Exclusively for the Xbox 360, Mass Effect is BioWare's latest RPG and their greatest venture yet.

An epic space opera of an unprecedented scale, Mass Effect will take you across the galaxy to the greatest bastions of civilization to wild uncharted worlds fraught with danger.

Wherever you go, whatever decisions you make, you might just change the face of the civilized galaxy.


The year is 2183.

Thirty-five years have passed since mankind discovered the technology of the Protheans on Mars and humanity's first mass relay and took to the stars.

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Wars have been fought, rivalries have formed, colonies have been raided, people have died, but stoically pressing on, humanity has grown and thrived and has begun to earn its place among the great alien civilizations far older than humanity could dream of.

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You are Commander Shepard...

You are a promising officer in the Alliance military and because of your record and recent events, you have caught the attention of Nihlus, one of the Council's elite Spectre (SPECial Tactics and REcon) agents. You have been selected to become the first human Spectre.

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But Saren, one of the Council's most effective and brutal Spectres has gone rogue. He has reappeared seemingly allied with an army of Geth, a three hundred year old machine race that has, until now, remained isolated from the rest of the galaxy. Saren is brutal, he is efficient, and he is no stranger to murder or torture. He will stop at nothing to achieve his goals, whatever they are, and there is little he hates more than he does humanity.

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As a fledgling Spectre, it's your task to stop him by any means necessary.

You are outside the law. You answer to no one but the Council and are free to use any means at your disposal to achieve your goals. Kill, maim, and murder if it gets you what you need or be forgiving and kind. The choice is yours to make, but there are consequences to both sides of the coin. Some you may not even see coming.

"You must act without remorse, without hesitation, and outside the limits of the law."


... and you can look however you like.

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Using an Oblivion-like character creator that stresses ease of use in addition to comprehensiveness of options, you'll be able to create your Commander Shepard in minutes.


Confirm military specialization.

In Mass Effect, there are six different character classes, each with their own specializations and abilities.

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Details on all the classes and the tech abilities are available in the spoiler:
Soldier
Soldiers are combat specialists ideal for the front lines of a firefight. Soldiers begin the game trained with skills in both pistols and assault rifles, they have improved health and the ability to wear medium combat armor. As you progress through the game you can unlock assault training, skills with shotguns and sniper rifles, become able to perform first aid on yourself and party members, and wear heavy combat armor.

Starting Talents:

* Pistols
* Assault Rifles
* Combat Armor (medium to start,
upgrading to heavy)
* Fitness

Unlockable Talents:

* Shotguns
* Sniper Rifles
* First Aid
* Assault Training


Engineer
Engineers are tech specialists. Using the holographic OmniTool they can decrypt security systems, repair and/or modify technical equipment, disrupt enemy weapons or shields and heal their party. Even though they begin the game with only pistols and the OmniTool, engineers can unlock the ability to wear light armor and to reverse engineer enemy technology. They can also learn to put up protective shields and to heal the party.

Starting Talents:

* Pistols
* Electronics
* Decryption
* First Aid

Unlockable Talents:

* Basic Armor (light only)
* AI Hacking
* Damping
* Medicine

Adept
Adepts are biotic specialists. Starting out equipped with pistols and light armor, the true strength of the adept is through the upgradeable implants that give them their biotic powers. These powers can be used to lift or throw objects, shield the party and disable or destroy enemies.

Starting Talents:

* Basic Armor (light only)
* Throw
* Barrier
* Warp

Unlockable Talents:

* Pistols
* Lift
* Stasis
* Singularity

Infiltrator
Infiltrators combine combat and tech abilities, and specialize in killing or disabling enemies at long range. Infiltrators are trained to use OmniTools, but the focus is on decryption and offensive abilities rather than healing. They can train with pistols or sniper rifles, and can learn to wear medium armor.

Starting Talents:

* Pistols
* Tactical Armor (light to start, upgrading to medium)
* Electronics
* Decryption

Unlockable Talents:

* Sniper Rifles
* Fitness
* Damping
* First Aid

Vanguard
Vanguards are biotic warriors. They combine offensive biotic abilities and weapons training to quickly take down opponents, and are especially deadly at short range. They can train with pistols and shotguns, and can learn to wear medium armor.

Starting Talents:

* Pistols
* Fitness
* Throw
* Warp

Unlockable Talents:

* Shotguns
* Tactical Armor (light to start, upgrading to medium)
* Lift
* Barrier

Sentinel
Sentinels combine biotic and tech abilities. Typically they use biotic abilities and advanced healing skills to defend allies, though they can also disrupt opponents with biotic or Tech attacks. They are more efficient at tech and biotics than other classes, but at the expense of combat. Sentinels can only use light armor, and receive no advanced weapon training.

Starting Talents:

* Throw
* Barrier
* Decryption
* First Aid

Unlockable Talents:

* Lift
* Stasis
* Electronics
* Medicine
The Tech talents actually got a bit of a shuffling during our final round of work on the talent system. Each one grants you one active combat power, and gives you a passive bonus. We've currently got the following:

Decryption - Lets you unlock containers and doors, and gain access to locked computer terminals. Grants the Sabotage proximity mine, which overheats the weapons of any enemy caught in the blast. Also boosts the damage of all three mine powers.

Electronics - Lets you repair, bypass, or modify objects. Grants the Overload proximity mine, which does extreme shield damage to any enemy caught in the blast. Also increases the shielding provided by your armor.

AI Hacking - Grants the AI Hacking ability, which drives a single robotic target berserk (they'll attack each other, but can also turn on you if you get too close). Reduces the cooldown time on all three mine powers, so you can use them more often.

Damping - Grants the Damping proximity mine, which temporarily disables the Tech and Biotic powers of any enemy caught in the blast. Also increases the explosion radius of the three mine powers.

First Aid - Increases the amount of health restored when you heal your squad. If multiple squad members have First Aid then they all contribute to the amount restored.

Medicine - Reduces the cooldown time on First Aid, so you can heal your squad more often. Once again, all squad members with Medicine contribute towards this reduction. Also grants the Neural Shock ability which knocks out and does toxic damage to a single organic target.


Where have you been?

During character creation, not only will you be choosing how you look and picking your class, you will also be selecting Shepard's background. There are two selections to be made from six different options:

Pre-service History

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Everyone came from somewhere. How Shepard grew up and decided to go into the military are chosen here.

Psych Profile

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Not everyone thinks the same way. Not everyone's experiences in the military will be the same. How life has shaped your mind and reputation are chosen under your psych profile.

But these aren't arbitrary choices. Depending on what you choose, NPCs will react differently to you. Some may consider an Earthborn and their family to be cowards as they didn't take off into space the rest of humanity. Others may respect it.

Because of the different ways your Shepard will be reacted to, your choices will also cut off some quest lines, but they will also open up others.

Your choices here will never restrict you in your choices later in the game, but these two options will make up your reputation based on actions and accomplishments that occurred before the events of the game.


Too many people died here, Fist. You don't get to walk away.

Tired of simply selecting clear-cut and simple dialogue options from a list?

Well, you're in luck! With Mass Effect, BioWare is introducing a new dialogue system that features characters that actually interact with one another.

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The options are short and very to the point. They aren't supposed to get across the whole message, but rather a thought or feeling. A very base reaction to what's happening or what was just said. Once an option is selected, your character acts on their own and a selection of a very simple option can lead to interesting and diverse interactions between characters.

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Interrogating Fist
Wrex Confrontation


I'm going to be evil!

Sorry, but you can't really. You'll always be working towards a greater good. The "bad" options aren't unrepentant evil so much as ruthless. You can be... good bad, though.

The alignment system here isn't quite the same as we've seen in KOTOR and Jade Empire.

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As you can see, there are two meters there around Shepard's head. One labeled Paragon and another Renegade.

As you do kind or compassionate acts, you fill up your Paragon meter. Act ruthlessly and uncompromisingly, you fill up your Renegade meter. This is different than KOTOR and JE as you can never empty either meter. You're building a reputation for yourself, not your character's alignment.

People won't automatically forget your bad deeds because you helped someone out enough to go back to the light side, as it were. You can never get rid of your past.


So I hear the game is big.

You heard right! The game has over 300 locations to explore, ranging from so large you'll need your tank, the Mako, the get around to very small and little larger than a room.

On the Normandy, you'll be able to use the galaxy map.

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You may notice several points on the map. Those are sectors you can go to. The interesting thing? That's not the extent of the galaxy map. You'll be able to zoom in to each one, look at individual star systems, and even take a close look at individual planets. Knights of the Old Republic this is not.

And the cursor that you use to move around the galaxy map is free floating. Not only will you be able to select known locations, but using the free floating cursor, you'll be able to "scan" for uncharted worlds.

As for gameplay length, BioWare is talking about 20-30 hours for the main storyline and around 70-80 hours of total gameplay when you include all the optional content.


I read it's like Diablo 2 with guns in the other thread.

Yes, you did, but that's not quite right.

It plays much like a tactical third-person shooter, though your stats will affect your performance in combat.

Combat itself takes place in a very Resident Evil 4-esque camera view where you're looking over Shepard's shoulder, but you have the ability to free aim. There is also supposed to be the option for more helpful auto-aiming to help out those that aren't shooter fans. You will also find that there is a very familiar cover system like you may have seen in Gears of War.

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During combat, you'll also have full control over your two squadmates. At any time, you can order them to move to any location with a quick press of the D-pad or you'll be able to use the radial interface, which pauses the game and gives you complete and total control of all of your squadmates' targets and the abilities they use.

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With these options, you'll have the ability to let the AI handle everything, or you'll have the option to completely micromanage your entire squad in combat. You will not, however, be able to switch over to control any member of your squad. You are always Shepard.

Most videos that show the combat look slow and awkward, but that's because they've been trying to take it slow in the videos to show how everything works. When played more quickly, it's very smooth and nice.

Soldier Combat Scenario
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Normandy with no paratroopers? What about beaches?

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This is the Normandy, your ship. It's the most advanced starship in the galaxy and, though built by humanity, was partially funded by the Citadel Council. It's a stealth ship about the size of a 747 and has been likened to a submarine by BioWare.

You will never directly pilot the Normandy, but it is how you will travel between locations in space and it will also effect your insertions into locations in various ways.

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Introducing the Mako.

Say hello to the Mako, your heavily armed and armored all-terrain APC.

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The Mako will be your primary form of transportation in large open areas, too large to traverse quickly on foot and too dangerous to cross unprotected. It will also be one method of insertion into hostile areas for you. Once the Mako is loaded with personnel, the SSV Normandy can fly at relatively low altitude and drop the Mako out the back, exposing the Normandy to low levels of risk and quickly inserting the marine strike team into hostile territory.

It sports two weapons: a large turret mounted cannon and some form of machinegun also mounted on the turret. Using these weapons, you'll be able to shoot things.

In addition to its weaponry, the Mako is equipped with top and bottom mounted thrusters, which can be used to slow its descent during free fall, right itself if flipped, and even be used to hop while on the ground to avoid enemy fire.

But this isn't another turret mini-game like in KotOR or a schmup mini-game like in Jade Empire. No, this time, you'll have full control over your driving and shooting and you'll be able to traverse a variety of terrain.

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What does "Mass Effect" actually mean?

All of the most advanced technology in the Mass Effect universe is based off one thing and only one thing: the manipulation of dark energy.

When you manipulate dark energy in the proper way, you create a mass effect field.

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Inside a mass effect field, the laws of physics and the way they interact with mass can be bent, changed, and outright broken. This allows for a colossal starship to be made exempt from normal physical laws and while subject to new ones, can, quite easily, be propelled faster than light.

This is what we learned from the Protheans, and being the basis of most technology in the universe, is where the game gets its name.


How do biotics fit in?

A biotic is a person born with the innate ability to feel the presence of dark energy. With proper training, it can even be done consciously.

If someone with this ability is found, through extensive surgery, they can be fitted with implants that interface into their nervous system and, using their innate senses, allow them to manipulate dark energy and shape mass effect fields for a variety of effects that are deadly or, alternatively, beneficial to the recipient.

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Wait, there's a book?

Yes, yes there is! It's a prequel novel filled with backstory and details on the rich Mass Effect universe. I'd recommend reading it if you have any interest in Mass Effect. It's not the best book ever written, but it's entertaining and it has guns and aliens and they fight and shoot at eachother and stuff.

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When's this thing come out?

The official release date is November 20th for North America, November 22nd in Australia, and November 23rd for Europe.

The limited edition is, unfortunately, online only.

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Taste defeat!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    This game looks amazing, November can't come soon enough. Isn't there a special pre-order bonus that is only available online?

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    That classes list is super long and thin - you might wanna spoiler that.

    Otherwise, bravo! We have a new Mass Effect thread! It smells of freshly opened plastic.

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    The Effect... it's full of Mass!

    I can't wait for this game, ever since last year's E3 demo it's been at the top of my list.

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  • darleysamdarleysam UKRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    i still haven't pre-ordered this, but i know i will, because it is my 'next big game' that i must play.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So I'm really hoping they keep up a decent pace with DLC. It would be excellent to have a new planet to explore every month or so.

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Taste defeat!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So I'm really hoping they keep up a decent pace with DLC. It would be excellent to have a new planet to explore every month or so.

    Is there any mention on how big the game world already is?

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    40 hour core story elements and more if you delve into the extras is what I've been hearing. I may have that wrong though so don't quote me on it.

    ALso, it's gone gold.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    MetaHybrid wrote: »
    So I'm really hoping they keep up a decent pace with DLC. It would be excellent to have a new planet to explore every month or so.

    Is there any mention on how big the game world already is?

    They've said there are 300 "things" you can visit and explore, ranging in size from very large to very small. The main storyline is 20-30 hours long depending on pace and there is estimated to be near 70-80 hours of content all together.

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    As awesome as this game looks, it irks me when people stretch acronyms to words (i.e. spectre).

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  • MetaHybridMetaHybrid Taste defeat!Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Pancake wrote: »
    MetaHybrid wrote: »
    So I'm really hoping they keep up a decent pace with DLC. It would be excellent to have a new planet to explore every month or so.

    Is there any mention on how big the game world already is?

    They've said there are 300 "things" you can visit and explore, ranging in size from very large to very small. The main storyline is 20-30 hours long depending on pace and there is estimated to be near 70-80 hours of content all together.

    Well Hot Damn.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Also, they're working on DLC as we speak, and they expect to have some out quite soon after release.

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  • TravanTravan Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    As awesome as this game looks, it irks me when people stretch acronyms to words (i.e. spectre).

    Same here, though I guess its a good thing that that's the only issue I have with the game so far.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    It went gold today: Hooray!
    Still comes out in November: Boo-urns!

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User
    edited October 2007
    I wasn't excited for this game 'till the first post of this thread. I've been avoiding everything.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Travan wrote: »
    As awesome as this game looks, it irks me when people stretch acronyms to words (i.e. spectre).

    Same here, though I guess its a good thing that that's the only issue I have with the game so far.

    Truth be told in the Army and probably the other branches of the U.S. Military, acronyms like that are common. So it doesn't bother me at all.


    OT: This game is so close to release for me that I can taste it and it tastes delicious!

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  • Arch Guru XXArch Guru XX Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I have not really been following Mass Effect, so I have what is probably a dumb question - what is the combat like? Is this a pure RPG? Do you actually aim and fire your weapons yourself but accumulate stat points as you use them? From what I've seen the overall game universe looks interesting, but I don't know enough about the game mechanics to know if I'd be interested or not.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I have not really been following Mass Effect, so I have what is probably a dumb question - what is the combat like? Is this a pure RPG? Do you actually aim and fire your weapons yourself but accumulate stat points as you use them? From what I've seen the overall game universe looks interesting, but I don't know enough about the game mechanics to know if I'd be interested or not.

    It plays like a tactical third-person shooter. There are several videos out there of it.

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  • KungFuKungFu Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    It probably isn't since I just see 360 logos up in here, but is this coming out for PC at all? Ever?

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    KungFu wrote: »
    It probably isn't since I just see 360 logos up in here, but is this coming out for PC at all? Ever?

    BioWare "isn't talking about it" right now. They've said in the past that seeing a PC port within the next five years is very unlikely but nothing is set in stone.

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  • the Togfatherthe Togfather Registered User
    edited October 2007
    <Obligatory 'huzzah' of excitement here>

    Also to mark the thread so I find it easier later on.

    The biggest shame is how long this will sit unplayed on my shelf. Damn you Rock Band et. al.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Pancake wrote: »
    I have not really been following Mass Effect, so I have what is probably a dumb question - what is the combat like? Is this a pure RPG? Do you actually aim and fire your weapons yourself but accumulate stat points as you use them? From what I've seen the overall game universe looks interesting, but I don't know enough about the game mechanics to know if I'd be interested or not.

    It plays like a tactical third-person shooter. There are several videos out there of it.

    Here's a fairly decent, recent one. Like I've said before, though, apparently he's going slow to show everything off, and the allies had their AI set to "don't use powers" so that he could show off the tactical orders system.

    Still looks like some brilliantly fun combat though.

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I doubt the wait for this to be PC ported will be as long as Jade Empire's was.

    Speaking of Jade Empire, I guess it'll have to hold me over for awhile.

    KOTOR is my favorite RPG, and I'm really looking forward to this hitting PC eventually.

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  • Mei HikariMei Hikari Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    My first playthrough will be eviiiiiil. I will make an adept who looks like this:
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    Second playthrough will be schyzo infiltrator:
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    :)

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I updated the OP in response to some of the questions asked here even though they've already been answered.

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  • Regicid3Regicid3 Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I really hate this online only nonsense.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    All my mouths are salivating.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    HadjiQuest wrote: »
    I doubt the wait for this to be PC ported will be as long as Jade Empire's was.

    Speaking of Jade Empire, I guess it'll have to hold me over for awhile.

    KOTOR is my favorite RPG, and I'm really looking forward to this hitting PC eventually.

    History and the statements Bioware has made indicate that it will be a longer wait than even Jade Empire, if it comes at all.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    And if it doesn't, you'll always have KOTOR.

    Sadly lacking in alien lesbian babes though!

    EDIT: Urg... except Juhani

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So I read the book about a month ago. The one thing that bothered me (and maybe I just missed it) but, have they explained how all the alien races and humans communicate with each other. Because I don't remember reading it anywhere.

    Edit: I would imagine it has something to do with the prothean technology but I wasn't sure.

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  • CokomonCokomon Our butts are worth fighting for! Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    So I read the book about a month ago. The one thing that bothered me (and maybe I just missed it) but, have they explained how all the alien races and humans communicate with each other. Because I don't remember reading it anywhere.

    Edit: I would imagine it has something to do with the prothean technology but I wasn't sure.

    The Babelfish.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I used to hang out on the ME forums a lot, and the devs said at one point that everything aliens say to you is auto-translated by computers, and that's why aliens all have that slightly electronic twinge to their voice.

    I know that doesn't really answer your question, but it's something.

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  • Dirty DrawersDirty Drawers Registered User
    edited October 2007
    I think I have the 4 characters I plan to play.

    1. Good side lesbian adept
    2. Bad side male Soldier
    3. Bad side lesbian sniper or infiltrator
    4. Good side male *fill in the blank*

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  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Quick question(s). Today's IGN article about the game going gold mentioned this:
    BioWare is also offering an exclusive bonus disc to buyers who preorder either edition of the game at participating retailers. That disc includes:


    * A short documentary on DVD introducing the game

    * 12 Mass Effect themed gamer pics (two unique sets of six)

    * Eight dashboard themes (two unique sets of four)

    * Three songs from the Mass Effect soundtrack on a CD

    * Four historical Mass Effect trailers from X05 through E3 2007 on DVD

    * A demo for Blue Dragon and videos for Lost Odyssey, Halo 3 and Halo Wars
    Am I right in understanding that this disc is included in addition to the CE stuff? And does anyone who these "participating retailers" are? Is this also web only, or is it web and in store?

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  • kitchkitch Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    I think I have the 4 characters I plan to play.

    1. Good side lesbian adept
    2. Bad side male Soldier
    3. Bad side lesbian sniper or infiltrator
    4. Good side male *fill in the blank*

    But you can play neutral too! Think of the possibilities!

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  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko Registered User
    edited October 2007
    I think I have the 4 characters I plan to play.

    1. Good side lesbian adept
    2. Bad side male Soldier
    3. Bad side lesbian sniper or infiltrator
    4. Good side male *...lesbian*

    ?

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  • Dirty DrawersDirty Drawers Registered User
    edited October 2007
    kitch wrote: »
    I think I have the 4 characters I plan to play.

    1. Good side lesbian adept
    2. Bad side male Soldier
    3. Bad side lesbian sniper or infiltrator
    4. Good side male *fill in the blank*

    But you can play neutral too! Think of the possibilities!

    A neutral lesbian. Alien, hybrid, human threesome!

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    Fools shall not be pitied.
  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Your alignment isn't set to a single bar like it was in KOTOR and Jade Empire. Why would you limit all your playthroughs to a single side like that? You aren't shoehorned into moving up and down a sliding scale.

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  • Zetetic ElenchZetetic Elench Registered User regular
    edited October 2007
    Pancake wrote: »
    Your alignment isn't set to a single bar like it was in KOTOR and Jade Empire. Why would you limit all your playthroughs to a single side like that? You aren't shoehorned into moving up and down a sliding scale.

    Besides, commander; insults won't get you the info you need.

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  • Dirty DrawersDirty Drawers Registered User
    edited October 2007
    I prefer to play my games fully good, or fully bad. If I want to be neutral I just go to work and ignore one employees plea for help, while I help the big boobed girl that doesn't really need my help, but furthers my own selfish needs.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User
    edited October 2007
    So, my countdown says 27 days.

    27 days until I buy the most expensive game I've ever bought, because it comes with compulsory Xbox 360 attachment.

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