My sister suggested that instead of busting up the concrete parking spaces that make up half of my back yard, I instead put a deck over it. It's a sensible suggestion, I wasn't sure how hard it would be to try to bust up concrete myself.
You would need a large maul, a shovel, and a lot of time. But it will probably screw up the grade and flood your basement.
Despite the fact that this is a tornado-prone area, there are very few places with basements.
But yeah, anchoring a deck to the existing concrete seems way better, since it will take weeks/months for us to sledge the slab probably.
"Sledge the slab" needs to become an idiom.
You want to go out behind the Wendy's and sledge the slab tonight?
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
My sister suggested that instead of busting up the concrete parking spaces that make up half of my back yard, I instead put a deck over it. It's a sensible suggestion, I wasn't sure how hard it would be to try to bust up concrete myself.
You would need a large maul, a shovel, and a lot of time. But it will probably screw up the grade and flood your basement.
Despite the fact that this is a tornado-prone area, there are very few places with basements.
But yeah, anchoring a deck to the existing concrete seems way better, since it will take weeks/months for us to sledge the slab probably.
"Sledge the slab" needs to become an idiom.
You want to go out behind the Wendy's and sledge the slab tonight?
The sign of a good idiom is it can also sound dirty in the right context.
It's when you dig down a couple feet, hit limestone, spend the next several hours hitting it with the cutting bar that is the worst about breaking shit
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I was taking pictures of the house today to show my sister, and Android automatically made a panorama of my back yard. I think it's pretty neat looking so here you go. But I realize now looking at it, I'd want the fence around both parking spaces (there are two. I only have one car and there's already a garage. Strikor has no car), so at least the one in the back will have to be removed, I think.
That set of double-doors you see is actually my back door.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
I was taking pictures of the house today to show my sister, and Android automatically made a panorama of my back yard. I think it's pretty neat looking so here you go. But I realize now looking at it, I'd want the fence around both parking spaces (there are two. I only have one car and there's already a garage. Strikor has no car), so at least the one in the back will have to be removed, I think.
That set of double-doors you see is actually my back door.
That's the back yard?!
Yeah, I can see why you might want to remove some concrete and have some yard.
Before you remove them however, I'd consider how it is likely to affect resale value. Is the garage 1 car or 2? if 2, you're definitely good. If 1 perhaps keeping it might be better. depends on how long you are going to live there I suppose.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I was taking pictures of the house today to show my sister, and Android automatically made a panorama of my back yard. I think it's pretty neat looking so here you go. But I realize now looking at it, I'd want the fence around both parking spaces (there are two. I only have one car and there's already a garage. Strikor has no car), so at least the one in the back will have to be removed, I think.
That set of double-doors you see is actually my back door.
That's the back yard?!
Yeah, I can see why you might want to remove some concrete and have some yard.
Before you remove them however, I'd consider how it is likely to affect resale value. Is the garage 1 car or 2? if 2, you're definitely good. If 1 perhaps keeping it might be better. depends on how long you are going to live there I suppose.
Sigh. It's a one car garage. Which means I guess we should keep the parking lot that's further back, the one next to the garage. But I don't see how to enclose the fence then.
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I don't get why making the backyard private would devalue the home. All the windows look out on that concrete jungle! You'd think most people would want a nice view...
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Maybe it's just the panorama view but it really looks like your house is on an island in the middle of a cul-de-sac.
My house is on the end of the row, but it's not a cul-de-sac, next to our back yard is a straight concrete alley. It's the panorama that makes it look curved since all the pictures were taken from the same position.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
I don't get why making the backyard private would devalue the home. All the windows look out on that concrete jungle! You'd think most people would want a nice view...
It's losing that parking that I would worry about devaluing it. It might work for you, but then not really for a family with a teenager say.
Fencing it might be nice though. not super usable as is.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Is it only a one-car garage? I thought it was 2, but maybe it's just supposed to be a 1 with a ton of extra room.
But yeah, we can't really put anything in the shed without putting fencing up, unless we plan to buy the largest watering can known to man (I am afraid to google that but I'm sure it is a thing!)
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Well there still is the front for parking a car, but I can see that wouldn't be ideal for a lot of people. I'm pretty sure the person on our shared wall has no parking except the front and the 1 car garage, and they currently have a car sitting out front on their side. It's only a two bedroom though, so other than entertaining people there shouldn't really be a need for more than those two spots.
Everyone else in the neighborhood has a fenced backyard, so I assume the folks at our place did this on purpose to add parking, but I hate my shed being bare to the world for any 12 year old punk with a carton of eggs and an attitude problem.
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Would it still devalue it if I put a fence in but left the concrete as-is (minus some drilled holes for fence supports)? Then if someone in the future wanted to destroy their privacy for parking, they totally could?
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Is it only a one-car garage? I thought it was 2, but maybe it's just supposed to be a 1 with a ton of extra room.
But yeah, we can't really put anything in the shed without putting fencing up, unless we plan to buy the largest watering can known to man (I am afraid to google that but I'm sure it is a thing!)
You're totally right, it is 2-car. Hallelujah. Fuck dat extra parking.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Would it still devalue it if I put a fence in but left the concrete as-is (minus some drilled holes for fence supports)? Then if someone in the future wanted to destroy their privacy for parking, they totally could?
Would it still devalue it if I put a fence in but left the concrete as-is (minus some drilled holes for fence supports)? Then if someone in the future wanted to destroy their privacy for parking, they totally could?
I'm not certain if it would devalue it or be a good idea. It would be an excellent question for your realtor.
Well there still is the front for parking a car, but I can see that wouldn't be ideal for a lot of people. I'm pretty sure the person on our shared wall has no parking except the front and the 1 car garage, and they currently have a car sitting out front on their side. It's only a two bedroom though, so other than entertaining people there shouldn't really be a need for more than those two spots.
Everyone else in the neighborhood has a fenced backyard, so I assume the folks at our place did this on purpose to add parking, but I hate my shed being bare to the world for any 12 year old punk with a carton of eggs and an attitude problem.
I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
We're in a weird position where we can move literally anywhere we want. Both our jobs are remote. So we are having a hard time deciding on a city, because we aren't attached to any one in particular.
@Cambiata you just missed some good deals for Labor Day at Lowe's
I'm sure there will be more for appliances in the future and it's not like you can really buy them before you get a place locked down, but the cool thing is they had free delivery, installation, and haul away.
Also, I looked at some of the refrigerators that had display model discounts and they were far more appealing than the others. Like $1000 difference on one huge Samsung.
Well, as nice as getting stuff cheap is, I have no place to store it until I have a house, really. There'll be other sales by the time we finally close.
One time my soon to be wife tried to buy a ceiling fan on deeply discounted sale for our house. That was about 8 years ago. We still don't have a house yet.
Hi5
I actually have a house now and still haven't installed it.
Luckily I talked her out of buying it.
I'll help install a fan!
I'd ask you to come teach me how to joist, but a.) we're scouting out new places to live, and b.) aren't you living up Duluth way?
Speaking of a.), how do people shop for places in other states? I'm finding it super hard to investigate what houses I should even bother looking into.
We're in a weird position where we can move literally anywhere we want. Both our jobs are remote. So we are having a hard time deciding on a city, because we aren't attached to any one in particular.
@Cambiata you just missed some good deals for Labor Day at Lowe's
I'm sure there will be more for appliances in the future and it's not like you can really buy them before you get a place locked down, but the cool thing is they had free delivery, installation, and haul away.
Also, I looked at some of the refrigerators that had display model discounts and they were far more appealing than the others. Like $1000 difference on one huge Samsung.
Well, as nice as getting stuff cheap is, I have no place to store it until I have a house, really. There'll be other sales by the time we finally close.
One time my soon to be wife tried to buy a ceiling fan on deeply discounted sale for our house. That was about 8 years ago. We still don't have a house yet.
Hi5
I actually have a house now and still haven't installed it.
Luckily I talked her out of buying it.
I'll help install a fan!
I'd ask you to come teach me how to joist, but a.) we're scouting out new places to live, and b.) aren't you living up Duluth way?
Speaking of a.), how do people shop for places in other states? I'm finding it super hard to investigate what houses I should even bother looking into.
1. I live in Maple Grove. 2. I know fuck all about joists, but I could lift a fan. 3. Moving to another state, you'd be best to find a local realty website and search there. That will show you the available properties listed on the local MLS. Get a list of properties you want to see where you want to move. Then plan a day or 2 to go see them.
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I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
I've never used it myself, but maybe reddit? I lurk in our local subreddit and I've seen stickied topics and good answers on the topic of where to live.
edit: if you're thinking more of which neighborhoods to consider, etc.
I've never used it myself, but maybe reddit? I lurk in our local subreddit and I've seen stickied topics and good answers on the topic of where to live.
edit: if you're thinking more of which neighborhoods to consider, etc.
Or ask people here. I'm sure you can find someone.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I know parking is a priority for some (and there's probably actual figures that your realtor can share with you) but there's a lot of value to be had in a private backyard. After years of urban dwellings I'd have a difficult time giving up the yard I've been rehabing behind our house. Just having a few hundred sq ft with some plants and hardscape makes our lil bungalow seem bigger and more functional.
I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
I'm a single bloke with two cars and two motorbikes. :P My priority was a double garage that opens into the back so that everything could be parked behind the fence, so if that's an option it could be good in terms of future desirability.
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I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
I'm a single bloke with two cars and two motorbikes. :P My priority was a double garage that opens into the back so that everything could be parked behind the fence, so if that's an option it could be good in terms of future desirability.
u have 2 mny cars, k
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edited September 2015
So after the cat-piss-house experience and browsing the (rather meager) currently-available housing stock, my wife has suggested something a bit left field rather than moving: a large reconfiguration of how we live in our house.
So we'd turn:
the Study into the Nursery
the Dining area into a comfy sitting/reading/socialising area
the Nursery into a Home-Theater/Study room
the Entry Hall into an entry/Dining area
and the Lounge into a sort of open-plan kids Playroom area
No major renovations, although there's one closet that might lose its doors and get reshelved.
Indeed, the only rooms whose major function isn't changed are the kitchen/laundry/bathroom/ensuite/master bedroom that we had done in the major renovation a few years back.
It's a bit of a strange way to configure the house - it's not really an obvious use of the spaces, but I'm cautiously optimistic that this might work. And be a whole lot cheaper than a major move.
I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
I'm a single bloke with two cars and two motorbikes. :P My priority was a double garage that opens into the back so that everything could be parked behind the fence, so if that's an option it could be good in terms of future desirability.
oh hey, the joys of home ownership. Currently helping a friend look for places as I did my selling and buying a year and a half ago. Super happy with my place now, it has everything I want - close to trails, somewhat wooded, nice yard, firepit, good kitchen, not built before the right angle was invented etc.
I will say I'm super-jealous of places you can get decent houses for under a hundred grand. Coastal New England is.... not cheap.
I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
I'm a single bloke with two cars and two motorbikes. :P My priority was a double garage that opens into the back so that everything could be parked behind the fence, so if that's an option it could be good in terms of future desirability.
We need to find you a nice low-mileage Elise...
One toy car is enough for now.. although....
@Blake T, my brother in law and I moved me into my new place today. I'm beat. But now the gas fire is on, my bed is ready and waiting for me and I'm feet up in my living room with a beer and all is well. Dis gon' be gud.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Guys, the story of Steve the idiot realtor has a new chapter!
Recap of previous chapters for those who didn't read those posts:
When I was first looking for a place I had a lot of trouble keeping a realtor working for me because I was looking to make a low buy, below 80k if possible. So for a short while I thought I would go without a realtor. I saw a cute condo and contacted the seller's realtor, Steve, to view it. It seemed pretty nice and had a few updates, so I decided to make an offer. Steve constantly lied to me throughout the process, gave me a contract to sign that had a lot of blank spaces, tried to bump my option fee up to about $100 more than is regular and tried to get me to pay earnest money at about 6% of the total cost. I assume he did these things knowing I was ignorant and wouldn't know there was a problem with them, but I have a friend who used to be a realtor who clued me in to a lot of things. Because the guy acted so suspicious and slimy, he showed me I did need a realtor. This is something Steve tried to prevent me from doing, by assuring me he was "on my side" and that he was working for me as well as the seller. He also expressed chagrin that I was letting my friend review the contract.
After I got a realtor, we made an offer, there were some counter offers, but ultimately my offer was verbally accepted: 2k less than list, seller covers home warranty, no repairs or updates required by seller. During all the negotiation, Steve kept assuring us he had higher offers for cash than what we were offering, and that they were only accepting ours because the seller liked our personal letter so much (what a crock!) Before they signed our contract, however, they actually got another offer, and dropped us like a rock.
And now, the saga continues!
I got an email from my realtor this morning. Steve contacted her saying that the previous contract was terminated unexpectedly, but they already did all the updates required by that seller, including laminating the stairs (having them pay us a carpet allowance and/or fix the carpet was one of our points in the negotiation that we eventually dropped). So now Steve wants to know if we would like to make another offer! Ha ha ha. If there's one thing that's icing on the cake of having a much nicer house than the condo he was offering, it's knowing that Steve didn't get his commission after all and he cost his seller money. I hope his seller wises up and dumps the rube before he costs him anymore.
Oh and as a side note: The realtor I got, who is a pleasant and honest person, if maybe a little inexperienced (She's only had her license for 4 years I believe), happily agreed to be my realtor even knowing I might buy a place as low as 60k. The place we are getting is double that. Honesty pays, kids!
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Well I've been at it since sometime before noon (albeit with a short lunch break) but I think I've resiliconed the bath what was leaking.
Think I may have cocked it up though and no way to test till it's dried so I may be doing the whole thing again tomorrow. Stripping the old stuff off (along with the mould and limescale) took forever and I think I've scratched the tub in the process. Hopefully not too badly as enamel tubs are spendy and I don't like plastic tubs.
Fingers crossed it holds up to the shower tomorrow. If I've got just a small section that isn't sound can I just squirt some more silicone in or do I need to strip it all out and start again?
Goddamnit would you just get back to us and let us know if everything's approves or not?! The not knowing if the bank is gonna let us buy the house is killing me!!
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edited September 2015
If I'm using a loan broker, when looking at the contract how do I tell which fees he's taking as my broker?
Edit: NVM, I found it.
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"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
That inspection was depressing. The roof is in horrible shape and needs to be replaced, there are a lot of water stains in numerous rooms, and he couldn't even check the attic ceiling for water damage or mold because the entire thing was covered in metal which could be innocent, be hiding damage, or be indicative of a former grow-op.
Well then so much for first impressions being promising! I don't mind having to fix some things ourselves, but this place was already at our upper limit and dropping another 10k on it isn't a very appealing option.
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Our realtor suggests we ask if the owner will fix the problems we saw and/or will work with us on the price. So we won't bail yet until we see what she'll offer.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Our realtor suggests we ask if the owner will fix the problems we saw and/or will work with us on the price. So we won't bail yet until we see what she'll offer.
Having the seller fix the problems is what you will want. If you are short on cash already after the closing, then a price drop really won't help.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Yeah, though the problem there is that maybe she does a really crummy job (it's hard to write "and make it good" into a contract) and then we're out of our option period and then lose out on the earnest money as well.
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You want to go out behind the Wendy's and sledge the slab tonight?
but they're listening to every word I say
The sign of a good idiom is it can also sound dirty in the right context.
Buncha jerks done put up a messa sticks on mah slab!
It's when you dig down a couple feet, hit limestone, spend the next several hours hitting it with the cutting bar that is the worst about breaking shit
That set of double-doors you see is actually my back door.
That's the back yard?!
Yeah, I can see why you might want to remove some concrete and have some yard.
Before you remove them however, I'd consider how it is likely to affect resale value. Is the garage 1 car or 2? if 2, you're definitely good. If 1 perhaps keeping it might be better. depends on how long you are going to live there I suppose.
but they're listening to every word I say
Sigh. It's a one car garage. Which means I guess we should keep the parking lot that's further back, the one next to the garage. But I don't see how to enclose the fence then.
My house is on the end of the row, but it's not a cul-de-sac, next to our back yard is a straight concrete alley. It's the panorama that makes it look curved since all the pictures were taken from the same position.
Fencing it might be nice though. not super usable as is.
but they're listening to every word I say
But yeah, we can't really put anything in the shed without putting fencing up, unless we plan to buy the largest watering can known to man (I am afraid to google that but I'm sure it is a thing!)
Everyone else in the neighborhood has a fenced backyard, so I assume the folks at our place did this on purpose to add parking, but I hate my shed being bare to the world for any 12 year old punk with a carton of eggs and an attitude problem.
You're totally right, it is 2-car. Hallelujah. Fuck dat extra parking.
I'm not certain if it would devalue it or be a good idea. It would be an excellent question for your realtor.
I suppose street parking isn't a problem where it doesn't snow.
but they're listening to every word I say
I'd ask you to come teach me how to joist, but a.) we're scouting out new places to live, and b.) aren't you living up Duluth way?
Speaking of a.), how do people shop for places in other states? I'm finding it super hard to investigate what houses I should even bother looking into.
1. I live in Maple Grove. 2. I know fuck all about joists, but I could lift a fan. 3. Moving to another state, you'd be best to find a local realty website and search there. That will show you the available properties listed on the local MLS. Get a list of properties you want to see where you want to move. Then plan a day or 2 to go see them.
but they're listening to every word I say
I just realized the garage is 2-car. Since there are only 2 bedrooms, if the next owners need more than that for regular parking, then I say they either have too many adults trying to live there or they have too many vehicles.
edit: if you're thinking more of which neighborhoods to consider, etc.
Or ask people here. I'm sure you can find someone.
but they're listening to every word I say
I'm a single bloke with two cars and two motorbikes. :P My priority was a double garage that opens into the back so that everything could be parked behind the fence, so if that's an option it could be good in terms of future desirability.
u have 2 mny cars, k
So we'd turn:
the Study into the Nursery
the Dining area into a comfy sitting/reading/socialising area
the Nursery into a Home-Theater/Study room
the Entry Hall into an entry/Dining area
and the Lounge into a sort of open-plan kids Playroom area
No major renovations, although there's one closet that might lose its doors and get reshelved.
Indeed, the only rooms whose major function isn't changed are the kitchen/laundry/bathroom/ensuite/master bedroom that we had done in the major renovation a few years back.
It's a bit of a strange way to configure the house - it's not really an obvious use of the spaces, but I'm cautiously optimistic that this might work. And be a whole lot cheaper than a major move.
We need to find you a nice low-mileage Elise...
I will say I'm super-jealous of places you can get decent houses for under a hundred grand. Coastal New England is.... not cheap.
One toy car is enough for now.. although....
@Blake T, my brother in law and I moved me into my new place today. I'm beat. But now the gas fire is on, my bed is ready and waiting for me and I'm feet up in my living room with a beer and all is well. Dis gon' be gud.
I'm a hero.
Satans..... hints.....
Recap of previous chapters for those who didn't read those posts:
After I got a realtor, we made an offer, there were some counter offers, but ultimately my offer was verbally accepted: 2k less than list, seller covers home warranty, no repairs or updates required by seller. During all the negotiation, Steve kept assuring us he had higher offers for cash than what we were offering, and that they were only accepting ours because the seller liked our personal letter so much (what a crock!) Before they signed our contract, however, they actually got another offer, and dropped us like a rock.
And now, the saga continues!
I got an email from my realtor this morning. Steve contacted her saying that the previous contract was terminated unexpectedly, but they already did all the updates required by that seller, including laminating the stairs (having them pay us a carpet allowance and/or fix the carpet was one of our points in the negotiation that we eventually dropped). So now Steve wants to know if we would like to make another offer! Ha ha ha. If there's one thing that's icing on the cake of having a much nicer house than the condo he was offering, it's knowing that Steve didn't get his commission after all and he cost his seller money. I hope his seller wises up and dumps the rube before he costs him anymore.
Oh and as a side note: The realtor I got, who is a pleasant and honest person, if maybe a little inexperienced (She's only had her license for 4 years I believe), happily agreed to be my realtor even knowing I might buy a place as low as 60k. The place we are getting is double that. Honesty pays, kids!
Think I may have cocked it up though and no way to test till it's dried so I may be doing the whole thing again tomorrow. Stripping the old stuff off (along with the mould and limescale) took forever and I think I've scratched the tub in the process. Hopefully not too badly as enamel tubs are spendy and I don't like plastic tubs.
Fingers crossed it holds up to the shower tomorrow. If I've got just a small section that isn't sound can I just squirt some more silicone in or do I need to strip it all out and start again?
Next time I've using masking tape as recommended.
Edit: NVM, I found it.
Well then so much for first impressions being promising! I don't mind having to fix some things ourselves, but this place was already at our upper limit and dropping another 10k on it isn't a very appealing option.
having to replace a roof and seeing water damage needs to be a seller problem, not a buyer problem.
Having the seller fix the problems is what you will want. If you are short on cash already after the closing, then a price drop really won't help.
but they're listening to every word I say
On the other hand, no HOA to deal with.
Damnit.