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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    zimfan wrote: »
    his greatest role was Piccolo

    Nah

    Spike was his best

    I don't know, did the dog from Rugrats even talk? I know they got Bruce Willis to play him in that movie that one time.

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    zimfanzimfan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    zimfan wrote: »
    his greatest role was Piccolo

    Nah

    Spike was his best

    I don't know, did the dog from Rugrats even talk? I know they got Bruce Willis to play him in that movie that one time.

    Yeah, in the Thornberry's crossover maybe

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Okay, Michael is awesome.

    The way everything around him sort of just falls into place in really convenient ways kept me laughing.

    He is like Ned Flanders with a holy sword.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Okay, Michael is awesome.

    The way everything around him sort of just falls into place in really convenient ways kept me laughing.

    He is like Ned Flanders with a holy sword.

    All of the Knights are awesome - especially the Russkie.

    One of the things that I really appreciate about Butcher's writing is that, unlike in so many, many fantasy stories (and especially those that take place in RPGs), the Church is actually a good guy. It's a refreshing change of pace.

    Also, the end of Changes: At least Butcher, unlike, say, Martin or Jordan, will have the next book out in a reasonable time frame. :)

    So, what other good series are there with a similar set-up to the Dresden Files ("modern fantasy", I guess)? I read the Anita Blake books and liked them until they turned into really bad porn with the monster of the week. There's a bunch by ... Kim Harrison? ... that I've seen. Are they any good?

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kim Harrison's stuff is...like Anita Blake, but less bad porn (although that is still pretty much in there)

    It isn't bad, but its not particularly good either.

    Also something about tomatoes killing everyone, if I recall? So most humans are wary of tomatoes?

    Its really weird, but I guess it technically is "Urban Fantasy"

    i wish i didn't know this stuff; living in a co-ed dorm and being exceptionally bored led me to read some of my friend's worse books

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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    For stuff similar to Dresden, you might want to check out Mean Streets. You'll get a taste of some other authors and you can see what you think; if you like them they've all got established series to jump into.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Changes needs to make its way to the kindle very quickly! I just finished book 11 and I need book 12!

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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    These books sound neat. Should I pick them up?

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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Seriously wrote: »
    Chlorofiend

    What the hell?

    To be fair, Harry only called it a Chlorofiend because he refused to admit he was being chased by an angry plant monster. A wizard has to have some dignity.

    Angry plant monster sounds far better than chlorofiend.

    I've actually been listening to these on audiobook recently borrowed from the library. James Masters I think his name is does a very good job on the whole, and as Dresden especially.

    Well, you do realize that Harry is very much a geek who watches lots of movies and plays DnD with werewolves.

    So coming up with some techno-pseudo-babble name for a nutso monster isn't out of character.

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    QuirkQuirk Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I was pretty sceptical about this series, but I went ahead and bought the first one a while ago and enses up reading the first three in under a week.

    They really are very good

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    PedantophilePedantophile Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    So coming up with some techno-pseudo-babble name for a nutso monster isn't out of character.
    I still think "Shagnasty" was one of the best.

    Has anyone mentioned Mike Carey yet? Or Justin Gustainis?

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    risumonrisumon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just finished changes
    :( Ugh... Waiting for the next book.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    If you want something similar to Desden try "Monster" its pretty good if not short.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Okay so I just finished book 3 last night.

    The big showdown at Bianca's mansion.... holy shit. D:

    I am completely awestruck.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    ugh, Goatmon

    just...just wait till Dead Beat

    really, the crazy fights aren't even worth commenting on till Dead Beat

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm sure they get much better, dude

    But right now, that's really hard to fathom

    I mean
    I thought him going into a mad rage and setting half the building on fucking FIRE wasn't crazy enough, he goes and pulls off a mass necromancy and call an entire mob of vengeful burning ghosts.

    The bit with Rachel was what really got me. The description alone was enough that I was visualizing it all in my head, vibrantly, in slow-motion, with soundtrack.

    I.... am becoming very fond of Butcher's writing.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    yeah you really have no idea what you're in for at all

    that fight is so tame I literally forgot it

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is this like an Andrew Hussie thing, where he just keeps raising the scales farther and farther to the point of batshit crazy good?

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    worse

    it's actually becoming a problem with the series, in my view

    there's only so awesome Harry can get before he stops being threatened by anything

    I won't go into specifics but in Changes they introduce a fairly prominent figure in mythology simply to keep Harry in check

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ahh, that figures.

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    cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    There is definetly some "power creep" in the stories but the real focus is usually the character interactions and Harry's luck at surviving. The characters in the books are its real strength IMO. There are few if any characters that I think are just worthless.

    Was talking to a buddy of mine who is now reading through the series and we are amazed that this series has only warranted a mediocre SciFi original series. I really hope that somebody gives it another shot at some point. Cause, to me, if Dead Beat doesn't say major motion picture.. I don't know what does.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    YaYa wrote: »
    worse

    it's actually becoming a problem with the series, in my view

    there's only so awesome Harry can get before he stops being threatened by anything

    I won't go into specifics but in Changes they introduce a fairly prominent figure in mythology simply to keep Harry in check

    if you are talking about who i THINK you are talking about, it drove my fiancee into a rage
    the mayan god who the red king was masquerading as in chichen itza? must be noted that my fiancee is an anthropologist/archaeologist who semi-specializes in early south american culture.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    at least the power creep here makes SENSE; i.e. harry keeps fighting stronger and stronger guys and needs to develop his powers even more
    also he specifically says he has been training himself more ever since he took molly under his wing

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    SilvenSilven Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Silven wrote: »
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.
    Ebenezar dropped a fucking meteor on a vampire court

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    SilvenSilven Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.
    Ebenezar dropped a fucking meteor on a vampire court
    Right, but he's the blackstaff, and that was a rare display of power.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    worse

    it's actually becoming a problem with the series, in my view

    there's only so awesome Harry can get before he stops being threatened by anything

    I won't go into specifics but in Changes they introduce a fairly prominent figure in mythology simply to keep Harry in check

    if you are talking about who i THINK you are talking about, it drove my fiancee into a rage
    the mayan god who the red king was masquerading as in chichen itza? must be noted that my fiancee is an anthropologist/archaeologist who semi-specializes in early south american culture.

    no actually
    I meant fucking Odin

    I know he's not a direct threat, but just the fact that somebody of that level of power and mythological status has to be brought in just to keep Harry intimidated is a little ridiculous

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Silven wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.
    Ebenezar dropped a fucking meteor on a vampire court
    Right, but he's the blackstaff, and that was a rare display of power.

    rare meaning "infrequent due to severity not ability"

    T: yaya- oh yeah, i didn't see that as a "check" considering
    they are on the same side, technically. grey council what?

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.
    Ebenezar dropped a fucking meteor on a vampire court
    Right, but he's the blackstaff, and that was a rare display of power.

    rare meaning "infrequent due to severity not ability"

    T: yaya- oh yeah, i didn't see that as a "check" considering
    they are on the same side, technically. grey council what?

    I know, but even the introduction of that character seemed a little much, considering what sort of powers Harry was fucking terrified of, say, 4 books ago

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    YaYa wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Silven wrote: »
    I kind of like it. The power of the White Council, and of wizards in general, is dealt with as though it's obvious. But until recently you didn't really get to know what they were really capable of.

    That Harry has to be seriously kept in check really drives home what more powerful people are potentially capable of.
    Ebenezar dropped a fucking meteor on a vampire court
    Right, but he's the blackstaff, and that was a rare display of power.

    rare meaning "infrequent due to severity not ability"

    T: yaya- oh yeah, i didn't see that as a "check" considering
    they are on the same side, technically. grey council what?

    I know, but even the introduction of that character seemed a little much, considering what sort of powers Harry was fucking terrified of, say, 4 books ago
    Yeah, but I like his reasoning for aligning with the winter court. Just consider the crazy shit he has to call on if he really needed shit loads of power at his fingertips.

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    M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    maybe that should be a spoiler ^
    Mentioning his alignment with the winter court that is

    And yea, I wasn't expecting that kind of character to come in and he also said there are people out there like him and more powerful.

    Also
    Aren't the knights of the cross a check for harry if he loses control as well?

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    SilvenSilven Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Pretty much all of Harry's allies are there to keep him in check.

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    SilvenSilven Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I mean, people don't go to him to find lost cats. They go to him when an ass needs to be kicked or something needs to be obliterated.

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    Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I rather enjoyed the events of Turncoat, just a bit more than I did for Changes.
    Turncoat was the one where he claimed the power of that primal island, right? I rather enjoyed where that sequence of events went.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I rather enjoyed the events of Turncoat, just a bit more than I did for Changes.
    Turncoat was the one where he claimed the power of that primal island, right? I rather enjoyed where that sequence of events went.

    yeah, kinda sad that they seem to (for now) have dropped that....WAIT A MINUTE

    is that island
    located in the body of water he was in when he got shot???

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    risumonrisumon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    I rather enjoyed the events of Turncoat, just a bit more than I did for Changes.
    Turncoat was the one where he claimed the power of that primal island, right? I rather enjoyed where that sequence of events went.

    yeah, kinda sad that they seem to (for now) have dropped that....WAIT A MINUTE

    is that island
    located in the body of water he was in when he got shot???
    Lake Michigan, yah. That is where the boat is docked and all.

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    ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    risumon wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    I rather enjoyed the events of Turncoat, just a bit more than I did for Changes.
    Turncoat was the one where he claimed the power of that primal island, right? I rather enjoyed where that sequence of events went.

    yeah, kinda sad that they seem to (for now) have dropped that....WAIT A MINUTE

    is that island
    located in the body of water he was in when he got shot???
    Lake Michigan, yah. That is where the boat is docked and all.
    the island is how harry will come back. its just like lost

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    yeah I was a little "eh" when they introduced
    Odin
    I really didn't think they needed to throw in a guy who exists already in this book of lovely original characters.

    also
    I think Harry is going to power down a bit, the only reason he was so powerful in Changes was because he became the Winter Knight, and he died so thats gone and when he gets his body back, or gets a new body or whatever I think hes going to be severely weakened compared to what we've seen so far.

    Unless Butcher decides that being a ghost makes you more powerful.

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    Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    risumon wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    I rather enjoyed the events of Turncoat, just a bit more than I did for Changes.
    Turncoat was the one where he claimed the power of that primal island, right? I rather enjoyed where that sequence of events went.

    yeah, kinda sad that they seem to (for now) have dropped that....WAIT A MINUTE

    is that island
    located in the body of water he was in when he got shot???
    Lake Michigan, yah. That is where the boat is docked and all.
    the island is how harry will come back. its just like lost

    If I recall correctly (I may not be),
    isn't apparent death (to the mortal world) a necessity to become a Winter knight. or am I pulling this from my ass?
    I could swear I recall something about that from one of the earlier novels.

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