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Shade, the Changing Man is a fictional comic book character created by Steve Ditko for DC Comics in 1977.[1] The character was later adapted by Peter Milligan and became one of the first Vertigo titles.

In July 1990, just six months after Shade's final appearance in Suicide Squad, the title and character were revived and revamped by Peter Milligan and Chris Bachalo. Coming at a time when DC were in the midst of the so-called "British Invasion" of creators, Shade was one of the last to debut in the first wave after Neil Gaiman's Sandman, and Grant Morrison's Animal Man. ...

This new series used some of the same names and concepts from the original, but these were few and far between; Rac Shade was now a lovelorn poet sent to Earth to stop a growing tide of madness from consuming the planet, while his M-Vest was now a Madness-Vest that he could use to warp reality. ...

Working from character designs by Brendan McCarthy, artist Chris Bachalo created a distinctive look for the comic which set it aside from the previous Ditko run and the characters' DC Universe appearances. Milligan made the stories uniquely surreal, and had a habit of killing Shade off only to bring him back in a changed form. In fact, Shade had five different forms throughout the series' run: a red-headed mopey poet; a woman; a black-haired madman; a red-haired, emotionless mod; and a bedraggled, unshaven obsessive.

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The Invisibles is a comic book series that was published by the Vertigo imprint of DC Comics from 1994 to 2000. It was created and scripted by Scottish writer Grant Morrison, and drawn by various artists throughout its publication.[1]

The plot follows (more or less) a single cell of The Invisible College, a secret organization battling against physical and psychic oppression using time travel, magic, meditation, and physical violence.[2]

For most of the series, the team includes leader King Mob; Lord Fanny, a Brazilian shaman; Boy, a former member of the NYPD; Ragged Robin, a telepath with a mysterious past; and Jack Frost, a young hooligan from Liverpool who may be the next Buddha. Their enemies are the Archons of Outer Church, interdimensional alien gods who have already enslaved most of the human race without their knowledge.

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Sandman Mystery Theatre is a comic book series published by Vertigo, the mature-readers imprint of DC Comics. It ran for 70 issues between 1993 and 1999 and retells the adventures of the Sandman, a vigilante whose main weapon is a gun that fires sleeping gas, originally created by DC in the Golden Age of Comic Books. In a similar vein to Batman, the Sandman possesses no superhuman powers and relies on his detective skills and inventions.

In this film noir-like series by writers Matt Wagner and Steven T. Seagle, Wesley Dodds (the Sandman) and his girlfriend Dian Belmont (daughter of the District Attorney) encountered several, often grotesque, foes in multi-issue storylines. The team of Dodds and Belmont were a nod to Nick and Nora Charles of The Thin Man novel and movies.

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Kid Eternity is a fictional character, a comic book superhero that premiered in Hit Comics #25 written by Otto Binder, drawn by Sheldon Moldoff, and published by Quality Comics in December 1942. All of Quality's intellectual properties were sold to DC Comics in 1956 (though most of the said properties lapsed into public domain by that point), including the character.[citation needed] The character has continued to appear (albeit infrequently) in DC comic books since his revival in the 1970s.

...In the 1990s, a different and darker version of the character was introduced. This was done with a three-issue mini-series written by Grant Morrison with art by Duncan Fegredo in 1991. This version returned the Kid to his nameless roots and severed ties with the Marvel Family. While it kept most of the original continuity intact, it also made some significant changes to the character's back story.

When DC began their mature-readers Vertigo imprint, they went back to Kid Eternity, with a new series written by Ann Nocenti with art by Sean Phillips. This series quickly moved away from the continuity established by Morrison, and instead focused on the everyman qualities of the character. It lasted 16 issues (May 1993 - September 1994).[1]

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The boat captain the Kid referred to as his grandfather is actually a sexual predator who had picked up the young orphaned boy for his own purposes.[1] The fishing ship they are on is destroyed by a U-boat and the Kid is killed. The Kid arrives at an artificial heaven created by the supernatural Lords of Chaos, who make the Kid their unwitting servant by convincing him he had been killed too early and that they would return him to life for the error.

The Kid is given the power to summon people by saying "Eternity", but the people he summons are actually demons who assume the form of the figures he desires. He can choose any person or fictional character, without regard to "good" or "evil" to bring back. The Lords of Chaos give the Kid a guide, a minor Lord of Chaos called "Mr. Keeper". Mr. Keeper, who assumes the form of a pudgy, overweight human, acts as a guide for the kid in setting up and turning on a series of "Chaos Engines", which is part of a plot by the Lords of Chaos to earn their way back into heaven by forcing the evolution of mankind, a deed for which they feel God will forgive their past transgressions.[1]

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The Doom Patrol is a superhero team appearing in publications from DC Comics. The original Doom Patrol first appeared in My Greatest Adventure #80 (June 1963).[2] Writers Arnold Drake (who was the feature's regular scripter) and Bob Haney, artist Bruno Premiani, and editor Murray Boltinoff are generally credited as the team's creators; however, Drake insisted that Haney did no more than answer Drake's call for help to meet the short deadline he had been given for the first story.[3] The Doom Patrol has since appeared in multiple incarnations.

The first Doom Patrol consisted of super-powered misfits, whose "gifts" caused them alienation and trauma. The series was canceled in 1968, and Drake killed the team off in the final issue, Doom Patrol #121 (September–October 1968).

After the first 18 issues (and various crossovers and annuals), Kupperberg was replaced by Grant Morrison, starting with issue #19. ...

Morrison used DC's Invasion crossover to restart the book. He took the Doom Patrol, and superhero comic books in general, to places they had rarely been, incorporating bizarre secret societies, elements of Dada, surrealism, and the cut-up technique pioneered by William S. Burroughs and Brion Gysin. He also borrowed the ideas of Jorge Luis Borges and Heinrich Hoffmann. The original creator, Arnold Drake, said Morrison's was the only subsequent run to reflect the intent of the original series.[10]

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The Sandman is a comic book series written by Neil Gaiman and published by DC Comics. Artists include Sam Kieth, Mike Dringenberg, Jill Thompson, Shawn McManus, Marc Hempel and Michael Zulli, lettering by Todd Klein, and covers by Dave McKean. Beginning with issue #47, it was placed under the imprint Vertigo. It chronicles the adventures of Dream (of the Endless), who rules over the world of dreams. It ran for 75 issues from January 1989 until March 1996. Gaiman's contract stipulated that the series would end when he left it.

The Sandman was one of Vertigo's flagship titles, and is available as a series of ten trade paperbacks. It has also been reprinted in a recolored five-volume Absolute hardcover edition with slipcase. Critically acclaimed, The Sandman is one of the few graphic novels ever to be on the New York Times Best Seller list, along with Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. It was one of five graphic novels to make Entertainment Weekly's "100 best reads from 1983 to 2008", ranking at 46.[1] Norman Mailer described the series as "a comic strip for intellectuals."

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Sam Kieth is a baws

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    What, no Superman?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    Superman is soooooo last thread.

    Bless your heart.
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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Superman isn't Vertigo

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Switzerland also has healthcare which offers mental health coverage combined with a lower level of income inequality.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Actually, Superman shows up (as Clark Kent) for Dream's funeral at the end of Sandman.

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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    See, Jacob knows these things. He's like the random topics pariah.

    Bless your heart.
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Actually, Superman shows up (as Clark Kent) for Dream's funeral at the end of Sandman.

    And all was right in the world.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    I am feeling... not on the precipice of a freakout. But that I am looking toward that general direction.

    Need out of my job so badly. No longer learning anything, and a full quarter of my take-home pay goes to cover student and car loans. The 30-minute+ commute was justifiable when the economy was in the shitter and my resume was lackluster, but not any more.

    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    In an alternate dimension this is an Image Comics thread and bowen is posting Savage Dragon slash fiction

    Ludious on
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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    That doesn't make him a Vertigo character.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    I'll tell ya this about Neil Gaiman

    Guy can write Doctor Who

    Oh brilliant
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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Personnel Manager, what sense is it to have us email you because the department director is out of the office until Tuesday if you're going to take until Tuesday to get back to me?

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    I am feeling... not on the precipice of a freakout. But that I am looking toward that general direction.

    Need out of my job so badly. No longer learning anything, and a full quarter of my take-home pay goes to cover student and car loans. The 30-minute+ commute was justifiable when the economy was in the shitter and my resume was lackluster, but not any more.

    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

    I feel the same, except my private loans went to collection before I could work a job again.

    But debt hanging over my head is like... the one thing that is stopping me from doing anything. I'm afraid to even go back to school.

    Psn:wazukki
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Is Siri a name that gets used in america

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Personnel Manager, what sense is it to have us email you because the department director is out of the office until Tuesday if you're going to take until Tuesday to get back to me?

    paper trail, baby!

    Psn:wazukki
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Kinda sad news about Karen Berger leaving Vertigo after a billion years there.

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Is Siri a name that gets used in america

    Just for the iPhone really.

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Well my headache is completely gone and my stomach ache is gone. Now I am really goddamn hungry.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    http://harpers.org/archive/2010/08/happiness-is-a-worn-gun/?single=1

    interesting, never heard this stuff about condition white/yellow

    This is interesting article so far

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

    yesssssssssssssssssssssssss suck it

    suck it long and suck it hard

    with me

    :(

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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Vertigo had some wonderfully weird shit going on.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    I am feeling... not on the precipice of a freakout. But that I am looking toward that general direction.

    Need out of my job so badly. No longer learning anything, and a full quarter of my take-home pay goes to cover student and car loans. The 30-minute+ commute was justifiable when the economy was in the shitter and my resume was lackluster, but not any more.

    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

    also I have sometimes felt this way about marriage

    I wonder if everyone feels this way sometimes or if I (and you?) are more wanderlust/freespirit/I don't know what than most

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    NSFW A BABY WITH NO CLOTHES BUT NONE OF HIS PARTS ARE VISIBLE JUST A BIG SMILE AND FAT BABBY TUMMY

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/98520fcb8044761ea19dbe74591b48af/tumblr_mf5nx4yxpj1ryltgxo1_500.jpg

    skippydumptruck on
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    SHADE THE CHANGING MAN

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    KEBKEB Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    I am feeling... not on the precipice of a freakout. But that I am looking toward that general direction.

    Need out of my job so badly. No longer learning anything, and a full quarter of my take-home pay goes to cover student and car loans. The 30-minute+ commute was justifiable when the economy was in the shitter and my resume was lackluster, but not any more.

    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

    also I have sometimes felt this way about marriage

    I wonder if everyone feels this way sometimes or if I (and you?) are more wanderlust/freespirit/I don't know what than most

    Is too late

    You made babby
    spool32 wrote: »
    http://harpers.org/archive/2010/08/happiness-is-a-worn-gun/?single=1

    interesting, never heard this stuff about condition white/yellow

    This is interesting article so far

    I'm making my through it too - in between calls, etc - mostly as an admission of my own ignorance re: American gun culture.

    I'm learning!

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    That babby is a laughy babby

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Child pornography [chat]

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    Solomaxwell6Solomaxwell6 Registered User regular
    This is on my work computer, I'm going to get fired.

    Thanks, skippy.

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Nothing puckers your butthole quite like a phone call from the head of compliance.

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    descdesc Goretexing to death Registered User regular
    I can tell from the pudgy tummy and from seeing quite a few laughs in my time

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    skippy's babby is probably the happiest babby i've ever seen

    PROBABLY BECAUSE HE HAS SECRET SANTAS THAT GIVE HIM DOPE THREADS

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    I think someone forgot that we live in America, and not some loose european land where that shit goes under the radar.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Is Siri a name that gets used in america

    Just for the iPhone really.
    Why did they choose the name?

    I met a girl i know called Siri just now is why i thought of it. It's a lovely name, not as good with english pronounciation.

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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    This is on my work computer, I'm going to get fired.

    Thanks, skippy.

    You were already getting fired for purchasing all that illegal Jewish contraband.

    Bless your heart.
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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Wouldn't the burning wick of a bob-omb cause the santa hat to catch fire?

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    I am feeling... not on the precipice of a freakout. But that I am looking toward that general direction.

    Need out of my job so badly. No longer learning anything, and a full quarter of my take-home pay goes to cover student and car loans. The 30-minute+ commute was justifiable when the economy was in the shitter and my resume was lackluster, but not any more.

    I guess I'm just feeling the bonds imposed by debt and that I couldn't just run off to go follow a dream even if I had one. #CaseoftheMondays

    also I have sometimes felt this way about marriage

    I wonder if everyone feels this way sometimes or if I (and you?) are more wanderlust/freespirit/I don't know what than most

    I know what you mean about debt and relationships ( our kid was born a week after I turned 21) closing off most possible futures.

    Though in my case it lead to depression on the bad days and grim determination on the goodthe ones rather than a freakout.

    But in the 11+ years since the debt was all paid and the relationship / kid stuff worked out well and I got me some prozac and exercise.

    Learning to jettison the lie which gets forced fed to americans that you can do anything and that choices - even good ones -so don't preclude more possible futures than they create is the important bit.

    Attacked by tweeeeeeees!
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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    I am so tired and sad and stressed.

    I am basically the anti-sawyer

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