Looks like an announcement about abandoning parts or all of the Northern Ireland protocol is imminent.
What with the war now was not the time to oust Boris for breaking the law whilst Prime Minister but now is the time to start a trade war with the EU and renege on international obligations.
Looks like an announcement about abandoning parts or all of the Northern Ireland protocol is imminent.
What with the war now was not the time to oust Boris for breaking the law whilst Prime Minister but now is the time to start a trade war with the EU and renege on international obligations.
Give it some time, I'm sure stuff with start right back up in NI, as well.
The NI Protocol required by its design trade barriers and checks in the Irish Sea-a choice by this PM...and yet now the govt is trying to convince people its flagship achievement was not a negotiating triumph but so flawed that they cannot abide by it.
Either they did not understand their own agreement, were not up front about the reality of it or intended to break it all along. The PM negotiated it, signed it, ran an election campaign on it- he must take responsibility for it.
From the Labour shadow Foreign Minister in response to Liz Truss's statement announcing they're going to rip up only some of the treaty they signed. A reasonable summation.
They will rip up the treaty in a very specific and limited way
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I haven't seen any details on what parts they're ripping up, I assume they're going to ditch any plans on the sea border and dare the EU to install checks between RoI and NI in order to protect the single market.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
I mean this could just be "removing the NIP 2.0: bluffing harder".
Truss claims the changes wont break international law, no idea how unilateral changes aren't illegal.
They'll pass a law to make it legal to break international law. The international community will have to accept that, or they're not respecting our sovereignty!
Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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Maybe the government thinks that with the economic hit from the war in Ukraine the EU might not be willing to retaliate. Assuming the government has put any thought into this at all.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Maybe the government thinks that with the economic hit from the war in Ukraine the EU might not be willing to retaliate. Assuming the government has put any thought into this at all.
What government would be willing to take a course of action that results in economic self-harm, purely out of principle?
*ahem*
Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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Maybe the government thinks that with the economic hit from the war in Ukraine the EU might not be willing to retaliate. Assuming the government has put any thought into this at all.
What government would be willing to take a course of action that results in economic self-harm, purely out of principle?
*ahem*
The US: "We are busy at the moment giving away entire nations worth of GDP in weapons. Come back later"
UK: "Hold my beer."
A Tory MP has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, it has been reported, with the party banning him from attending the House of Commons.
Following the report, a Conservative Whips’ Office spokesperson said the MP would be asked not to come to parliament. “The chief whip has asked that the MP concerned does not attend the parliamentary estate while an investigation is ongoing. Until the conclusion of the investigation we will not be commenting further.”
Scotland Yard told the Sun, which revealed the arrest: “A man was arrested on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust and misconduct in a public office.”
I can't imagine it'll take long to figure out who, but add that to the higher end of the MPs, and specifically Tories, (allegedly) doing all the crimes.
Pay, excluding bonuses, rose by 4.2% between January and March but failed to keep up with the rising cost of living - which hit 7% in March and is expected to go higher.
It meant that pay, when adjusted for the impact of rising prices, and excluding bonuses, dropped by 1.2% - the biggest fall since 2013.
A lot of people are calling this a cost of living crisis.
Why don't you tell us who deserves a real terms pay cut to keep further inflation at bay?
We're seeing Lawyers getting six figures in their first jobs on completing a traineeship at the moment, we rely too much on public sector consultants, with those involved in track and trace getting upwards of a grand a day and senior public sector workings in the rail industry are earning around three to four times the amount of the Prime Minister at the moment.
On the subject of who has managed to make a profit out of this
Mr Morgan said: "Continued strong bonuses in some sectors such as construction and especially finance mean that total pay is continuing to grow faster than prices on average, but underlying regular earnings are now falling sharply in real terms.
Bonuses are up, rich getting richer - though hopefully there are good counterexamples in this thread where it's played out differently.
I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
I'm losing track, is this the second Tory MP charged with rape in the past couple of months?
This is a new one. Not the Tory nonce who quit being an MP a month ago. Nor the Dover Tory MP who was convicted of sexual assault a couple of years ago. Also not the Tory MP who was caught watching porn in the Commons. Or the other Tory MP who was suspended following allegations of sexual harassment and pictures of him next to a big pile of coke. Nor is it
I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
i imagine the key bit of help with the NIP the government need would be for it to have been 1) better made (if only they could find who drafted it) 2) signed by a party who intended to hold to it (if only we could find those naughty boys) 3) done with the consent of the primary theoretical political allies of the government rather than over their bitter protests (good lord strange how these pile up) 4) for them to give one iota of a flying fuck about northern ireland at all 5) for them to have been serious about solving any of the actual problems involved rather than desperately yelling there are no problems and kicking the can down the road
lets not pretend they are serious
lets not pretend they are capable of being helped as if somehow the failures are an honest effort gone wrong rather than the natural consequence of idiocy, dishonesty and short-sighted political calculus shorn of all seriousness
there is not one single solitary thing any official could have done which is sad really when u think about it
I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
i imagine the key bit of help with the NIP the government need would be for it to have been 1) better made (if only they could find who drafted it) 2) signed by a party who intended to hold to it (if only we could find those naughty boys) 3) done with the consent of the primary theoretical political allies of the government rather than over their bitter protests (good lord strange how these pile up) 4) for them to give one iota of a flying fuck about northern ireland at all 5) for them to have been serious about solving any of the actual problems involved rather than desperately yelling there are no problems and kicking the can down the road
lets not pretend they are serious
lets not pretend they are capable of being helped as if somehow the failures are an honest effort gone wrong rather than the natural consequence of idiocy, dishonesty and short-sighted political calculus shorn of all seriousness
there is not one single solitary thing any official could have done which is sad really when u think about it
I guess the question a lot of us are asking now is what is going to happen next and how is it going to make our lives measurably worse than they already are?
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I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
i imagine the key bit of help with the NIP the government need would be for it to have been 1) better made (if only they could find who drafted it) 2) signed by a party who intended to hold to it (if only we could find those naughty boys) 3) done with the consent of the primary theoretical political allies of the government rather than over their bitter protests (good lord strange how these pile up) 4) for them to give one iota of a flying fuck about northern ireland at all 5) for them to have been serious about solving any of the actual problems involved rather than desperately yelling there are no problems and kicking the can down the road
lets not pretend they are serious
lets not pretend they are capable of being helped as if somehow the failures are an honest effort gone wrong rather than the natural consequence of idiocy, dishonesty and short-sighted political calculus shorn of all seriousness
there is not one single solitary thing any official could have done which is sad really when u think about it
I guess the question a lot of us are asking now is what is going to happen next and how is it going to make our lives measurably worse than they already are?
there will probs be some kind of fudge but it strongly depends on what happens in stormont and what the eu end up feeling it is sensible to suggest if there is either a) violence b) really serious misbehaviour by uk gov beyond merely yelling about article 16 for the 8 millionth time
there is an imaginary world where the gov accepts a bunch of the mitigation measures suggested by the eu earlier this year and negotiate a few more while accepting a few minor dings but this will not happen because they are a joke
This is at least the tenth time I've said this but DO NOT wish for or advocate death or serious harm on people, even the hopeless, incompetent pieces of shit that are this government.
Because it can VERY OBVIOUSLY get the forums into trouble.
I am genuinely curious what the stats are for the number of sex offenders in the PCP compared to an average population sample? Obviously not that much of an issue with an 80 seat majority but if the next election is as close as it looks attrition to criminal convictions could be a serious concern for them...
The rapists are a big enough problem for them but throw in the financial crimes/corruption, drugs offences, hit and runs (yep that's happened in this parliament), sexual harassment ect ect. They need to factor in losing ~5 MPs a year to the police.
I am genuinely curious what the stats are for the number of sex offenders in the PCP compared to an average population sample? Obviously not that much of an issue with an 80 seat majority but if the next election is as close as it looks attrition to criminal convictions could be a serious concern for them...
The rapists are a big enough problem for them but throw in the financial crimes/corruption, drugs offences, hit and runs (yep that's happened in this parliament), sexual harassment ect ect. They need to factor in losing ~5 MPs a year to the police.
I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
i imagine the key bit of help with the NIP the government need would be for it to have been 1) better made (if only they could find who drafted it) 2) signed by a party who intended to hold to it (if only we could find those naughty boys) 3) done with the consent of the primary theoretical political allies of the government rather than over their bitter protests (good lord strange how these pile up) 4) for them to give one iota of a flying fuck about northern ireland at all 5) for them to have been serious about solving any of the actual problems involved rather than desperately yelling there are no problems and kicking the can down the road
lets not pretend they are serious
lets not pretend they are capable of being helped as if somehow the failures are an honest effort gone wrong rather than the natural consequence of idiocy, dishonesty and short-sighted political calculus shorn of all seriousness
there is not one single solitary thing any official could have done which is sad really when u think about it
Ha, definitely not asking for folk to help the Government on these things, but it's been remarkably tough getting anyone to really lean in on the official level to help set a new direction. Anyone who wants to get involved and is on the inside, hit me up.
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in another capacity ive been asked to assist in the trolling of senior officials at BEIS about nuclear power plants so im doing my part to ruin life for officials everywhere
in another capacity ive been asked to assist in the trolling of senior officials at BEIS about nuclear power plants so im doing my part to ruin life for officials everywhere
What is your job, exactly?
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in another capacity ive been asked to assist in the trolling of senior officials at BEIS about nuclear power plants so im doing my part to ruin life for officials everywhere
Oh! We had them in last week to chat. Are we not a fan of BEIS nuclear?
in another capacity ive been asked to assist in the trolling of senior officials at BEIS about nuclear power plants so im doing my part to ruin life for officials everywhere
What is your job, exactly?
if i was working properly i would be a computational neuroscientist but instead i just crab around
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in another capacity ive been asked to assist in the trolling of senior officials at BEIS about nuclear power plants so im doing my part to ruin life for officials everywhere
Oh! We had them in last week to chat. Are we not a fan of BEIS nuclear?
generic idea is, aside from being boris-driven, fine as far as it goes but the specific epr at hinkley is v likely to be up shit creek £25bn price tag and delays aside; even considering building one at sizewell c is categorically insane. the epr is such an awful idea even the french gov arent considering building any more and are ahem building the epr2 instead, the chinese got their fill of it and are building no more and sticking to their own design, so the idea we would go from scratch to build a new one in the year of our lord 20-whenever is comical in cost per mw terms, speed and just... working
and certainly its unjustifiable to do much more at hinkley until the epr at flamanville takes account of whatever has happened at taishan, but the chinese regulators are saying nothing and all evidence suggests u have really severe - and known by the french nuclear regulators - fundamental flow defects in the reactor vessel but yeah its all jolly
problem is its nominally 7% of uk power so...
its very funny to me that the gov is suggesting we need nuclear to provide reliable energy then buy it from edf when multiple times over the last few months 28 of the 56 french reactors have been offline
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What with the war now was not the time to oust Boris for breaking the law whilst Prime Minister but now is the time to start a trade war with the EU and renege on international obligations.
Give it some time, I'm sure stuff with start right back up in NI, as well.
From the Labour shadow Foreign Minister in response to Liz Truss's statement announcing they're going to rip up only some of the treaty they signed. A reasonable summation.
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Truss claims the changes wont break international law, no idea how unilateral changes aren't illegal.
They'll pass a law to make it legal to break international law. The international community will have to accept that, or they're not respecting our sovereignty!
What government would be willing to take a course of action that results in economic self-harm, purely out of principle?
*ahem*
UK: "Hold my beer."
I can't imagine it'll take long to figure out who, but add that to the higher end of the MPs, and specifically Tories, (allegedly) doing all the crimes.
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Subtlety, Cowards etc.
None of the rest of it, though
For or against?
He's trending on twitter...
Depends who's committing it
Latest stats from the Beeb
Did pay manage to beat inflation?
Pay, excluding bonuses, rose by 4.2% between January and March but failed to keep up with the rising cost of living - which hit 7% in March and is expected to go higher.
It meant that pay, when adjusted for the impact of rising prices, and excluding bonuses, dropped by 1.2% - the biggest fall since 2013.
A lot of people are calling this a cost of living crisis.
On the subject of who has managed to make a profit out of this
Mr Morgan said: "Continued strong bonuses in some sectors such as construction and especially finance mean that total pay is continuing to grow faster than prices on average, but underlying regular earnings are now falling sharply in real terms.
Bonuses are up, rich getting richer - though hopefully there are good counterexamples in this thread where it's played out differently.
I've had my head stuck in Ukraine for the last few months, but it's weird to see that NIP, Government Reform, and the war have all poked up in the thread in a medley - some help on them would be appreciated.
Yeah, Imran Ahmad Khan was convicted of sexually assaulting a fifteen year old
Don't even know what to say about this aside from rough times ahead, I guess.
This is a new one. Not the Tory nonce who quit being an MP a month ago. Nor the Dover Tory MP who was convicted of sexual assault a couple of years ago. Also not the Tory MP who was caught watching porn in the Commons. Or the other Tory MP who was suspended following allegations of sexual harassment and pictures of him next to a big pile of coke. Nor is it
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i imagine the key bit of help with the NIP the government need would be for it to have been 1) better made (if only they could find who drafted it) 2) signed by a party who intended to hold to it (if only we could find those naughty boys) 3) done with the consent of the primary theoretical political allies of the government rather than over their bitter protests (good lord strange how these pile up) 4) for them to give one iota of a flying fuck about northern ireland at all 5) for them to have been serious about solving any of the actual problems involved rather than desperately yelling there are no problems and kicking the can down the road
lets not pretend they are serious
lets not pretend they are capable of being helped as if somehow the failures are an honest effort gone wrong rather than the natural consequence of idiocy, dishonesty and short-sighted political calculus shorn of all seriousness
there is not one single solitary thing any official could have done which is sad really when u think about it
I guess the question a lot of us are asking now is what is going to happen next and how is it going to make our lives measurably worse than they already are?
there will probs be some kind of fudge but it strongly depends on what happens in stormont and what the eu end up feeling it is sensible to suggest if there is either a) violence b) really serious misbehaviour by uk gov beyond merely yelling about article 16 for the 8 millionth time
there is an imaginary world where the gov accepts a bunch of the mitigation measures suggested by the eu earlier this year and negotiate a few more while accepting a few minor dings but this will not happen because they are a joke
I literally hope they all die in a fire
Because it can VERY OBVIOUSLY get the forums into trouble.
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Guys....it's just a matter of buying value brands, or learning how to cook, or just go get a better paid job, or ride the bus for a bit.
The rapists are a big enough problem for them but throw in the financial crimes/corruption, drugs offences, hit and runs (yep that's happened in this parliament), sexual harassment ect ect. They need to factor in losing ~5 MPs a year to the police.
There's a solution for that - make sure the police do only what you tell them to.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/15/priti-patel-accused-of-power-grab-over-new-policing-proposals
Ha, definitely not asking for folk to help the Government on these things, but it's been remarkably tough getting anyone to really lean in on the official level to help set a new direction. Anyone who wants to get involved and is on the inside, hit me up.
What is your job, exactly?
Oh! We had them in last week to chat. Are we not a fan of BEIS nuclear?
if i was working properly i would be a computational neuroscientist but instead i just crab around
generic idea is, aside from being boris-driven, fine as far as it goes but the specific epr at hinkley is v likely to be up shit creek £25bn price tag and delays aside; even considering building one at sizewell c is categorically insane. the epr is such an awful idea even the french gov arent considering building any more and are ahem building the epr2 instead, the chinese got their fill of it and are building no more and sticking to their own design, so the idea we would go from scratch to build a new one in the year of our lord 20-whenever is comical in cost per mw terms, speed and just... working
and certainly its unjustifiable to do much more at hinkley until the epr at flamanville takes account of whatever has happened at taishan, but the chinese regulators are saying nothing and all evidence suggests u have really severe - and known by the french nuclear regulators - fundamental flow defects in the reactor vessel but yeah its all jolly
problem is its nominally 7% of uk power so...
its very funny to me that the gov is suggesting we need nuclear to provide reliable energy then buy it from edf when multiple times over the last few months 28 of the 56 french reactors have been offline