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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    lots of literature is incredibly overrated

    This may be so, but it's a judgement I feel only people who've read the book can make.

    what about if i give it a solid try for like an hour?

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    EriktheVikingGamerEriktheVikingGamer Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Funny story about 50 shades. My mom asked me for a torrent file so she could download it and put it on her ipod.

    Turns out I accidentally sent her the porn parody, and she loaded it and listened to it for 45 minutes before having me listen to it because she was pretty sure that wasn't correct.

    how do you make a porn parody of something that is, itself, a porn parody?

    By making it an intentional porn parody?

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    1984 is so good. So is To Kill a Mockingbird

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    I think War and Peace has garnered enough critical praise over the years to suggest there's more purpose to slogging through it than reading it to seem smart. I mean, it's one of the books on my shelf of unread books, so I haven't got round to it yet, but I will.

    I'm surprised Moby Dick isn't on that list.
    Moby Dick, Tom Sawyer, Huck Fin and Treasure Island are required reading, pretty much everywhere.

    tom sawyer and huck finn seem like very north american things to me

    i mean i've heard of them but they don't have the same cultural appeal here as Moby Dick

    Mark Twain is mainstay of US canon

    Huck Finn, Too Kill a Mockingbird and The Great Gatbsy

    Pretty much every kid in the US has read them

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Six wrote: »
    1984 is so good. So is To Kill a Mockingbird

    TKAM is probably one of my favorite books from high school.

    One of the very few that could keep me reading past the first few chapters because it wasn't so god fucking awful.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    I've read the first and the last ones on that list.
    Rural High School education?

    Probably something like that.

    They had us read The Grapes of Wrath, Anthem, The Fountainhead, Julius Caesar, Hatchet, etc.

    But yeah...

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    i've seen the pride and prejudice movie with zombies in it

    does that count?

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I'm 3/20 on that list, but then I read sci-fi/fantasy almost exclusively so a list like that's going to miss most of the time anyway.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    6/20 I'm an illiterate bastard

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    I've read the first and the last ones on that list.
    Rural High School education?

    Probably something like that.

    They had us read The Grapes of Wrath, Anthem, The Fountainhead, Julius Caesar, Hatchet, etc.

    But yeah...

    Hatchet is dope

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    For some reason Romeo and Juliet was banned in my school district.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    do kids read Huck Finn anymore?

    The use of the n word was pretty iffy even in my day. We read it uncensored but had long conversations about its use

    today i don't know if you could do it

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    ZephiranZephiran Registered User regular
    Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.

    I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    I need to slam through 1984 real quick some day

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    For some reason Romeo and Juliet was banned in my school district.

    teen suicide

    they obviously thought it was too "real" for you

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Aegis wrote: »
    I'm 3/20 on that list, but then I read sci-fi/fantasy almost exclusively so a list like that's going to miss most of the time anyway.

    This is why I was always bummed by summer reading.

    It was the same garbage reading we were doing in class so it didn't exactly motivate me.

    So I just didn't do it and took that 25% hit on my grade the first quarter of English every year after 6th grade.

    Give me something like Childhood's End or any of the modern translated Arthurian novels and I'm yours.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    I need to slam through 1984 real quick some day

    Its really short you could put it away in an afternoon

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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    From that list, we (early 00s Australian high schoolers) had Gatsby on our high school English list, and Alice in Wonderland was an English Literature option, and none of the others in that BBC list made an appearance

    I think the texts I chose to write my year 12 exam papers on were Gattaca and The Wife of Martin Guerre

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I did read King Lear three times due to a quirk of school semesters.

    Also Waiting for Godot twice, but that's because it was probably my favourite high school reading book.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    I need to slam through 1984 real quick some day

    Just open up Twitter

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    I think reading books is a thing lots of schools teach kids to loathe doing, albeit unintentionally. Partly this is down to having to teach a book written maybe a hundred years ago to a class of twenty five kids whose reading ability ranges from high to dyslexic to thick as mince. The idiom is alien, the prose may well seem mannered and archaic, the lives of those depicted utterly divorced from the modern world, etc.

    Added to this the fact that they're being forced to read, rather than reading for pleasure, something they may never do after being forced in the first place. It's often a terrible environment and situation from which a love of reading cannot be born.

    But if they do find a love of reading they may well go back and re-read some of those books they were forced to read at gunpoint in school and find a wide array of pleasures. P&P is something I bounced off hard and never got more than a chapter or two in while I was at school. Reading it ten years after was an experience of immense pleasure.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    For some reason Romeo and Juliet was banned in my school district.

    teen suicide

    they obviously thought it was too "real" for you

    the movie had a butt in in

    this i renumber from class

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I've read 9, i don't have a ton of interest in Dickens or Russian lit. So yeah, I'm good with 9.

    Whippy wrote: »
    nope nope nope nope abort abort talk about anime
    I like to ART
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    zepherin wrote: »
    I've read the first and the last ones on that list.
    Rural High School education?

    Probably something like that.

    They had us read The Grapes of Wrath, Anthem, The Fountainhead, Julius Caesar, Hatchet, etc.

    But yeah...

    This is the sort of thing I'm talking about. Kids may well start tossing innocent books on fires if schools try this. Or become libertarians.

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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    The version of Romeo and Juliet we watched in Year 10 was definitely the one with boobs in it

    My youth...

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    I never did read Romeo and Juliet due to the same semester quirk that caused me to read King Lear three times.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
    Currently DMing: None :(
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    I think reading books is a thing lots of schools teach kids to loathe doing, albeit unintentionally. Partly this is down to having to teach a book written maybe a hundred years ago to a class of twenty five kids whose reading ability ranges from high to dyslexic to thick as mince. The idiom is alien, the prose may well seem mannered and archaic, the lives of those depicted utterly divorced from the modern world, etc.

    Added to this the fact that they're being forced to read, rather than reading for pleasure, something they may never do after being forced in the first place. It's often a terrible environment and situation from which a love of reading cannot be born.

    But if they do find a love of reading they may well go back and re-read some of those books they were forced to read at gunpoint in school and find a wide array of pleasures. P&P is something I bounced off hard and never got more than a chapter or two in while I was at school. Reading it ten years after was an experience of immense pleasure.

    It's really unfortunate.

    I think we need to readdress no-child-left-behind and how we teach english lit in school. Teaching to take the test was a huge part of my high school English experience too. We were reading books as a class then being assigned regents papers (thesis, 2 supporting arguments and tying two literary ideas between two books, conclusion).

    I could do that really well but it didn't really improve my reading or writing, just that I could pass the test for NYS to get my high school diploma. It did prepare me to write reports in college though so that's good I guess.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    We don't kill spiders because we're afraid of them biting us. We kill spiders because their very existence is repulsive and upsetting, and seeing one in the corner or moving eerily across the floor, or even knowing one's in the room, causes some atavistic organ of the brain to scream in horror until the spider is crushed.

    Evil Multifarious on
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    :( Spiders are cute.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Sony is doing a huge dealio

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    bloodyroarxx on
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    simonwolfsimonwolf i can feel a difference today, a differenceRegistered User regular
    here's the grapes 🍇

    and here's the wrath 🔨

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    simonwolf wrote: »
    The version of Romeo and Juliet we watched in Year 10 was definitely the one with boobs in it

    My youth...

    this explains why you're so damaged now

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular

    for most of its history the novel was considered a trash art form anyways

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    :( Spiders are cute.

    Babies have a fear reaction to snakes and spiders before being socialized

    You're a deviant and you will be expunged

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    I don't know how to make kids read more, or how to get them to enjoy classic literature and grow up to be discerning readers rather than, say, people who buy Lee Child novels*. It's one of those start a fire rather than fill a bucket conundrums. I didn't enjoy reading for classes but read voraciously from the local library and saved up paper round money to buy more books. Having parents who had books on shelves in the house helped, which is something I know lots of kids don't have. Having an older sibling who had books helped, especially when I was old enough to read them myself. Having a decent library and a parent willing to regularly take me to it helped. Being smart helped. I dunno.

    I've tried to give my niece and nephew books and comics that I think are well-written and fun and that might spark a love of reading. I guess I'll only actually know if I helped ten years from now if they're still reading.

    *Never read one, do not @ me.

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Seriously we’re all nerds and 1984 is some cool dystopian shit. Plus it’s so short is basically a pamphlet. Add on the context of the world today? 1984 is awesome.

    I’m with Archer on Animal Farm, though.
    IT SUCKS

    Six on
    can you feel the struggle within?
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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Omg Clea DuVall <3

    fuck gendered marketing
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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    I’ve worked hard to overcome my fear of spiders, and to see you all so casually kill them with no remorse is so...so barbaric! You’ll never reach galaxy brain this way!

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    I went and bought a suit. This is definitely going to be a non-reimbursed business expense on my taxes.

    It’s a pretty slick suit, though

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    I think it's in Orbitsville (SF novel about people finding a Dyson Sphere) that Bob Shaw posits the theory that the reason everyone hates spiders is that they're alien to this world and our brains unconsciously recognise this and reject utterly their presence in our lives.

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