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DEXTER - Season 7 finale'd! Spoiler for those who haven't caught up. 1 season left!

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    BedigunzBedigunz Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    I'm mostly enjoying this season so far, which is a pretty fucking foreign feeling. Apart from
    Dexter getting away with murder in an airport,

    my biggest complaint so far is
    what a huge waste of a character Louis was. He went from really intriguing to really stupid the very second they decided to reveal his motivation. Now he's dead. He might as well not have ever been in the show at all.

    Part of me thinks that
    Louis was supposed to have a bigger role but the writers are starting to get rid of plot lines that don't fall inline with their plans for the last two seasons.

    Deb's awkward infatuation with Dexter, Louis, Quinn/Batista fighting, Detective Mike Anderson, etc.

    I thin the writers want to wrap up the last 2 seasons nicely without having to waste time with these storylines.

    That being said, I think Louis' blood will come into play later.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Yeah it's a shame that.
    mike died, he was a cool guy.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    I'm mostly enjoying this season so far, which is a pretty fucking foreign feeling. Apart from
    Dexter getting away with murder in an airport,

    my biggest complaint so far is
    what a huge waste of a character Louis was. He went from really intriguing to really stupid the very second they decided to reveal his motivation. Now he's dead. He might as well not have ever been in the show at all.

    Part of me thinks that
    Louis was supposed to have a bigger role but the writers are starting to get rid of plot lines that don't fall inline with their plans for the last two seasons.

    Deb's awkward infatuation with Dexter, Louis, Quinn/Batista fighting, Detective Mike Anderson, etc.

    I thin the writers want to wrap up the last 2 seasons nicely without having to waste time with these storylines.

    That being said, I think Louis' blood will come into play later.

    Whoa.
    Only 2 seasons left??

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    BedigunzBedigunz Registered User regular
    neville wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    I'm mostly enjoying this season so far, which is a pretty fucking foreign feeling. Apart from
    Dexter getting away with murder in an airport,

    my biggest complaint so far is
    what a huge waste of a character Louis was. He went from really intriguing to really stupid the very second they decided to reveal his motivation. Now he's dead. He might as well not have ever been in the show at all.

    Part of me thinks that
    Louis was supposed to have a bigger role but the writers are starting to get rid of plot lines that don't fall inline with their plans for the last two seasons.

    Deb's awkward infatuation with Dexter, Louis, Quinn/Batista fighting, Detective Mike Anderson, etc.

    I thin the writers want to wrap up the last 2 seasons nicely without having to waste time with these storylines.

    That being said, I think Louis' blood will come into play later.

    Whoa.
    Only 2 seasons left??

    Yeah
    The writers have gone on record saying that this is the second to last season and they have everything more or less planned out for the rest of the show, and how they want it to end.

    Personally I'm happy with that because now they have a clear vision of where they want to go and how to end there.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    I'm mostly enjoying this season so far, which is a pretty fucking foreign feeling. Apart from
    Dexter getting away with murder in an airport,

    my biggest complaint so far is
    what a huge waste of a character Louis was. He went from really intriguing to really stupid the very second they decided to reveal his motivation. Now he's dead. He might as well not have ever been in the show at all.

    Part of me thinks that
    Louis was supposed to have a bigger role but the writers are starting to get rid of plot lines that don't fall inline with their plans for the last two seasons.

    Deb's awkward infatuation with Dexter, Louis, Quinn/Batista fighting, Detective Mike Anderson, etc.

    I thin the writers want to wrap up the last 2 seasons nicely without having to waste time with these storylines.

    That being said, I think Louis' blood will come into play later.

    I was actually thinking the same thing, but that doesn't make the way they handled it any less disappointing to watch. Boy how I wish it did.

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    Vargas PrimeVargas Prime King of Nothing Just a ShowRegistered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    Bedigunz wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    I'm mostly enjoying this season so far, which is a pretty fucking foreign feeling. Apart from
    Dexter getting away with murder in an airport,

    my biggest complaint so far is
    what a huge waste of a character Louis was. He went from really intriguing to really stupid the very second they decided to reveal his motivation. Now he's dead. He might as well not have ever been in the show at all.

    Part of me thinks that
    Louis was supposed to have a bigger role but the writers are starting to get rid of plot lines that don't fall inline with their plans for the last two seasons.

    Deb's awkward infatuation with Dexter, Louis, Quinn/Batista fighting, Detective Mike Anderson, etc.

    I thin the writers want to wrap up the last 2 seasons nicely without having to waste time with these storylines.

    That being said, I think Louis' blood will come into play later.

    I was actually thinking the same thing, but that doesn't make the way they handled it any less disappointing to watch. Boy how I wish it did.

    I've only had a chance to watch the first episode of the new season so far but... man... the way
    Mike went out was SO dumb. And then they went and made it even worse by having Dexter catch the guy in an airport. I was really hoping they would try to reign in the wild coincidences and contrivances this season, but noooooooope

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Popping into this dead thread (is anyone even still watching this show?) to say that "but can you ever really trust a poisoner?" is the best line of internal dialogue this show has ever had.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    Popping into this dead thread (is anyone even still watching this show?) to say that "but can you ever really trust a poisoner?" is the best line of internal dialogue this show has ever had.

    Yeah I'm watching it:
    1. That line made me wince.

    2. I dunno, the whole thing where she eventually does something he can't trust is so obvious. The whole time I've been going "Oh please don't do it..."

    I'm not sure what the next/final season will entail. I'm guessing dexter trying to defend himself as they try to put him in prison for all the crimes?
    It looks like that is previewed in the next and final episode of the season, but if Dexter is in jail next season, it won't leave much opportunity for show.

    "Next week... Dexter plans to kill his cellmate in the shower"?

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Can you ever really trust anyone in the Dexterverse?

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    YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    I legitimately do not like this show any more

    And I still watch it every week without fail

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    THESPOOKY wrote: »
    Can you ever really trust anyone in the Dexterverse?

    I dunno, Cody and Harrison are ok.
    Maybe.

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    theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    I legitimately do not like this show any more

    And I still watch it every week without fail

    I really like to stick by shows. It's such a shame to have all that lore and history around a show go to waste because its traded hands with so many directors, writers and producers, or because at a certain level of fame they've decided to play it safe and write by committee, or because the creator didn't have any more than a season's worth of good ideas. I stuck it with Heroes for far too many seasons (can you believe I made it into the fourth?), I made it all the way through BSG and Lost and at the end of both I can say I was happy with how they ended. I've yet to get through the last season of Chuck but I want to get through that as well.

    And so it is with Dexter. Lost started to pick up when the head writers committed to a definite number of episodes until Lost was completely done. Not surprisingly, the pace started to pick up, the pointless back stories either suddenly became relevant or the theme of the back story itself was played with, and characters suddenly became interesting again. Similarly, the writers of Dexter had committed to two more seasons before everything would wrap up. I was hoping they'd had an exciting end-game planned from the start, which they could put into action. Their very best writing, wittiest dialogue, deepest of introspection into the mind of a serial killer and those around him. It almost seemed like it too, you could have really used the first 70% of this season as season 3. However, the people writing Dexter these days are not the people who were writing it seven years ago. Off the top of my head, they're profoundly less intelligent, and they're a lot less creative as well.

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    It pisses me off that I don't really have any high expectations over what's going to happen next week. Dexter's character has dumbed down with the writers to the point that four minutes after being told that "You're no longer under investigation" by a drunk fuck in a boat, and that for the past season he's been suspected by Laguerta of being exactly what he is he sees absolutely nothing suspicious about the fact that his mothers murderer is being put on parole just as he's been told to let his guard down.

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    theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Additionally I really hate Yvonne Strahovski's ultra-clipped American accent. It really sounds forced compared to the natural ebb of her Aussie accent outside the set.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    theSquid wrote: »
    Additionally I really hate Yvonne Strahovski's ultra-clipped American accent. It really sounds forced compared to the natural ebb of her Aussie accent outside the set.

    That's what that is. Fuck.

    I always thought her voice was a bit off, in both this and Chuck. I just shrugged and chalked it up to a weird lisp or something, but I didn't know she was Australian. Now I have to go find a clip of her speaking naturally.

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    YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    Yes, a clip of her...speaking

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Well, at first.

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    theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    theSquid wrote: »
    Additionally I really hate Yvonne Strahovski's ultra-clipped American accent. It really sounds forced compared to the natural ebb of her Aussie accent outside the set.

    That's what that is. Fuck.

    I always thought her voice was a bit off, in both this and Chuck. I just shrugged and chalked it up to a weird lisp or something, but I didn't know she was Australian. Now I have to go find a clip of her speaking naturally.

    In Chuck they were pretty comfortable with her character adopting an Australian accent or speaking Polish for spy reasons on several occasions.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I'm stealing this from the latest TV Club review:
    On a plot level, this finale frustrated me for all the reasons Dexter has always been frustrating. Everyone acts incredibly stupidly in exactly the ways that allow the show to continue apace, while the writers still request the latitude to suggest the characters aren’t incredibly stupid when that’s more convenient.

    But whatever, what's done is done, and there's only one season left. I have to see this fucking show out to the end.

    I forgot how much I missed Doakes.

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    NogginNoggin Registered User regular
    I thought the finale was pretty good, at least the first like 2/3 of it. The end
    seemed forced and was disappointing re: Hannah getting away.

    The season started off pretty well but it sucks that they washed away the Koshka conflict so easily just to make room for more "you're the only one that understands me". He should've killed her before she killed the middle of this seaon.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Noggin wrote: »
    I thought the finale was pretty good, at least the first like 2/3 of it. The end
    seemed forced and was disappointing re: Hannah getting away.

    The season started off pretty well but it sucks that they washed away the Koshka conflict so easily just to make room for more "you're the only one that understands me". He should've killed her before she killed the middle of this seaon.
    Yeah, I miss the villains you actually were impressed by.
    Which I guess was mostly Trinity & the Ice Truck Killer / Brian.

    The seasons which have mediocre/half villains that get replaced or die early are just obnoxious.
    Who was the actual villain in this season? The Koshka brotherhood became nothing.
    Also there was ZERO followup after Quinn killed the guy in the club, which seems unlikely.

    I agree with @Larlar although it pains me to say so, because I really DID enjoy the show earlier on.

    Now it just seems he's broken not just his code for who to kill but basic freaking procedures.
    Grabbing people in broad daylight (It happened what, 4 times? 5? ) this season is just so outside of what he has done his entire life, it seems absurd.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    neville wrote: »
    Grabbing people in broad daylight (It happened what, 4 times? 5? ) this season is just so outside of what he has done his entire life, it seems absurd.
    Immediately after he gets arrested for being The Bay Harbor Butcher, no less. I laughed out loud when that happened.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    Grabbing people in broad daylight (It happened what, 4 times? 5? ) this season is just so outside of what he has done his entire life, it seems absurd.
    Immediately after he gets arrested for being The Bay Harbor Butcher, no less. I laughed out loud when that happened.

    I actually said "Are you fucking serious?" out loud when it happened.
    :|

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    neville wrote: »
    Noggin wrote: »
    I thought the finale was pretty good, at least the first like 2/3 of it. The end
    seemed forced and was disappointing re: Hannah getting away.

    The season started off pretty well but it sucks that they washed away the Koshka conflict so easily just to make room for more "you're the only one that understands me". He should've killed her before she killed the middle of this seaon.
    Yeah, I miss the villains you actually were impressed by.
    Which I guess was mostly Trinity & the Ice Truck Killer / Brian.

    The seasons which have mediocre/half villains that get replaced or die early are just obnoxious.
    Who was the actual villain in this season? The Koshka brotherhood became nothing.
    Also there was ZERO followup after Quinn killed the guy in the club, which seems unlikely.

    I agree with @Larlar although it pains me to say so, because I really DID enjoy the show earlier on.

    Now it just seems he's broken not just his code for who to kill but basic freaking procedures.
    Grabbing people in broad daylight (It happened what, 4 times? 5? ) this season is just so outside of what he has done his entire life, it seems absurd.
    The airport was the most ridiculous one

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    You'll get no argument on that from me. It'll be hard to top, but maybe next season Dexter will successfully murder someone underneath a roulette table at a casino.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    No no

    Inside the big, circular clothing racks in a store

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    You'll get no argument on that from me. It'll be hard to top, but maybe next season Dexter will successfully murder someone underneath a roulette table at a casino.

    "I'm sorry, we needed the ball on Red for you to live. *STAB*"

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    At this point we're probably lucky that he didn't try to...
    ...make LaGuerta's killroom be the interrogation room of the Miami Metro PD Station.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    neville wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    You'll get no argument on that from me. It'll be hard to top, but maybe next season Dexter will successfully murder someone underneath a roulette table at a casino.

    "I'm sorry, we needed the ball on Red for you to live. *STAB*"

    "I have even less control over my dark passenger's new friend, the dark gambler."

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    At this point we're probably lucky that he didn't try to...
    ...make LaGuerta's killroom be the interrogation room of the Miami Metro PD Station.

    That might've been way more entertaining than what actually happened

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Larlar wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    You'll get no argument on that from me. It'll be hard to top, but maybe next season Dexter will successfully murder someone underneath a roulette table at a casino.

    "I'm sorry, we needed the ball on Red for you to live. *STAB*"

    "I have even less control over my dark passenger's new friend, the dark gambler."

    "An innocent always stays on 18."

    "It doesn't fit the code... to stab someone who won't call an all in with trips on the flop because of a possible flush."

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    neville wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    neville wrote: »
    Larlar wrote: »
    You'll get no argument on that from me. It'll be hard to top, but maybe next season Dexter will successfully murder someone underneath a roulette table at a casino.

    "I'm sorry, we needed the ball on Red for you to live. *STAB*"

    "I have even less control over my dark passenger's new friend, the dark gambler."

    "An innocent always stays on 18."

    "It doesn't fit the code... to stab someone who won't call an all in with trips on the flop because of a possible flush."

    Ghost Harry: "Oh, for fuck's sake, Dexter. I'm outta here."

    The actor is then replaced by Bill Cosby for the remainer of the season and does nothing but promote Jello pudding.

    In the end, Dexter is caught because he leaves a trail of pudding to his last crime.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    We could totally write this show.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I haven't seen a season go this spectacularly off the rails since season 2 of heroes. I mean it was going great and then BOOM shitty so fast.

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    LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA mod
    There was so much potential for Isaak to be the greatest villain this show's ever seen, and all of it completely wasted. For what little he was able to contribute, he was fantastic.

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    I get the impression that they basically went "Hey, we're ending the show in two years, let's throw all our ideas in while we have time!"
    Sirko easily could have handled a season himself, but instead they kill him off 70% or so into the season and all related plots basically dead-end.
    I also could totally see the "Phantom" (burning guy) having been originally pitched as a season-long villain whose identity was a mystery (like how the Ice Truck Killer started).
    I wouldn't be surprised if Creepy Intern had been intended for a bigger role either (probably not as a Big Bad, though).

    I just hope they used this season as the melting pot of ideas because they want to keep the final season concise and on-message.

    I did really enjoy a lot of it up until the end though. I'm not very good at ranking seasons and such, but overall I guess I'd place it somewhere in the middle.

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    THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    More than anything else about this season
    I think killing off Sirko was a huge mistake, even if I am soooo tired of "The only one who understands Dexter" characters.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    The worst thing is that the Sexy Poisoner plotline they cut him in favor of was just... garbage. If they really wanted more time to explore that, maybe cut out the pointless fucking Quinn subplot that went nowhere.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    I haven't seen a season go this spectacularly off the rails since season 2 of heroes. I mean it was going great and then BOOM shitty so fast.

    They had some pretty big things happen here, imo
    The assumed "big evil" turned out to be gay, but he was a character first, it wasn't a stereotype.
    Then he died.

    Dexter dating someone he could actually relate to.

    Dexter making breakthrough with his sister

    Then they squandered all of that.

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    nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    Lars wrote: »
    I get the impression that they basically went "Hey, we're ending the show in two years, let's throw all our ideas in while we have time!"
    Sirko easily could have handled a season himself, but instead they kill him off 70% or so into the season and all related plots basically dead-end.
    I also could totally see the "Phantom" (burning guy) having been originally pitched as a season-long villain whose identity was a mystery (like how the Ice Truck Killer started).
    I wouldn't be surprised if Creepy Intern had been intended for a bigger role either (probably not as a Big Bad, though).

    I just hope they used this season as the melting pot of ideas because they want to keep the final season concise and on-message.

    I did really enjoy a lot of it up until the end though. I'm not very good at ranking seasons and such, but overall I guess I'd place it somewhere in the middle.
    Yeah, I forgot that, but Creepy Intern(tm) was actually something I could see going somewhere.
    Then... "nope, blam" and nobody ever finds out.

    Also, Angel from previous seasons wouldn't have just quit for a restaurant after he sees LaGuerta railroading Dexter.
    Obviously she was doing it because she was correct, but he didn't seem the type to go "Welp, I'm leaving though... these enchiladas won't make themselves".

    :|

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