so will it be mechagodzilla reveal near end, Kong and Godzilla stop fighting for tag team time.
OR, is it Mechagodzilla in disguise as Godzilla for most of it and when he has Kong on the ropes real Godzilla shows up?
I kinda like the second idea more.
Yeah, I like the second option a lot
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I’m certain the score is going to have a track that does this, but I hate that trailer music so much I’m actually going to make a Godzilla vs King Kong theme remix.
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I guess with the reduced advertising time, they are going for the "heres things that happen" trailers before doing all of the "mood trailers" like with the other monsterverse.
S.H. MonsterArts has revealed their Godzilla vs Kong figures, and there's a spoiler with the Kong figure, specifically about the axe he has in the trailer
It's a fucking bone with what looks like a Godzilla fin embedded in it.
S.H. MonsterArts has revealed their Godzilla vs Kong figures, and there's a spoiler with the Kong figure, specifically about the axe he has in the trailer
It's a fucking bone with what looks like a Godzilla fin embedded in it.
First half of the the trailer: Fuck you for trying to imply this movie will have half the presence or mood of Godzilla 2014. You tried that with the KotM trailer and I ain't getting fooled again.
Second half of the trailer: This was a bad choice for the music, but I'm guessing it's more in line with what this movie actually is, which is watching a giant monkey fight an atomic dinosaur. Which looks awesome.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
My guesses are pretty obvious
either it's a Mechagodzilla in Godzilla disguise, which would be an amazing throwback, or Charles Dance is using the Ghidorah head to somehow drive Godzilla nuts and have him smash up everything looking for it
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
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either it's a Mechagodzilla in Godzilla disguise, which would be an amazing throwback, or Charles Dance is using the Ghidorah head to somehow drive Godzilla nuts and have him smash up everything looking for it
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
Show me the monster verse version of King Caesar you cowards
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either it's a Mechagodzilla in Godzilla disguise, which would be an amazing throwback, or Charles Dance is using the Ghidorah head to somehow drive Godzilla nuts and have him smash up everything looking for it
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
Show me the monster verse version of King Caesar you cowards
I will shout from the rooftops to make this happen, god damn it
either it's a Mechagodzilla in Godzilla disguise, which would be an amazing throwback, or Charles Dance is using the Ghidorah head to somehow drive Godzilla nuts and have him smash up everything looking for it
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
Kong appears to have the necessary bulk to stand up to Godzilla, the agility to dodge his attacks and he has the edge in intellect, as a tool user. (Seen in the trailer where he manages to slap together an axe that can absorb Godzilla's atomic breath)
Also the rights to Kong are easier to get than the rights to Godzilla.
This is Kong's fight to lose.
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It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
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either it's a Mechagodzilla in Godzilla disguise, which would be an amazing throwback, or Charles Dance is using the Ghidorah head to somehow drive Godzilla nuts and have him smash up everything looking for it
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
Show me the monster verse version of King Caesar you cowards
I will shout from the rooftops to make this happen, god damn it
Include the 10 minute non-sequitur song and dance number or I walk.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
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Wasn't there a whole thing Nintendo got out of because Kong was public domain?
Oh it's much better than that.
Universal sued Nintendo for damages for infringing their Kong copyright.
Nintendo showed the court that Universal had previously successfully argued against RKO that Kong and his story existed in the public domain, and thus were able to get 1.5 million dollars in damages and fees from Universal.
It is one of the most one sided legal beatdowns still taught in law school.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
Ah, that must be it. For some reason I thought the 1933 movie was the original Kong story.
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It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
Ah, that must be it. For some reason I thought the 1933 movie was the original Kong story.
Nope, the original story only even entered into the public domain because the rights holders didn't properly reapply for its copyright, because that was a thing that could happen back in the day.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
Ah, that must be it. For some reason I thought the 1933 movie was the original Kong story.
Nope, the original story only even entered into the public domain because the rights holders didn't properly reapply for its copyright, because that was a thing that could happen back in the day.
Stuff like George Romero's Night of the Living Dead fell immediately into the public domain because of antiquated copyright laws that weren't shored up until like the 1970s.
It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
So technically, King Kong VS Sherlock Holmes would be a cinch?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
Ah, that must be it. For some reason I thought the 1933 movie was the original Kong story.
Nope, the original story only even entered into the public domain because the rights holders didn't properly reapply for its copyright, because that was a thing that could happen back in the day.
Stuff like George Romero's Night of the Living Dead fell immediately into the public domain because of antiquated copyright laws that weren't shored up until like the 1970s.
Oh you mean normal copyright laws that aren't intense bullshit.
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It's easier to get Kong's rights in that Kong is in the public domain, yes.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
So technically, King Kong VS Sherlock Holmes would be a cinch?
Yep. In fact, the original "King Kong vs Godzilla" movie was originally planned as "King Kong vs Frankenstein" and would have featured King Kong battling a new Frankenstein's Monster made from the parts of various large animals. "Frankenstein" was public domain, so why not?
When the movie was retooled to feature Godzilla instead of a Frankenstein's Monster (don't worry, Toho eventually made a giant Frankenstein's Monster movie AND a sequel called "War of the Gargantuas"), King Kong was--for some reason--given a Frankensteinian affinity to electricity. In the final battle of the movie, Kong is struck by lightning and empowered by it, putting him on more equal footing with Godzilla.
To make things even weirder, Toho later retooled a proposed King Kong movie called "Operation Robinson Crusoe" into the Godzilla movie "Ebirah, Horror of the Deep" (don't worry, Toho would later make a movie where Kong fought a Mechanikong as well as creating a King Kong anime). It appears that the creators of "Ebirah, Horror of the Deep" pretty much just replaced all instances of "King Kong" in the script with Godzilla, resulting in Godzilla not only inheriting the lightning affinity Kong himself had gotten from Frankenstein's Monster, but also in Godzilla showing an unusual amount of interest in a human woman for the only time in the entire franchise.
To top this all off, in some versions of Godzilla movies released in various European countries "Frankenstein" was often inserted into the title, sometimes with the dub explaining that Godzilla's foe for the movie was created by an off-screen Dr. Frankenstein.
OH, WAIT. I forgot for a second that Toho's Frankenstein's Monster movie, "Frankenstein Conquers the World", introduced Baragon, a monster that would later appear in the Godzilla franchise, so shoehorning Dr. Frankenstein into the Godzilla canon is marginally less random than you'd think!
"Frankenstein vs Godzilla" was totally going to be a thing, once upon a time! As the sequel to King Kong vs Godzilla, no less!
It astounds me that, with as much useless Godzilla trivia as I know from old fan sites like Rodan's Roost and Toho Kingdom, I'm still finding out new crazy Godzilla factoids.
EDIT: Definitely go check out the "Unmade Films" section on that wiki.
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Part of the thing with the Kong vs Godzilla was that the rights were different in Japan (this would have been WELL before Universal made the argument about Kong being public domain) and that Godzilla wasn’t considered popular enough to be in the movie originally.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Part of the thing with the Kong vs Godzilla was that the rights were different in Japan (this would have been WELL before Universal made the argument about Kong being public domain) and that Godzilla wasn’t considered popular enough to be in the movie originally.
It's kinda funny they gave Kong top billing and now like almost 60 years later Godzilla gets that privilege.
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Fun fact: Mecha-Kong predates Mecha-Godzilla!
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Part of the thing with the Kong vs Godzilla was that the rights were different in Japan (this would have been WELL before Universal made the argument about Kong being public domain) and that Godzilla wasn’t considered popular enough to be in the movie originally.
Yep. Godzilla even gets second-billing to Mothra in the next one. Godzilla's name isn't even the title for a good chunk of the early Godzilla movies.
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It's driving me crazy trying to remember what movie I saw this attached to.
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Another fun fact: When Toho couldn't get Universal to agree to letting them use King Kong in a new versus movie against Godzilla, they briefly planned a "Godzilla vs Mechanikong" movie instead. Universal got wind of this and told Toho to cut it out.
"Godzilla vs Mechanikong" also included the concept of a Fantastic Voyage into Godzilla's body, so when Mechanikong became a non-option Toho briefly toyed with a pitch called "Micro-Universe In Godzilla" before switching over to "Godzilla vs Mothra: The Battle for Earth", which itself started as "Godzilla vs Gigamoth". The Gigamoth concept became Battra (short for "Battle Mothra").
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I really hope that's the case. That was one of my favorites as a kid.
Kind of looks like a Super-X back there?
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First half of the the trailer: Fuck you for trying to imply this movie will have half the presence or mood of Godzilla 2014. You tried that with the KotM trailer and I ain't getting fooled again.
Second half of the trailer: This was a bad choice for the music, but I'm guessing it's more in line with what this movie actually is, which is watching a giant monkey fight an atomic dinosaur. Which looks awesome.
They've only got this one movie left in the licensing agreement, far as I'm aware, so they have to resolve Charles Dance, but I gotta tell ya, I would love to see the former scenario, as someone who adores the original Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla
I'm pulling for a late reveal of space aliens, but frankly I doubt it at this point, which bums me out
Also obviously Godzilla and Kong will fight to a draw and then team up to fight the real threat in the third act, that's not even a spoiler, that's just how movies work, that's how it'll be
But for the record Godzilla would win that fight and anyone who argues otherwise is a fool
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Kong appears to have the necessary bulk to stand up to Godzilla, the agility to dodge his attacks and he has the edge in intellect, as a tool user. (Seen in the trailer where he manages to slap together an axe that can absorb Godzilla's atomic breath)
Also the rights to Kong are easier to get than the rights to Godzilla.
This is Kong's fight to lose.
Include the 10 minute non-sequitur song and dance number or I walk.
IIRC, King Kong, the 1933 movie is public domain but King Kong, the character, is not.
It's like how there's a couple of superman animated movies in the public domain, even though Warner Bros. own the character's copyright.
The original story that King Kong is from is in the public domain.
Oh it's much better than that.
Universal sued Nintendo for damages for infringing their Kong copyright.
Nintendo showed the court that Universal had previously successfully argued against RKO that Kong and his story existed in the public domain, and thus were able to get 1.5 million dollars in damages and fees from Universal.
It is one of the most one sided legal beatdowns still taught in law school.
Ah, that must be it. For some reason I thought the 1933 movie was the original Kong story.
Nope, the original story only even entered into the public domain because the rights holders didn't properly reapply for its copyright, because that was a thing that could happen back in the day.
Stuff like George Romero's Night of the Living Dead fell immediately into the public domain because of antiquated copyright laws that weren't shored up until like the 1970s.
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So technically, King Kong VS Sherlock Holmes would be a cinch?
Yup.
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Oh you mean normal copyright laws that aren't intense bullshit.
Yep. In fact, the original "King Kong vs Godzilla" movie was originally planned as "King Kong vs Frankenstein" and would have featured King Kong battling a new Frankenstein's Monster made from the parts of various large animals. "Frankenstein" was public domain, so why not?
When the movie was retooled to feature Godzilla instead of a Frankenstein's Monster (don't worry, Toho eventually made a giant Frankenstein's Monster movie AND a sequel called "War of the Gargantuas"), King Kong was--for some reason--given a Frankensteinian affinity to electricity. In the final battle of the movie, Kong is struck by lightning and empowered by it, putting him on more equal footing with Godzilla.
To make things even weirder, Toho later retooled a proposed King Kong movie called "Operation Robinson Crusoe" into the Godzilla movie "Ebirah, Horror of the Deep" (don't worry, Toho would later make a movie where Kong fought a Mechanikong as well as creating a King Kong anime). It appears that the creators of "Ebirah, Horror of the Deep" pretty much just replaced all instances of "King Kong" in the script with Godzilla, resulting in Godzilla not only inheriting the lightning affinity Kong himself had gotten from Frankenstein's Monster, but also in Godzilla showing an unusual amount of interest in a human woman for the only time in the entire franchise.
To top this all off, in some versions of Godzilla movies released in various European countries "Frankenstein" was often inserted into the title, sometimes with the dub explaining that Godzilla's foe for the movie was created by an off-screen Dr. Frankenstein.
OH, WAIT. I forgot for a second that Toho's Frankenstein's Monster movie, "Frankenstein Conquers the World", introduced Baragon, a monster that would later appear in the Godzilla franchise, so shoehorning Dr. Frankenstein into the Godzilla canon is marginally less random than you'd think!
"Frankenstein vs Godzilla" was totally going to be a thing, once upon a time! As the sequel to King Kong vs Godzilla, no less!
It astounds me that, with as much useless Godzilla trivia as I know from old fan sites like Rodan's Roost and Toho Kingdom, I'm still finding out new crazy Godzilla factoids.
EDIT: Definitely go check out the "Unmade Films" section on that wiki.
Why? Because how else will you know what was planned for the plot of "Batman Meets Godzilla"?
It's kinda funny they gave Kong top billing and now like almost 60 years later Godzilla gets that privilege.
Yep. Godzilla even gets second-billing to Mothra in the next one. Godzilla's name isn't even the title for a good chunk of the early Godzilla movies.
It's driving me crazy trying to remember what movie I saw this attached to.
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Another fun fact: When Toho couldn't get Universal to agree to letting them use King Kong in a new versus movie against Godzilla, they briefly planned a "Godzilla vs Mechanikong" movie instead. Universal got wind of this and told Toho to cut it out.
"Godzilla vs Mechanikong" also included the concept of a Fantastic Voyage into Godzilla's body, so when Mechanikong became a non-option Toho briefly toyed with a pitch called "Micro-Universe In Godzilla" before switching over to "Godzilla vs Mothra: The Battle for Earth", which itself started as "Godzilla vs Gigamoth". The Gigamoth concept became Battra (short for "Battle Mothra").