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    Ness445Ness445 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    OKAY I asked my mom who is a medical ethicist:

    -Its not a clear cut situation
    -If the doctor feels that nothing they can say will impress upon the minor the risks of sex (pregnancy especially) then they can make a judgement call to inform the family
    -Depends on the country as well
    -If the minor turns out to HAVE an STD/STI then the doctor may tell them that he has to inform their parents
    it seems like the doctor would regardless tell the girl she might have to tell her mother, instead of just doing it behind her back.

    not that I think this would really change the situation, but you should still be clear on your intent.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Caulk Bite wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    pony has been driving himself to the doctor's since he was 10. Therefore England sucks

    or, you know, taking the bus or walking. but that's just silly

    or, you know, getting a ride from my mom but her waiting in the lobby while i talk to my doctor in private

    monkeyfeet are you drunk

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    MonkeyfeetMonkeyfeet Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Caulk Bite wrote: »
    Monkeyfeet wrote: »
    pony has been driving himself to the doctor's since he was 10. Therefore England sucks

    or, you know, taking the bus or walking. but that's just silly

    or, you know, getting a ride from my mom but her waiting in the lobby while i talk to my doctor in private

    monkeyfeet are you drunk

    who isn't these days?

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I knew a kid from the States who drove from the age of 13 or 14 because he lived miles from civilisation and there was something called a "hardship clause" or similar exempting him from the usual driving laws

    Or was he full of shit?

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Today I was supposed to teach at 10:15
    I woke up and looked at the clock and said 9:05

    A few minutes later I realized it was daylight savings
    FML

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    MonkeyfeetMonkeyfeet Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    the spring daylight savings clock change is the worst

    you can end up late for so much shit

    at least with the fall change, the worst that can happen for the most part is you show up way early for shit

    with the spring one, you're all "ah, what a beautiful morning" and you're an hour late for work

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    zimfanzimfan Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    I'm not actually sure that is a breach of ethics. Until you're a certain age over here your doctor is responsible for informing your parents of important medical snafu.

    i don't think "your daughter is having sex by the way" is an important medical issue

    14 year olds are children, and having sex opens said children up to a lot of potential health hazards.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I knew a kid from the States who drove from the age of 13 or 14 because he lived miles from civilisation and there was something called a "hardship clause" or similar exempting him from the usual driving laws

    Or was he full of shit?

    I don't know about hardship but I knew plenty of farm kids who had farmers licenses at young ages.

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    the spring daylight savings clock change is the worst

    you can end up late for so much shit

    at least with the fall change, the worst that can happen for the most part is you show up way early for shit

    with the spring one, you're all "ah, what a beautiful morning" and you're an hour late for work

    Well I live pretty close to where I work so I managed to get there on time. But it was still not the best start to a day

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I knew a kid from the States who drove from the age of 13 or 14 because he lived miles from civilisation and there was something called a "hardship clause" or similar exempting him from the usual driving laws

    Or was he full of shit?

    Completely accurate. I had a buddy who was fifteen with a Hardship License.

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Hi5 VoC/Waiter I'd been wondering about that for a while, I'd just forgotten that I'd been wondering about it

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    RocketScienceRocketScience Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I knew a kid from the States who drove from the age of 13 or 14 because he lived miles from civilisation and there was something called a "hardship clause" or similar exempting him from the usual driving laws

    Or was he full of shit?

    Completely accurate. I had a buddy who was fifteen with a Hardship License.

    But was his doctor allowed to tell his parents about it?

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    I'm not actually sure that is a breach of ethics. Until you're a certain age over here your doctor is responsible for informing your parents of important medical snafu.

    i don't think "your daughter is having sex by the way" is an important medical issue

    14 year olds are children, and having sex opens said children up to a lot of potential health hazards.

    Come on, it probably happened after 3:30.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I knew one kid who had a farmers license but his family didn't own a farm in the traditional sense. They had oyster beds. That was the strangest one.

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    Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This bitch is retarded.
    Today, I was at a restaurant with my boyfriend. I look him straight in the eye and ask him: "What's the first thing you think about when you look at me?". His answer: "Can I finish my steak?" FML

    Seriously, why the fuck do some women do this? Is your need for validation that strong? Or can you not see that my steak is much more interesting than you?

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    i've been with women who ask weird questions like that

    i don't understand it

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    That video makes me favor things like involuntarily sterilization and capital punishment for minors.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    i've been with women who ask weird questions like that

    i don't understand it

    That is nature's way of telling you, "hey, I know this probably feels good, but it is very, very bad."

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I've been with women who had been with men who ask weird questions like that (and those men probably did it because they thought women would dig it)

    Presumably my shallow simplicity was a welcome relief

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    CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    OFF-TOPIC: Does anyone here have Guild Wars? i could see myself playing it again with people from here :P

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm pretty sure the average age for first times is under the limit, everyone would be in jail.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    it is here in florida and many other states

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

    here, the older of the 2 having sex is charged with stautory

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

    here, the older of the 2 having sex is charged with stautory
    What if they're born the same minute

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

    here, the older of the 2 having sex is charged with stautory
    What if they're born the same minute

    in that highly unlikely case, it would be by the second

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

    here, the older of the 2 having sex is charged with stautory
    What if they're born the same minute

    Then the judge pulls off his wig, rubs his brow, waves his gavel in the air and randomly picks one. Because judges don't need to deal with this hypothetical bullshit.

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    What if they are twins who came out of the womb at the same time, fucking each other. PICTURE IT!

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited March 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I can't speak for America, but in the UK that definitely isn't true. I doubt it is in the states either. A minor can be charged for statuatory rape just like anyone else

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    defender that's just too far

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Also, seriously, age of consent laws do not make underage parties into the criminals, for god's sake. "That five-year-old raped his teacher! What a monster! I just hope that old Mr. Kidfuck can find a way to soldier on."

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cristo wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »

    it wasn't until years later she realized what a massive breach of ethics her doctor committed and how she should've seriously done something about it

    I'm not sure it's that massive a breach though, since assmuing you live in America, the legal age for sexual intercourse is what 16 - 18 in most states?

    So she was technically breaking the law. I know in Denmark Doctors are advised if not obligated to tell the parents of a girl who wants to have an abortion or is having one if she's younger than 15 years (which is the age of consent in Denmark).

    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I'm not sure whether or not that makes more sense than the alternative interpretations where the two youngsters are in fact raping each other

    Maybe I just got mixed up in one of those cases where I start thinking the common sense answer is the actual law.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but it's certainly almost never enforced.

    Is it?

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    EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I guess the age of consent is a hugeass minefield when you get right down to it. I mean, does the States think we're a nation of child abusers because ours is 16 rather than 18

    Actually wait they'd think we're a nation of child abusers because of all the recent child deaths due to terrible parents and a fucked-up social service

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    unintentionalunintentional smelly Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    hahaha Mr. Kidfuck

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    DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Scooter wrote: »
    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I can't speak for America, but in the UK that definitely isn't true. I doubt it is in the states either. A minor can be charged for statuatory rape just like anyone else

    I bet if you're fifteen and you fuck a five-year-old, they punish you in some way. If you're fifteen and you fuck a fourteen-year-old, I'm almost certain that you are not in trouble in this country.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I guess the age of consent is a hugeass minefield when you get right down to it. I mean, does the States think we're a nation of child abusers because ours is 16 rather than 18

    Actually wait they'd think we're a nation of child abusers because of all the recent child deaths due to terrible parents and a fucked-up social service

    In some states its 16.


    Which does sort of fuck with the whole morality of the thing, if screwing a 17 year old is illegal in one spot but fine if you cross state lines.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    It's illegal for someone over the age to have sex with someone younger than the age. It's not illegal for two underage people to have sex.

    I can't speak for America, but in the UK that definitely isn't true. I doubt it is in the states either. A minor can be charged for statuatory rape just like anyone else

    I bet if you're fifteen and you fuck a five-year-old, they punish you in some way. If you're fifteen and you fuck a fourteen-year-old, I'm almost certain that you are not in trouble in this country.

    You are in less trouble, but in no way is that legal.

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