The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
It's literally twice the price of a good television of similar size and overall build quality that will still play 90% of the available content for it in its expected lifespan. I would consider that crossing the line from "affordable" to "extravagant"
To clarify, I don't think it's a bad deal. I think it's very reasonable for the product being offered. But it is, in no way, even close to "4K being almost the same price as 1080p". People on a budget should not be buying into 4K if that's the average cost.
Okay! That is why no one is telling you to buy it.
If someone is interested in getting set-up for widescale 4k adoption at this stage, 800 dollars is pretty reasonable.
You like your 1080p TV, that's fine, but technology is moving forward and 1080p is going to be outdated sooner rather than later. If that doesn't bug you that's also fine but lots of people like to stay current.
The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
Yeah I can only liken buying a 1080p set next year to buying a big ass SD CRT in ~2007. I mean sure, it'll work and most of the content right then isn't 1080p, but it's going to be pretty soon and if you don't buy a telly that often, you should probably anticipate the curve a bit.
The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
Yeah I can only liken buying a 1080p set next year to buying a big ass SD CRT in ~2007. I mean sure, it'll work and most of the content right then isn't 1080p, but it's going to be pretty soon and if you don't buy a telly that often, you should probably anticipate the curve a bit.
There is no way that 4K is becoming the de facto standard in the next 5 years.
Okay! That is why no one is telling you to buy it.
If someone is interested in getting set-up for widescale 4k adoption at this stage, 800 dollars is pretty reasonable.
You like your 1080p TV, that's fine, but technology is moving forward and 1080p is going to be outdated sooner rather than later. If that doesn't bug you that's also fine but lots of people like to stay current.
I am explicitly responding to people in this thread saying that we should buy 4K because the prices are almost the same.
I think you would be surprised re: 4K becoming the new standard by 2021
The prices are dropping fast and while they still aren't equal, they likely will be next year and all of the big media companies are making the shift to focusing on 4k.
It's gonna happen and it's gonna be sooner rather than later
I think you would be surprised re: 4K becoming the new standard by 2021
The prices are dropping fast and while they still aren't equal, they likely will be next year and all of the big media companies are making the shift to focusing on 4k.
It's gonna happen and it's gonna be sooner rather than later
Unless telecommunications infrastructure magically starts improving, 4K streaming will be a luxury for the majority of customers for a long, long time. Physical media might start taking off, but I'm willing to wager it won't be nearly as big as it was in the DVD era, which is what really drove HD adoption.
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The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
Like
If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
Yeah I can only liken buying a 1080p set next year to buying a big ass SD CRT in ~2007. I mean sure, it'll work and most of the content right then isn't 1080p, but it's going to be pretty soon and if you don't buy a telly that often, you should probably anticipate the curve a bit.
There is no way that 4K is becoming the de facto standard in the next 5 years.
Okay! That is why no one is telling you to buy it.
If someone is interested in getting set-up for widescale 4k adoption at this stage, 800 dollars is pretty reasonable.
You like your 1080p TV, that's fine, but technology is moving forward and 1080p is going to be outdated sooner rather than later. If that doesn't bug you that's also fine but lots of people like to stay current.
I am explicitly responding to people in this thread saying that we should buy 4K because the prices are almost the same.
They're getting extremely close in price, and have been for awhile now
Nearly double the price is not "extremely close". At all.
So by your logic, nothing that costs more than the most rock bottom 1080p panel is a good decision? There are still plenty of 1080p panels that are $800 or higher so yes, 4K panels are competitive in price.
Also, the 50" version of the 4K Vizio being recommended is $570 at Amazon.
The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
Not...really?
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
Yeah I can only liken buying a 1080p set next year to buying a big ass SD CRT in ~2007. I mean sure, it'll work and most of the content right then isn't 1080p, but it's going to be pretty soon and if you don't buy a telly that often, you should probably anticipate the curve a bit.
There is no way that 4K is becoming the de facto standard in the next 5 years.
Okay! That is why no one is telling you to buy it.
If someone is interested in getting set-up for widescale 4k adoption at this stage, 800 dollars is pretty reasonable.
You like your 1080p TV, that's fine, but technology is moving forward and 1080p is going to be outdated sooner rather than later. If that doesn't bug you that's also fine but lots of people like to stay current.
I am explicitly responding to people in this thread saying that we should buy 4K because the prices are almost the same.
They're getting extremely close in price, and have been for awhile now
Nearly double the price is not "extremely close". At all.
So by your logic, nothing that costs more than the most rock bottom 1080p panel is a good decision? There are still plenty of 1080p panels that are $800 or higher so yes, 4K panels are competitive in price.
Also, the 50" version of the 4K Vizio being recommended is $570 at Amazon.
Well, yes, actually, I think there are a lot of overly expensive 1080p panels out there too.
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$800 is way cheaper than the ones I was looking at last night
I need to do some research when I get home in regards to the latency
A friend of mine bought one last night (Samsung one for around $800), I'm gonna see how well that one works out for him and if it's good for gaming I'll likely get one for myself within a few weeks
I think you would be surprised re: 4K becoming the new standard by 2021
The prices are dropping fast and while they still aren't equal, they likely will be next year and all of the big media companies are making the shift to focusing on 4k.
It's gonna happen and it's gonna be sooner rather than later
Unless telecommunications infrastructure magically starts improving, 4K streaming will be a luxury for the majority of customers for a long, long time. Physical media might start taking off, but I'm willing to wager it won't be nearly as big as it was in the DVD era, which is what really drove HD adoption.
Yeah, most video nowadays is experienced with VOD and current data caps and bandwidth are barely reasonable for HD streaming
About 5 years ago I bought a nice big 1080 LCD from Walmart for about 3 hundo during some winter sale.
I figure I wait a bit, and see if I can find a newer one that doesnt have their HDMI ports placement designed by an asshole.
Dang (I don't wanna see cords) crowds damn near ruined TVs.
What are the games to anticipate, aside from Spider-man? Which is a 2017 game, I think.
I'm kinda interested in Persona 5, but I've never played a game like that before.
Horizon: Zero Dawn is the exclusive many people are waiting on. You could try Persona 4 on PS3/Vita to see if you'll like Persona 5.
There are great 4k monitors out there starting from £350 - currently I have no need for a television so I'd definitely pick one of those up first (should I commit to whatever succeeds the 1080 - I don't see a huge need to replace my current PS4 honestly).
2018 will probably the year where buying a 4k tv becomes a good idea
Hopefully by then you can get something that does 4k and HDR on the cheaper side of things by then. Right now a lot of the affordable $400-600 4K sets don't seem to do HDR, which is a real bummer.
Working in broadcast - 4k will not be "sooner rather than later". Unless your definition of later is 1,000 years from now, then sure.
You won't see local TV broadcast in 4k for at least 10 years.
Companies like Netflix and Hulu can pump out whatever they want in whatever format because they don't care if it actually makes it to you in that format. Go ahead and try to stream 4k, they don't really care what you get it at.
But the companies actually providing broadcast signals are literally years away from even having the capability to do it on a large scale. And content providers won't budge until they know it's worth investing in so you actually SEE the 4k.
The general rule is cable/broadcast providers won't even start really getting into it until 30% of the market has it.
4k is at about 5%.
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2018 will probably the year where buying a 4k tv becomes a good idea
Hopefully by then you can get something that does 4k and HDR on the cheaper side of things by then. Right now a lot of the affordable $400-600 4K sets don't seem to do HDR, which is a real bummer.
HDR has only really been around for a few years in the consumer space at this point. It's actually filtering down pretty fast, relatively.
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The Vizio M series I mentioned above are 4k HDR for a really good price - $800 for 55", $1300 for 65"
I could get a good 55" 1080p television for half that price! $800 is way too much money to spend on a television!
55" LG E6 OLED is $3500 on Amazon, significantly less than a trillion :cool:
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If you're fine with your 1080p TV then more power to you but this is how every big tech generation advancement goes and 4K is poised to be the new standard within a year or two
plus 800 bucks for a future-ready 55" TV ain't bad at all
It's literally twice the price of a good television of similar size and overall build quality that will still play 90% of the available content for it in its expected lifespan. I would consider that crossing the line from "affordable" to "extravagant"
To clarify, I don't think it's a bad deal. I think it's very reasonable for the product being offered. But it is, in no way, even close to "4K being almost the same price as 1080p". People on a budget should not be buying into 4K if that's the average cost.
If someone is interested in getting set-up for widescale 4k adoption at this stage, 800 dollars is pretty reasonable.
You like your 1080p TV, that's fine, but technology is moving forward and 1080p is going to be outdated sooner rather than later. If that doesn't bug you that's also fine but lots of people like to stay current.
I'll wait and see what actual benefits there are to running games at 1080 on this thing.
Yeah I can only liken buying a 1080p set next year to buying a big ass SD CRT in ~2007. I mean sure, it'll work and most of the content right then isn't 1080p, but it's going to be pretty soon and if you don't buy a telly that often, you should probably anticipate the curve a bit.
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There is no way that 4K is becoming the de facto standard in the next 5 years.
I am explicitly responding to people in this thread saying that we should buy 4K because the prices are almost the same.
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Nearly double the price is not "extremely close". At all.
4K media is a completely different thing, however.
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The prices are dropping fast and while they still aren't equal, they likely will be next year and all of the big media companies are making the shift to focusing on 4k.
It's gonna happen and it's gonna be sooner rather than later
Unless telecommunications infrastructure magically starts improving, 4K streaming will be a luxury for the majority of customers for a long, long time. Physical media might start taking off, but I'm willing to wager it won't be nearly as big as it was in the DVD era, which is what really drove HD adoption.
So by your logic, nothing that costs more than the most rock bottom 1080p panel is a good decision? There are still plenty of 1080p panels that are $800 or higher so yes, 4K panels are competitive in price.
Also, the 50" version of the 4K Vizio being recommended is $570 at Amazon.
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Well, yes, actually, I think there are a lot of overly expensive 1080p panels out there too.
Then I remember I live in Australia
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Well either that or if isn't actually a noticeable difference for me.
Where the lines of resolution go backwards!
If you go see a 4K demo you'll notice the difference. It's absolutely gorgeous.
I need to do some research when I get home in regards to the latency
A friend of mine bought one last night (Samsung one for around $800), I'm gonna see how well that one works out for him and if it's good for gaming I'll likely get one for myself within a few weeks
this is completely ridiculous. the eye can only see 240,000 frames per second.
Yeah, most video nowadays is experienced with VOD and current data caps and bandwidth are barely reasonable for HD streaming
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This 4k push with probably drive down the price of 1080p TVs!
Sweet!
I figure I wait a bit, and see if I can find a newer one that doesnt have their HDMI ports placement designed by an asshole.
Dang (I don't wanna see cords) crowds damn near ruined TVs.
I'm kinda interested in Persona 5, but I've never played a game like that before.
Horizon: Zero Dawn is the exclusive many people are waiting on. You could try Persona 4 on PS3/Vita to see if you'll like Persona 5.
There are great 4k monitors out there starting from £350 - currently I have no need for a television so I'd definitely pick one of those up first (should I commit to whatever succeeds the 1080 - I don't see a huge need to replace my current PS4 honestly).
Hopefully by then you can get something that does 4k and HDR on the cheaper side of things by then. Right now a lot of the affordable $400-600 4K sets don't seem to do HDR, which is a real bummer.
You won't see local TV broadcast in 4k for at least 10 years.
Companies like Netflix and Hulu can pump out whatever they want in whatever format because they don't care if it actually makes it to you in that format. Go ahead and try to stream 4k, they don't really care what you get it at.
But the companies actually providing broadcast signals are literally years away from even having the capability to do it on a large scale. And content providers won't budge until they know it's worth investing in so you actually SEE the 4k.
The general rule is cable/broadcast providers won't even start really getting into it until 30% of the market has it.
4k is at about 5%.
Watch the Giant Bomb endurance run of Persona 4. I've never played a Persona game either but now I'm on fire for 5.
HDR has only really been around for a few years in the consumer space at this point. It's actually filtering down pretty fast, relatively.