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The Water Cooler (General Discussion)
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I don't see any reason to ban links here, all the same.
my 2cp, so not worth much, but communities can move and at this point probably should.
This is all I'd want, honestly. I just want to customize my visual experience to not see random embeds that either don't load or have stuff I'm not interested in. Just some off/on filter for a user setting would be perfect.
x aside, i would absolutely love the ability to disable rich embeds as a user preference.
I'm okay with like... youtube, so being able to turn each one on and off would be handy.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
will the current forum get archived or something when we move to the new one? Granted a lot of them are pithy and stupid but I've written a bunch of words here over the course of time and it feels weird to lose access to all of them
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Middle answer is due to several users wanting their data deleted (partially due to the current US politics), it's debatable how much of the forum would even be left by that point.
Long answer is a big ethical discussion you can read here:
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/252444/content-and-data-migration-the-social-legal-ethical-thread/p1
To add to this:
These are the steps that we, the CR community, are taking in regards to the forum.
In the end, this is not our forum, and PA can do anything they want with their data after this place shuts down.
Now, I'm not at all saying they will, as they have always been very good about these things, but it is their decision, and we have no influence over it as you basically gave away your rights to object when signing up.
Do I think they'll sell it to open AI to train a bot army? Nope, but there are no guarantees.
At least they've been a lot better then Reddit, who are just openly saying "Yes, we're selling access to all our posts, yes it's very lucrative, and yes, we hate it that openAI got it for free because we didn't understand what they were doing."
now if more than 1000 of you keep embedding twitter i'm kinda screwed
Good news! There's barely a thousand people left that post more than like once a month
Ignore everyone except Bizzaro Stormy
MHWilds ID: JF9LL8L3
It is an algorithmic social media platform run by an extremely powerful nazi whose goal is to harm the sort of people who frequent this forum. If people are distressed by the fact that audience capture has trapped their favorite person on the platform, they should stop capturing that person by removing themselves as an audience. Network effects are real, it is important to speed them up. Hell someone somewhere on Gab is saying a nice or newsworthy thing, I'm sure. I still don't want to see shit from Gab.
I understand that people are mourning the loss of a community that they relied upon and are reluctant to give up their certainly perfectly-pruned feeds that only show the good stuff that's still there, but this is active support of some of the worst shit that's coming and I don't want to be in a place where I see it.
But definitely at this point especially with the tracking people should be able to disable rich embeds of tweets.
What's the over/under on Elon suing us because we posted a screencap of a tweet of a sausage?
My understanding - others please chip in if they know better - is that glazing's effectiveness has been overstated and what effectiveness exists has been largely defeated by now. Keeping the scrapers away from the images in the first place (i.e., the login gate) is probably the best approach for now.
As someone who is part of one of those communities he wants to harm:
Fuck Him. I was there first.
Yeah. At first, it was funny to make Elon lose tons of money but at this point he's gonna be kept afloat by Trump so might as well do the only thing that will actually kill Twitter and that is break the network effect by freeing everyone from the circular social capture of it.
how is the image hosting working in the new forums? same as here?
do I need a flickr account or something similar to pull from?
The actual backend hosting solution is still up in the air to some degree I believe (but that's nothing a user would ever have to see or know about). The user facing side works exactly like it does here on Vanilla, basically.
In theory, any answer is just a few selects away. What are you interested in, when most people are active? That's likely just going to be unsurprising though, corresponding to a peak around the US timezones afternoon/evening
More like 'what would be a good distribution of mod active hours to ensure we have sufficient coverage to match posting habits,'. Like, as one of the NZ/Aus timezone members, I know we've felt like our active hours weren't well covered even when we did have supposedly numerous moderation. I just wonder whether there's metrics or data to see an hourly breakdown of activity, that could then inform a sort of idea of what a good distribution of moderation coverage might be.
E.g. if we had a dozen mods, would that be 7 across peak US times, 3 sort of Europe-ish, and 2 for Oceania/Asia (they wouldn't have to be based in those locales, just regularly active at those times).
I have bad news about all the other sites you probably use
It isn’t worldly and clever to use cynicism to excuse supporting Musk, it’s just capitulation.
There is, I hope at least, a general consensus here that excitedly posting the latest updates from stormfront or gab wouldn’t be tolerated even though other websites are also owned by bad people.
I understand that this is uncomfortable, I just don’t have much sympathy for that fact when the arguments in support of continuing to mainline a nazi’s idea of what news matters amounts to ‘no one’s perfect and I don’t feel like finding cute animal pictures elsewhere’.
what's up with bluesky? I paid for cohost until it went under =/
Is this literal Nazi shit?
either way it's keeping it afloat with user numbers
Not really trying to be clever, I'm pointing out the old truth "no ethical consumption under capitalism" and once you start going down this road, you quickly realize that indeed everything you probably use day to day or enjoy in some way upholds systems ideologies you probably detest and find problematic. So yes, if you want to draw your personal line at twitter that's fine, but expecting the rest of the internet to fall behind that line you're drawn for yourself is a bit much
Going deeper, would say we should stop using YouTube?
Because here's the CEO hanging out with Ben Shapiro and other alt right podcasters right before the election
Where's the Google CEO during the inauguration? Oh right next to the other assholes CEOs?
Better stop using um... Everything powered by google
And I mean, I certainly hope you don't use Amazon in any capacity, wether directly or through their hosting servers in AWS.
Current Amazon CEO is kissing the ring as we speak
https://x.com/ajassy/status/1881460165523996873?
Should I keep going or
From October:
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-could-post-a-significant-loss-in-2024/730370/
That’d probably be part of the reason Musk kept ownership private, because the financial reporting requirements of a publicly traded company would reveal that he’s run the fucking thing into the ground financially, because his prerogatives don’t actually align with making money (he’d like to, but remember he’s a dipshit whose failed at multiple businesses where other owners tossed him out on his ass before he could bring the company down and his only “success” has come from discovering how to scam the government and other people out of billions through Tesla and Spaxe X contracts (Tesla primarily makes its revenue from carbon credits)