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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    is archie in a poly relationship with whatshername and whoseherface yet?

    they should get it over with and have a threesome

    This may be easier than you think.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFhWuJc-qTI

    Early on it seemed like they were going to like, close the love triangle, and make the girls just as interested in each other as they were interested in Archie.

    Which kind of seems like an interesting approach, if nothing else it kinid of gives the girls a bit more chance to be indecisive themselves instead of just twiddling their thumbs waiting for Archie all the time.

    But from comments from the actresses and the way the episodes have gone since then, it doesn't seem like they're actually going that way.

    In which case the kiss is just kind of dumb, instead of a setup for anything.

    Maybe the show runner decided at the last minute to drop the set up, though you're right it could just have been for fan service too.

    The first like 2 episodes felt like they were setting up a lot of hints that Veronica was kind of into Betty. The kiss, trying to convince her that her whole thing Archie wasn't going to work out, going like super overboard with the charm offensive when Betty was pissed at her. It felt like Veronica was basically trying to catch Betty on the rebound.

    But apparently not.

    :(

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    For Honor is teaching my why I stopped playing PvP games with randos

    People are literally the worst

    soon, MEA will be out and there will be no need for PVP.

    I seriously wish I could just set the Daily Orders and Contract Orders to vs AI only

    Players are often easier to kill than bots but at least I don't have to deal with racist homophobic pieces of shit when I'm killing bots.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
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    So much schadenfreude.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Hello Schadenfreunde.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    I believe that's the third book he's announced and then not produced.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Hello Schadenfreunde.

    Hello Hello Schadenfreunde I'm dad

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    I'm not sure joy and MIlo's misfortune is shameful

    (yes I know Lisa defined it incorrectly)

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    I believe that's the third book he's announced and then not produced.

    Canceled or not bothered making the book for the publisher? The latter can get your sued.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    I wouldn't put it past him at all to say something controversial to get out of having to write a book.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    too real and raw
    "Such willpower!"

    The eyes of onlookers widen in amazement as you look lingeringly over each treat, cooing in proper delight and complimenting every one, but then allow the tray to pass by. Someone applauds. Fortunately, no one notices your leg trembling.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Bogart wrote: »
    I believe that's the third book he's announced and then not produced.

    Canceled or not bothered making the book for the publisher? The latter can get your sued.

    I don't think either of the others had a publisher, he just said he was writing a book about Gamergate and something else I can't be bothered to look up. So far nothing.

    I guess it's wise not to delight too much in the misfortunes of others, and there's certainly a large element of oh now he's a terrible person? But still.

    lol

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Ezra Klein wrote:
    Can Facebook help humanity take its “next step”?

    ...

    But with this manifesto, Zuckerberg is articulating an ambition that is in some ways grander than the US presidency: He wants to use Facebook as the platform on which to build a global civil society, creating a service that encourages communities and cooperation and political participation on a transnational scale. He frames national governments as merely one piece of “social infrastructure,” and suggests that the world might need something to push beyond their limits. He wants Facebook to help humanity take its “next step.”

    ...

    Sapiens, which is written by the Israeli historian Yuval Harari, is a mind-bending look at why and how Homo sapiens took over the earth. It begins by establishing our species’ lowly beginnings. “The most important thing to know about prehistoric humans is that they were insignificant animals with no more impact on their environment than gorillas, fireflies or jellyfish,” Harari writes.

    ...

    The task Zuckerberg is setting for Facebook is nothing less than building a platform atop which a truly global civil society can flourish.

    ...

    For all the talk of whether Zuckerberg aspires to make Facebook a quasi-governmental entity, or whether he hopes to use it to launch himself into leadership of an actual government, what he’s outlining here is a vision that would make Facebook the primary platform mediating those “many layers of communities between us and government” — but on a global scale.

    This is art. All while Zuckerberg was talking up his vision of whatever it is he's doing, I wondered what kind person would seriously entertain the thoughts of great Silicon Valley leader. This should go into the Vox hall of fame.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Zuckerberg's image of Facebook and the reality of it seem quite different.

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    HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    The gravity in my simulation was 98m/s2 for some reason and it looked absolutely bonkers.

    PSN: Honkalot
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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    It's like he's trying for the JC Denton ending of Deus Ex invisible war, but more crappy

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Ezra Klein wrote:
    Can Facebook help humanity take its “next step”?

    ...

    But with this manifesto, Zuckerberg is articulating an ambition that is in some ways grander than the US presidency: He wants to use Facebook as the platform on which to build a global civil society, creating a service that encourages communities and cooperation and political participation on a transnational scale. He frames national governments as merely one piece of “social infrastructure,” and suggests that the world might need something to push beyond their limits. He wants Facebook to help humanity take its “next step.”

    ...

    Sapiens, which is written by the Israeli historian Yuval Harari, is a mind-bending look at why and how Homo sapiens took over the earth. It begins by establishing our species’ lowly beginnings. “The most important thing to know about prehistoric humans is that they were insignificant animals with no more impact on their environment than gorillas, fireflies or jellyfish,” Harari writes.

    ...

    The task Zuckerberg is setting for Facebook is nothing less than building a platform atop which a truly global civil society can flourish.

    ...

    For all the talk of whether Zuckerberg aspires to make Facebook a quasi-governmental entity, or whether he hopes to use it to launch himself into leadership of an actual government, what he’s outlining here is a vision that would make Facebook the primary platform mediating those “many layers of communities between us and government” — but on a global scale.

    This is art. All while Zuckerberg was talking up his vision of whatever it is he's doing, I wondered what kind person would seriously entertain the thoughts of great Silicon Valley leader. This should go into the Vox hall of fame.

    I wonder how this vision includes a reason why there aren't any moderators?

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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Oh, yeah. I finished DE: Mankind Divided. It was good!

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Ezra Klein wrote:
    Can Facebook help humanity take its “next step”?

    ...

    But with this manifesto, Zuckerberg is articulating an ambition that is in some ways grander than the US presidency: He wants to use Facebook as the platform on which to build a global civil society, creating a service that encourages communities and cooperation and political participation on a transnational scale. He frames national governments as merely one piece of “social infrastructure,” and suggests that the world might need something to push beyond their limits. He wants Facebook to help humanity take its “next step.”

    ...

    Sapiens, which is written by the Israeli historian Yuval Harari, is a mind-bending look at why and how Homo sapiens took over the earth. It begins by establishing our species’ lowly beginnings. “The most important thing to know about prehistoric humans is that they were insignificant animals with no more impact on their environment than gorillas, fireflies or jellyfish,” Harari writes.

    ...

    The task Zuckerberg is setting for Facebook is nothing less than building a platform atop which a truly global civil society can flourish.

    ...

    For all the talk of whether Zuckerberg aspires to make Facebook a quasi-governmental entity, or whether he hopes to use it to launch himself into leadership of an actual government, what he’s outlining here is a vision that would make Facebook the primary platform mediating those “many layers of communities between us and government” — but on a global scale.

    This is art. All while Zuckerberg was talking up his vision of whatever it is he's doing, I wondered what kind person would seriously entertain the thoughts of great Silicon Valley leader. This should go into the Vox hall of fame.

    I wonder how this vision includes a reason why there aren't any moderators?

    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    too real and raw
    "Such willpower!"

    The eyes of onlookers widen in amazement as you look lingeringly over each treat, cooing in proper delight and complimenting every one, but then allow the tray to pass by. Someone applauds. Fortunately, no one notices your leg trembling.

    Haha I posted that exact same excerpt a couple days ago jkosh

    That one hit all too close to home

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    I think the bleeding edge has fallen out of love with spontaneous online communities a bit

    ideologically speaking

    the quest to make gatekeeping scale does seem tailor-made for the big data era

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    rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »

    I'm going to be disappointed if she doesn't have to repeat everything to beast twice.

    "I'm sorry I was concentrating on something else"

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Bleeding edge tends to not be so hot when the tech has no one there to say "Don't do that shit." His philosophy of making FB into a proto-government (what is he, Peter Wiggin?) when government itself is built to moderate both the citizens under their protection and keep their branches in check. Facebook does neither right. In fact, it's an embarrassment on that front.

    edit: We have an example of what this looks like in an actual government, and I'm not sure that's what he wanted to capture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQ8WFqMVqo

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    rockrngerrockrnger Registered User regular
    This Roman era eu4 mod is really scratching an itch.

    Now I'm supporting a bunch of colonies for no real reason and attacking people to bring in enough money to not go broke so super historically accurate.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.
    No, there would be a lot more porn and gore if they didn't.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Coinage wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.
    No, there would be a lot more porn and gore if they didn't.

    That's just it, it's great that they stop to clean that up - unfortunately they leave everything else like it's a jungle and only the strong survive. That's why competent moderators are important. That they can get rid of the gore and the porn doesn't mean the their duty ends there to keep it safe for everyone. It's like having police that are only interested in stopping thieves and serial killers.

    edit: Simply put, moderators should be seen and felt in online communities. A poorly moderated online community is a recipe for disaster.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.
    No, there would be a lot more porn and gore if they didn't.

    That's just it, it's great that they stop to clean that up - unfortunately they leave everything else like it's a jungle and only the strong survive. That's why competent moderators are important. That they can get rid of the gore and the porn doesn't mean the their duty ends there to keep it safe for everyone. It's like having police that are only interested in stopping thieves and serial killers.

    edit: Simply put, moderators should be seen and felt in online communities. A poorly moderated online community is a recipe for disaster.
    Yeah, but there are articles about people getting PTSD from their time as Facebook moderators, maybe have a little more appreciation than zero.

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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.
    No, there would be a lot more porn and gore if they didn't.

    That's just it, it's great that they stop to clean that up - unfortunately they leave everything else like it's a jungle and only the strong survive. That's why competent moderators are important. That they can get rid of the gore and the porn doesn't mean the their duty ends there to keep it safe for everyone. It's like having police that are only interested in stopping thieves and serial killers.

    edit: Simply put, moderators should be seen and felt in online communities. A poorly moderated online community is a recipe for disaster.

    It's not really a coincidence that the more pro-"freedom of speech" an online community is, the bigger the garbage fire that it tends to be.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Coinage wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    but there are. they're just disposable and anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

    I don't know if it's just me, but that link doesn't have a side bar that lets me go downward to read the piece.

    edit: And from what I know about FB is that they're as useless as twitter. They may as well not exist.
    No, there would be a lot more porn and gore if they didn't.

    That's just it, it's great that they stop to clean that up - unfortunately they leave everything else like it's a jungle and only the strong survive. That's why competent moderators are important. That they can get rid of the gore and the porn doesn't mean the their duty ends there to keep it safe for everyone. It's like having police that are only interested in stopping thieves and serial killers.

    edit: Simply put, moderators should be seen and felt in online communities. A poorly moderated online community is a recipe for disaster.
    Yeah, but there are articles about people getting PTSD from their time as Facebook moderators, maybe have a little more appreciation than zero.

    I already said they did a good job on those aspects, that's hardly zero. And it is important for FB to do more as moderators, since they clearly have more work to do to make the site safe for its community. It's a big site, and they are clearly don't have either the man power or resources that the site needs. That's a massive failure for any site, especially one as popular as FB.

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    Facebook moderators definitely do a lot of work.

    They just tend to side with the bigots, from what I've seen.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    the moral standards of #deeplyreligiousthirdworldcountry are probably not especially progressive compared to midwestern USA

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    ronya wrote: »
    the moral standards of #deeplyreligiousthirdworldcountry are probably not especially progressive compared to midwestern USA

    Are you comparing FB to a third world country?

    edit: Zucker himself is progressive/centrist Democrat from what I know about him, that's why FB's development is so bizarre. It's like we're learning he's secretly Paul Ryan in disguise.

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    Oh they went full musical with beauty and the beast huh. Well that bucks their live action princess trend. You know Cinderella was so shockingly good I almost think Disney knows what they're doing. (Full disclosure I liked Malificent as well)

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    We banished Western Civ from the curriculum and got Trump in the WH. My WSJ column explains the connection.

    I'm pretty sure it has to do with the scaling back of dodgeball in PE class. Like, 99%.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    the moral standards of #deeplyreligiousthirdworldcountry are probably not especially progressive compared to midwestern USA

    Are you comparing FB to a third world country?

    edit: Zucker himself is progressive/centrist Democrat from what I know about him, that's why FB's development is so bizarre. It's like we're learning he's secretly Paul Ryan in disguise.

    the wired article describes FB outsourcing moderation to callcenteresque moderation centers in metro Manila

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    I am snorting this milo shit like the finest cocaine btw. I hope his tie gets caught in a paper shredder

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    the moral standards of #deeplyreligiousthirdworldcountry are probably not especially progressive compared to midwestern USA

    Are you comparing FB to a third world country?

    edit: Zucker himself is progressive/centrist Democrat from what I know about him, that's why FB's development is so bizarre. It's like we're learning he's secretly Paul Ryan in disguise.

    the wired article describes FB outsourcing moderation to callcenteresque moderation centers in metro Manila

    This isn't going to help FB in the long run by ethic standards, you're right. It's baffling how bad sites like twitter and Facebook have bungled their moderating, they can't rely on typical corporate outsourcing to solve this problem.

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