An aside here, I think it was either Belias or Madeen that taught me to get all the kills I want after a first clear because once I lose the timing/cast order, everything goes to hell. For instance, despite having better tech, I can't reclear the T0 Torment.
Wow, these Unleash Soul Battles are something. I had Cloud dealing just a smidge under one million damage per turn, the rest of my party combined chipping in for about another million per turn, and it took several turns of that kind of beating to put down. What a HP sponge
So this time, a Valefor attempt failed at the start of phase 3 (which takes a good 10 minutes to get to on a good run), because I had the clever idea to set my speed to 5 while Valefor was doing all those phase 3 buffs. At which point I discover that itโs possible to take an action between Ice Diffusion and Exalted Spirits (buffs, plus Proshellga and Haste). Because of this, Elarra uses Dispel a split second before Valefor got buffed, and it did nothing, leaving her with an entire interminable turn to wait while Valefor ran roughshod over my team. And then another to heal. As you may have guessed, this run did not end in victory.
Just, fuckinโ god dammit.
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I hear you. That is how I felt for months on ifrit. Youโll get it eventually but maybe take a break for a bit.
Heh. Ticket got me a flute weapon, so I immediately realized it was for Deuce. But I thought "Well, it's not the Argentic Flute I got before; that one has vines on it, so I'm pretty sure it's a different Deuce USB." It happened to be a new Deuce USB, but it actually was the Argentic Flute. The thing I had got before was the Anima Flute. Not a very interesting anecdote, but I thought it was a little amusing at the time.
Anyway, decent get for free. Healing, Raise, and Bubble. Her other USB is Healing, RES and Last Stand, so this is good for after I've applied Last Stand, and before it pops.
Arc USB something that goes with his new AASB (chase on Summon). I.. Could actually field a cool water magic team for Ifrit.
Ceodore AOSB. Huh, first relic on the guy cool.
Ramza AASB... WTF. That's pretty good on my chain holder!
Just realized that Rosa's USB2 (the Elarra USB1 clone) is available in the lens shop. Which has me considering what teams she would be better for than Elarra, since she can use Wrath. I figure it would have to be a team where the loss of Bard or Dance doesn't hurt.
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Oops, I need to do this week's torment stuff all today.
Gonna just run over Wrexsoul a buncha times with my VI team.
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So for all of you trying to figure out how awesome Terra Limit Break the incredible 7 star item is:
One gauge bar hit omega fire weak for 3445 x 4! no imperil, level 1 rage.
So for all of you trying to figure out how awesome Terra Limit Break the incredible 7 star item is:
One gauge bar hit omega fire weak for 3445 x 4! no imperil, level 1 rage.
I'm less than impressed.
IIRC, it's the not using your SB resources that makes it appealing. But you're right that with those numbers I was not interested in going out of my way for Vivi's. Now gimme Limit Glints. That shit sounds sick.
So for all of you trying to figure out how awesome Terra Limit Break the incredible 7 star item is:
One gauge bar hit omega fire weak for 3445 x 4! no imperil, level 1 rage.
I'm less than impressed.
It does eight times as much damage at a full three bars. Also, honing is apparently super important for LBOs: if you have it at hone 5, that's another 2.5x multiplier. Putting those two factors together, it could have done twenty times as much damage as in your test (so, 68k x 4). Not bad for not spending your SB meter.
Not recommending drawing for dupes, though, and I'm wary of spending a mountain of lenses for honing scrolls, when those could go towards getting a second cast of an AASB.
In any case, you may not need to hone it for it to get as high as that; later on in the fight, factors like imperil, bard buffs, stacking Enfire, and the like, will have a strong impact. These definitely sound like a finisher, alike with Arcane Overstrikes.
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I'm continuing testing by which I mean I can't kill Omega:fire weak I have no chance at shiva *sob*
I'm continuing testing by which I mean I can't kill Omega:fire weak I have no chance at shiva *sob*
Do you have Terra's fire awakening? I was able to kill off phase 2 ice walls before Shiva got a heal off, mostly on the back of Terra USB1+AASB, which is one of the major hurdles of that fight.
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3 bars of limit break and one stack of imperil did hit 400k against rage 2 so that's good. I'm not sure if it pierces rage damage reduction, it just says pierces def and res.
I'm continuing testing by which I mean I can't kill Omega:fire weak I have no chance at shiva *sob*
Do you have Terra's fire awakening? I was able to kill off phase 2 ice walls before Shiva got a heal off, mostly on the back of Terra USB1+AASB, which is one of the major hurdles of that fight.
I do! But I only have Krile's fire chain or lockes.
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I am officially the dumbest human being.
I got Shiva to 1%! In the mean time she did big aoe-> eat a glacier -> big aoe, and I hit wrath on tyro instead of entrusting Elarra, not knowing she was short on meter and couldn't top everyone off. So 2nd big aoe wipes the team, and I hit reset. But wait, why is Locke standing up... OMG his Trance had healed him after the first AoE, and he had his Sync going and could've taken that last 1% off.
I am kicking myself so hard right now. I am just the worst.
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3 bars of limit break and one stack of imperil did hit 400k against rage 2 so that's good. I'm not sure if it pierces rage damage reduction, it just says pierces def and res.
I'm continuing testing by which I mean I can't kill Omega:fire weak I have no chance at shiva *sob*
Do you have Terra's fire awakening? I was able to kill off phase 2 ice walls before Shiva got a heal off, mostly on the back of Terra USB1+AASB, which is one of the major hurdles of that fight.
I do! But I only have Krile's fire chain or lockes.
So my almost Shiva kill has RW Chain and 3 dps, Tyro and Elarra. It's not a kill yet, but it's something to consider if your Chain holder isn't pulling their weight.
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3 bars of limit break and one stack of imperil did hit 400k against rage 2 so that's good. I'm not sure if it pierces rage damage reduction, it just says pierces def and res.
I'm continuing testing by which I mean I can't kill Omega:fire weak I have no chance at shiva *sob*
Do you have Terra's fire awakening? I was able to kill off phase 2 ice walls before Shiva got a heal off, mostly on the back of Terra USB1+AASB, which is one of the major hurdles of that fight.
I do! But I only have Krile's fire chain or lockes.
Definitely Krile chain for a mage team; you can pick up her imperil burst and enfire glint if you don't have them yet, I think. And hopefully you've got another strong Fire mage to go with Terra. I'd say Elarra with Mage's Hymn and ACM, plus a support character with a MAG-buffing soul break, will make up for not having a MAG-buffing Chain; Onion Knight and Dr Mog are options that first come to mind. That, or pair Elarra with Tyro, and take Fabula Raider for a buff.
or, give some extra meter to Krile, and have her use Sheepsong along with her Chain. If you can manage that one, you'll be able to take Fabula Mage.
The other team option that I forgot about would be to use 3 full DPS instead of a chain holder, and take Fabula Sorcerer for a chain.
Man. Doing Wrexsoul has me remembering that I have a bunch of fun stuff for Mog, and yet I almost never use him. I blame my reliance on Entrust for Elarra; having a support without Support 5 keeps being difficult to justify, even when he can chase dances with a Medica or more debuffs. Next time I rebuild a mage team for a 5-star Magicite, I should at least see what I can do with a Mog/Elarra team; she can build extra meter using summons.
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Wait, what if I were to start using RW Chain in Magicite, and use Mog or Gogo in place of the chain holder? That could work...
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An aside here, I think it was either Belias or Madeen that taught me to get all the kills I want after a first clear because once I lose the timing/cast order, everything goes to hell. For instance, despite having better tech, I can't reclear the T0 Torment.
I didnโt get Valefor. And my runs are deteriorating in quality, if anything.
Ff6: dupe Edgar USB
Ff7: ....halo?!
Tifa sync.
DEFINITELY not doing the random sync draw now.
Hell of a last LotRoP draw. If I wanted to burn a ton of lenses, I could have a complete Tifa minus her G+ and wcast LMR.
So this time, a Valefor attempt failed at the start of phase 3 (which takes a good 10 minutes to get to on a good run), because I had the clever idea to set my speed to 5 while Valefor was doing all those phase 3 buffs. At which point I discover that itโs possible to take an action between Ice Diffusion and Exalted Spirits (buffs, plus Proshellga and Haste). Because of this, Elarra uses Dispel a split second before Valefor got buffed, and it did nothing, leaving her with an entire interminable turn to wait while Valefor ran roughshod over my team. And then another to heal. As you may have guessed, this run did not end in victory.
Just, fuckinโ god dammit.
Just had to make sure to write down the strategy I'd been using, so I don't forget the method when I return.
Anyway, decent get for free. Healing, Raise, and Bubble. Her other USB is Healing, RES and Last Stand, so this is good for after I've applied Last Stand, and before it pops.
Arc USB something that goes with his new AASB (chase on Summon). I.. Could actually field a cool water magic team for Ifrit.
Ceodore AOSB. Huh, first relic on the guy cool.
Ramza AASB... WTF. That's pretty good on my chain holder!
Yup.
Well, that's 8 additional mythril.
Gonna just run over Wrexsoul a buncha times with my VI team.
One gauge bar hit omega fire weak for 3445 x 4! no imperil, level 1 rage.
I'm less than impressed.
IIRC, it's the not using your SB resources that makes it appealing. But you're right that with those numbers I was not interested in going out of my way for Vivi's. Now gimme Limit Glints. That shit sounds sick.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/114492-final-fantasy-record-keeper/78587048
I would see what it does at 3 bars.
It does eight times as much damage at a full three bars. Also, honing is apparently super important for LBOs: if you have it at hone 5, that's another 2.5x multiplier. Putting those two factors together, it could have done twenty times as much damage as in your test (so, 68k x 4). Not bad for not spending your SB meter.
Not recommending drawing for dupes, though, and I'm wary of spending a mountain of lenses for honing scrolls, when those could go towards getting a second cast of an AASB.
Do you have Terra's fire awakening? I was able to kill off phase 2 ice walls before Shiva got a heal off, mostly on the back of Terra USB1+AASB, which is one of the major hurdles of that fight.
I do! But I only have Krile's fire chain or lockes.
I got Shiva to 1%! In the mean time she did big aoe-> eat a glacier -> big aoe, and I hit wrath on tyro instead of entrusting Elarra, not knowing she was short on meter and couldn't top everyone off. So 2nd big aoe wipes the team, and I hit reset. But wait, why is Locke standing up... OMG his Trance had healed him after the first AoE, and he had his Sync going and could've taken that last 1% off.
I am kicking myself so hard right now. I am just the worst.
So my almost Shiva kill has RW Chain and 3 dps, Tyro and Elarra. It's not a kill yet, but it's something to consider if your Chain holder isn't pulling their weight.
Nope. Imperils an enElements weren't really around until pretty late into the SSB era. There are a few uniques that snuck in, but they're rare.
Definitely Krile chain for a mage team; you can pick up her imperil burst and enfire glint if you don't have them yet, I think. And hopefully you've got another strong Fire mage to go with Terra. I'd say Elarra with Mage's Hymn and ACM, plus a support character with a MAG-buffing soul break, will make up for not having a MAG-buffing Chain; Onion Knight and Dr Mog are options that first come to mind. That, or pair Elarra with Tyro, and take Fabula Raider for a buff.
or, give some extra meter to Krile, and have her use Sheepsong along with her Chain. If you can manage that one, you'll be able to take Fabula Mage.
The other team option that I forgot about would be to use 3 full DPS instead of a chain holder, and take Fabula Sorcerer for a chain.
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Wait, what if I were to start using RW Chain in Magicite, and use Mog or Gogo in place of the chain holder? That could work...