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The TV Thread: Holiday 2010 has ALREADY begun!
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Is this still the case? Do HDTVs tend to handle computer connections badly still, or has it improved such that I can play ME2 or TF2 on forty six glorious inches without resorting to a console?
so awesome
This used to be a major problem. I'm not sure how much of the fault was the TV, but a good chunk of the blame definitely fell on driver support. And this one was equally shared between AMD and Nvidia. I couldn't tell you when, but at some point this got handled. I can't speak to the colorspace issues, but the real thing used to be overscan...your TV would display standard resolutions from the computer (say 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc) bigger than the actual screen, resulting in the border of the image being hidden. In games this usually meant part of your HUD. The typical fix used to be underscanning...you would go into your driver setup and shrink your resolution, resulting in nonstandard values that at least fit your screen. There were two problems with this...the scaling didn't always work, and games that didn't pull resolutions from Windows or allow custom resolutions couldn't support this fix.
On my current TV with my 5870, I'm not even underscanning and I'm not noticing any missing images on the screen. So I think this is all resolved now.
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Figured I'd ask again since it's been a couple days and no one answered. Anyone have experience with buying online for big tvs?
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But I also buy everything that isn't groceries online.
I'm considering the 2011 Panasonic line but there's quality reviews to go on yet.
3D not important, just want decent black levels and a good picture.
Any help would be great!
They just reviewed the new Sony's and they seemed kinda shitty.
That's because they're not out yet. The TVs are announced at CES in January but they typically don't hit market until way later. I forget when they started being released last year but I don't think it was until May at the earliest. For example, Panasonic's GT25 line didn't go live until August.
For what you're looking for, for what almost anyone is looking for, the better deal is going to be to grab a 2010 model on sale rather than wait for the 2011 models. I will be very surprised if the quality improvement is substantial enough to justify skipping out on this ridiculous TV that is still half off for who knows what reason.
I really don't mean to sound like a broken record or a Panasonic shill but seriously if you are willing to spend $1000 and are happy with a 50" size there really isn't a single other TV to look at unless you're a business looking for a demo set that is going to be on 24/7.
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Fucking wow.
Edit: $800 being the lowest it's been, but it has been hovering around there for a while now.
http://slickdeals.net/sdsearch.php?forumchoice[]=9&search=viera&mode=forum&showposts=0&sdsearch_archive=0&firstpost=1
I guess the TC-P50VT20 is a Best Buy only model but it's identical to the TC-P50VT25.
cnet and ZDnet both give it great reviews.
I think I'm going to pick it up.
Any have any experience with it?
Personally, no. But I have extensive experience with the GT25, and the VT is another step up. It was roundly reviewed as the top TV of 2010. I usually don't mention it because most people are more concerned about price than top quality but if $1600 doesn't bother you than absolutely pick it up.
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Any word on either?
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Gonna sleep on it and most likely pick it up tomorrow.
I'm kinda nervous since my current TV is a 27 inch Panasonic that I've had for about 9 years now so this is going to be quite the upgrade for me.
I'm going to need a new stand for it as well since my current one is about as old as the TV too, haha.
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How good of a friend is this? As in, how likely is he to screw you over?
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46' Panasonic GT25 3D HDTV and Stand
Blurays look great, I'm going to start using my DVDs as coasters now.
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We've had our Samsung Plasma for close to two years now, and wow. It's amazing what a good set of speakers does.
Sign of having a kid - first thing shown on the new 50" Plasma - Pokemon Black and White.
Now, quick question - we're going to buy Blu Ray for it mostly because my 360 is going into our game room so we need a Netflix device. Any advice on a $150ish Blu Ray player/brand?
Which, last I'd heard, is one of the best blu ray players on the market.
Nope, rent. Fortunately the living room already has some predrilled holes under the rug in the corners from the prior tenant's DirecTV installation. The landlord is totally ok with an extra hole if needed too (which I think I'll need for the Ethernet.
Now the scary part, my wife and 6 year old son are out buying our first Blu Ray discs. I'm kind of worried what they're going to end up with!
seem false. I want 24fps because that's how movies have always looked and because that's what the filmmaker intended. I associate smoothness with soap operas, but I don't see why movies couldn't have been (or cannot in the future be) smooth like butter.
Yeah, that bit is a little over the top with liking the smell of his own (and other filmmakers') farts, but I think it's because we've had 100 years of training that 24fps = movies = storytelling/fiction = fantastical, and 30p/60i = news/soaps/documentary/home movie = reality (well, except for the soaps), so his statement is more the end result of the way things are, rather than reason for the way things are.
And I don't really see major motion pictures moving away from 24 fps any time soon, for a few technical reasons. A big one is special effects. A lot of the stuff from ILM and Weta and the others take many hours per frame to render; if Transformers was shot in 30p, there would be 6 more frames per second of footage to render; if each frame takes 8 hours to render (not an uncommon amount of time for those kinds of movies), that's an additional 2 days per second of footage to render. That would add weeks or potentially months to production time. Also, the motion blur inherent to 24p with a 180 degree shutter helps blend SFX into shots. With the right motion blur, Harry Potter swooping around Hogwarts during the quidditch match looks fine; motion smoothed, the same scene doesn't look any better than a video game.
Now you're right, as we move to 100% digital production & distribution, there's nothing stopping filmmakers from using different fps for shooting & playback (60p can actually look kinda cool), but it'll be an artistic choice to create a certain look and feel, and to get a certain response from the viewer, all of which is based on the years of precedent with movies at 24p and video at 60i.
And it'll suck if our TVs try to jack with that.