It would perhaps be the biggest wake up call to the world in a long time.
to the world? but we don't care
South Sudan was created in 2011, and I don't think the world was drastically shaken up.
In what way would an independent Scotland wake the world up?
South Sudan is where exactly?
Scotland is a western European country that just decided to peacefully cede from GB after 300 years of marriage.
I'm pretty sure there are a few other places in Europe that'd like their own independence.
in the sudan. Also south sudan shook the world up more than an independent scotland will. There's some major geopolitical interests at odds in the sudan. Not so much in scotland.
Anyway, an inpedendent scotland means bollocks for other separatist movements in europe.
Where as Scotland is currently a member of a nation with a seat on the UN Security Council.
And South Sudan shook the world up because of oil
and? finish your sentences.
Scotland being a part of a UNSC member matters to the world... how?
south sudan shook the world up because of oil is relevant... how?
Because of the fact that there are only five permanent seats on the Security Council, Britain is one of them. The country might possibly be split in half because of this. Do you not think nations like China or Russia won't notice that? Beyond that, do you not think one of the most prominent nations in the world being split in two won't grab -any- attention of other parts of the world that seek independence?
Also oil is probably the biggest geopolitical reason South Sudan exists. The revenue from oil constitutes 98% of South Sudan's budget. China is a major investor in their oil. But it's also drying up and they're in the middle of a civil war.
Beyond oil I don't think they have much
I know that's the geopolitical interests in sudan I'm talking about.
Anyway, still don't see the big relevance to the security council? Are you saying an independent scotland would mean a big shift in power internationally? Because scotland is a small part of the UK.
And okay, it gets the attention of other parts of the world that seek independence. And then what?
The relevance to the security council is the fact that the UK is on it. Everyone knows where the UK is located, everyone knows their history with the UK. Everyone is watching and waiting to see what happens because there probably isn't a person on this Earth who couldn't point out Britain on a map.
The UK being split is a bigger deal than Sudan being split, but not necessarily for the same reasons. I don't think Sudan has existed as a nation for 300+ years. If a 300 year old union can be broken up via democratic process, what other parts of Western Europe might want their own independence.
What nations might use that sort of shit to their own benefit (Russia)
Russia is full steam ahead-ing on that regardless of what Scotland decides.
God, Putin makes me mad sometimes.
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this dude at work i can't stand is all trying to be cute and get me to apologize to him because i was mean to him wast week awww bloo bloo
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
It would perhaps be the biggest wake up call to the world in a long time.
to the world? but we don't care
South Sudan was created in 2011, and I don't think the world was drastically shaken up.
In what way would an independent Scotland wake the world up?
South Sudan is where exactly?
Scotland is a western European country that just decided to peacefully cede from GB after 300 years of marriage.
I'm pretty sure there are a few other places in Europe that'd like their own independence.
in the sudan. Also south sudan shook the world up more than an independent scotland will. There's some major geopolitical interests at odds in the sudan. Not so much in scotland.
Anyway, an inpedendent scotland means bollocks for other separatist movements in europe.
Where as Scotland is currently a member of a nation with a seat on the UN Security Council.
And South Sudan shook the world up because of oil
and? finish your sentences.
Scotland being a part of a UNSC member matters to the world... how?
south sudan shook the world up because of oil is relevant... how?
Because of the fact that there are only five permanent seats on the Security Council, Britain is one of them. The country might possibly be split in half because of this. Do you not think nations like China or Russia won't notice that? Beyond that, do you not think one of the most prominent nations in the world being split in two won't grab -any- attention of other parts of the world that seek independence?
Also oil is probably the biggest geopolitical reason South Sudan exists. The revenue from oil constitutes 98% of South Sudan's budget. China is a major investor in their oil. But it's also drying up and they're in the middle of a civil war.
Beyond oil I don't think they have much
I know that's the geopolitical interests in sudan I'm talking about.
Anyway, still don't see the big relevance to the security council? Are you saying an independent scotland would mean a big shift in power internationally? Because scotland is a small part of the UK.
And okay, it gets the attention of other parts of the world that seek independence. And then what?
The relevance to the security council is the fact that the UK is on it. Everyone knows where the UK is located, everyone knows their history with the UK. Everyone is watching and waiting to see what happens because there probably isn't a person on this Earth who couldn't point out Britain on a map.
The UK being split is a bigger deal than Sudan being split, but not necessarily for the same reasons. I don't think Sudan has existed as a nation for 300+ years. If a 300 year old union can be broken up via democratic process, what other parts of Western Europe might want their own independence.
What nations might use that sort of shit to their own benefit (Russia)
how is it relevant to UK being on the security council, jesus fuck
yes, everyone knows that UK is in the UNSC
that is not being debated
what would independent scotland change re: the UNSC?
holy jesus
-nothing- I mentioned the UN security council because the nations that have permanent seats there are pretty god damn well known.
I was using it as a way to note just how well known the UK is around the world.
Would Scotland try to join the EU and switch to the Euro?
economically it might make more sense for them to reinstate their own currency and devalue it to boost exports
because ireland already has the "we just basically won't tax any businesses who want to come here" angle and germany has the "we own europe" angle so there aren't many other real EU options
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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The Scottish delegation arrives to all international functions shirtless and faces painted blue.
Would Scotland try to join the EU and switch to the Euro?
economically it might make more sense for them to reinstate their own currency and devalue it to boost exports
because ireland already has the "we just basically won't tax any businesses who want to come here" angle and germany has the "we own europe" angle so there aren't many other real EU options
funny how that worked out innit
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Would Scotland try to join the EU and switch to the Euro?
I think early in the debate Salmond tried to say Scotland would be automatically an EU member.
While some Spanish diplomats poopooed this idea - because Spain has a motive to prevent such a precedent - the truth is it there isn't really a mechanism for figuring this out. The closest thing would be Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia's breakup, but that happened while the successor nations were all outside the EU anyway.
Scotland is currently trying to hold on to the Pound Sterling, but I don't know what they'll end up with.
Would Scotland try to join the EU and switch to the Euro?
I think early in the debate Salmond tried to say Scotland would be automatically an EU member.
While some Spanish diplomats poopooed this idea - because Spain has a motive to prevent such a precedent - the truth is it there isn't really a mechanism for figuring this out. The closest thing would be Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia's breakup, but that happened while the successor nations were all outside the EU anyway.
Scotland is currently trying to hold on to the Pound Sterling, but I don't know what they'll end up with.
THE DAY OF THE FUCKING VOTE AND WE STILL DONT KNOW THIS
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this dude at work i can't stand is all trying to be cute and get me to apologize to him because i was mean to him wast week awww bloo bloo
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
sorry if that was mean
not sorry
i hate my job
four hours of sleep makes chanus angry
My wife is going through crap at work right now and as it turns out has been...I don't know if harrased is a good word but a senior on her team will like...rub her shoulders and has licked his hand then smeared it on her face. I was pretty pissed when I found out about this. She hasn't gone in today and wrote an email to her contact with the contracting company.
this dude at work i can't stand is all trying to be cute and get me to apologize to him because i was mean to him wast week awww bloo bloo
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
sorry if that was mean
not sorry
i hate my job
four hours of sleep makes chanus angry
My wife is going through crap at work right now and as it turns out has been...I don't know if harrased is a good word but a senior on her team will like...rub her shoulders and has licked his hand then smeared it on her face. I was pretty pissed when I found out about this. She hasn't gone in today and wrote an email to her contact with the contracting company.
this dude at work i can't stand is all trying to be cute and get me to apologize to him because i was mean to him wast week awww bloo bloo
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
sorry if that was mean
not sorry
i hate my job
four hours of sleep makes chanus angry
My wife is going through crap at work right now and as it turns out has been...I don't know if harrased is a good word but a senior on her team will like...rub her shoulders and has licked his hand then smeared it on her face. I was pretty pissed when I found out about this. She hasn't gone in today and wrote an email to her contact with the contracting company.
uh
yeah that's fucking harassment.
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Scottish Constitution includes weekly face painting and mandatory kilts.
All arguments must be settled in either highland games fashion or that shit where you constantly punch each other in the arm.
this dude at work i can't stand is all trying to be cute and get me to apologize to him because i was mean to him wast week awww bloo bloo
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
sorry if that was mean
not sorry
i hate my job
four hours of sleep makes chanus angry
My wife is going through crap at work right now and as it turns out has been...I don't know if harrased is a good word but a senior on her team will like...rub her shoulders and has licked his hand then smeared it on her face. I was pretty pissed when I found out about this. She hasn't gone in today and wrote an email to her contact with the contracting company.
uh
yeah that's fucking harassment.
I'm pretty sure for something like that you're allowed to show up and beat the shit out of him.
Bless your heart.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
My default assumption in the absence of precedence or an official law would be that any new nation would have to apply on its own merits. Same for NATO.
I don't think Westminster has been in a hurry to get a definitive answer either way. Uncertainty probably translates to No votes.
Would Scotland try to join the EU and switch to the Euro?
economically it might make more sense for them to reinstate their own currency and devalue it to boost exports
because ireland already has the "we just basically won't tax any businesses who want to come here" angle and germany has the "we own europe" angle so there aren't many other real EU options
Yeah, abdicating your currency to the control of other countries means abdicating control of your monetary policy which is very, very dumb. But if you want to hitch yourself to a gold standard that goes by another name...
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Russia is full steam ahead-ing on that regardless of what Scotland decides.
God, Putin makes me mad sometimes.
fuck you dude
he's the type of fellow who uses 40 sentences to explain something that only needs about 4 words
so he was blathering on about god knows what the other day and I said, "just tell me what you want the outcome to be and I'll figure it out myself because it will take less time than listening to you try to explain it to me"
sorry if that was mean
not sorry
i hate my job
four hours of sleep makes chanus angry
THE PRESUREEEEEEEEE
NOT HELPING
holy jesus
-nothing- I mentioned the UN security council because the nations that have permanent seats there are pretty god damn well known.
I was using it as a way to note just how well known the UK is around the world.
But I guess I'm done with this conversation.
Do you dislike Westminster's power over the rest of the country?
Do you think England and Scotland's desires are irreconcilable?
Do you think Salmond's proposal for transition is feasible and viable?
Do you feel any camaraderie towards the other nations?
$12 in NYC is like $3.00 in the real world
It's either that or reverting to their old currency of sheep and insults.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
do i want to watch the world burn y/n?
economically it might make more sense for them to reinstate their own currency and devalue it to boost exports
because ireland already has the "we just basically won't tax any businesses who want to come here" angle and germany has the "we own europe" angle so there aren't many other real EU options
Also, some cheeses are rarer, take longer to make, and have certain qualities way above and beyond Kraft singles.
Like, there is a cheese I love that's like 30 a pound, but it's got truffle in it and its fucking delicious
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
funny how that worked out innit
how's three sheep and a punch in the face
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I think early in the debate Salmond tried to say Scotland would be automatically an EU member.
While some Spanish diplomats poopooed this idea - because Spain has a motive to prevent such a precedent - the truth is it there isn't really a mechanism for figuring this out. The closest thing would be Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia's breakup, but that happened while the successor nations were all outside the EU anyway.
Scotland is currently trying to hold on to the Pound Sterling, but I don't know what they'll end up with.
THE DAY OF THE FUCKING VOTE AND WE STILL DONT KNOW THIS
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My wife is going through crap at work right now and as it turns out has been...I don't know if harrased is a good word but a senior on her team will like...rub her shoulders and has licked his hand then smeared it on her face. I was pretty pissed when I found out about this. She hasn't gone in today and wrote an email to her contact with the contracting company.
EU should have this figured out.
and it hasn't happened with any EU member. Hm.
We need some EU law lawyers in here.
JFC
enough procrastinating
lets do dis
into the hands of fate with my nation
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uh
yeah that's fucking harassment.
All arguments must be settled in either highland games fashion or that shit where you constantly punch each other in the arm.
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Liked this will be a multi-year, process, right? England won't put up border stations tonight, right?
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
RUUUIINNED!!!
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I'm pretty sure for something like that you're allowed to show up and beat the shit out of him.
hadrian's wall rebuilt sept 19
I don't think Westminster has been in a hurry to get a definitive answer either way. Uncertainty probably translates to No votes.
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what are you the fucking BBC? help a bro out here!
2016, I think.
Yeah, abdicating your currency to the control of other countries means abdicating control of your monetary policy which is very, very dumb. But if you want to hitch yourself to a gold standard that goes by another name...
"The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it." -- Jack Kirby