The version of Romeo and Juliet we watched in Year 10 was definitely the one with boobs in it
My youth...
this explains why you're so damaged now
listen I feel like my story about how my parents let me borrow Alien from the video store even though I didn't remember the word "Alien" as a four year old so I just made my hands into a facehugger and put it over my face to express my desire to watch that movie says more about why I am the damaged pile of macadamia-fuelled garbage I am today
I posit that there's absolutely zero things wrong with not teaching teenagers classic literature.
Keep that for college courses for someone who's interested in it.
Nothing will be lost if we don't have 14 year olds read Romeo and Juliet or Gatsby.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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I also apparently said "poor shark" as my initial reaction to seeing Jaws (also around the age of four), which was also likely a worrying sign of things to come
The version of Romeo and Juliet we watched in Year 10 was definitely the one with boobs in it
My youth...
this explains why you're so damaged now
listen I feel like my story about how my parents let me borrow Alien from the video store even though I didn't remember the word "Alien" as a four year old so I just made my hands into a facehugger and put it over my face to express my desire to watch that movie says more about why I am the damaged pile of macadamia-fuelled garbage I am today
I also apparently said "poor shark" as my initial reaction to seeing Jaws (also around the age of four), which was also likely a worrying sign of things to come
The shark preview before Solo made me sad. He is just trying to be friendly but he doesn't have any hands!
[*] War And Peace - Leo Tolstoy
[*] Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
[*] David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
[*] Crime And Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
[*] Bleak House - Charles Dickens
[*] Harry Potter (series) - JK Rowling
[*] Fifty Shades trilogy - EL James
[*] The Catcher In The Rye - JD Salinger
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I posit that exposing kids to classic literature is one of the most valuable things a school can do, even if it's often done badly. Simply letting kids read nothing but what they want will be, for most kids, the intellectual equivalent of letting them choose what they eat for dinner everyday, which, if they had their way, would be crisps and fizzy pop.
Since lots of kids don't go to university not having any classical literature in mandatory education would mean they had no knowledge of it at all. And there are kids that do gain a love of books from school, and at the very least gain some understanding of cultural building blocks that have gone into the world. The moral satire of Dickens is an excellent way into understanding Victorian Britain, for instance.
I posit that there's absolutely zero things wrong with not teaching teenagers classic literature.
Keep that for college courses for someone who's interested in it.
Nothing will be lost if we don't have 14 year olds read Romeo and Juliet or Gatsby.
I disagree strongly. Teaching art and literature and culture is important for rounded development.
You can teach literature without forcing classic literature. You can use modern works where context makes it easier to teach the concepts of good writing and make it more accessible to a young audience.
I got way more out of Gatsby at 29 than I did at 14 or whatever.
I think War and Peace has garnered enough critical praise over the years to suggest there's more purpose to slogging through it than reading it to seem smart. I mean, it's one of the books on my shelf of unread books, so I haven't got round to it yet, but I will.
I'm surprised Moby Dick isn't on that list.
Moby Dick, Tom Sawyer, Huck Fin and Treasure Island are required reading, pretty much everywhere.
tom sawyer and huck finn seem like very north american things to me
i mean i've heard of them but they don't have the same cultural appeal here as Moby Dick
I mean Huck Finn is widely regarded as one of the greatest pieces of US literature.
I mean it's usually Moby Dick, Huck Finn, Catcher in the Rye, Great Gatsby and Grapes of Wrath as the must reads from the US.
Grapes of Wrath by the way, so boring and dry.
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I think War and Peace has garnered enough critical praise over the years to suggest there's more purpose to slogging through it than reading it to seem smart. I mean, it's one of the books on my shelf of unread books, so I haven't got round to it yet, but I will.
I'm surprised Moby Dick isn't on that list.
Moby Dick, Tom Sawyer, Huck Fin and Treasure Island are required reading, pretty much everywhere.
tom sawyer and huck finn seem like very north american things to me
i mean i've heard of them but they don't have the same cultural appeal here as Moby Dick
I mean Huck Finn is widely regarded as one of the greatest pieces of US literature.
I mean it's usually Moby Dick, Huck Finn, Catcher in the Rye, Great Gatsby and Grapes of Wrath as the must reads from the US.
Grapes of Wrath by the way, so boring and dry.
Spoiler alert the guy named JC in the Grapes of Wrath is gasp a Jesus stand-in!
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I posit that there's absolutely zero things wrong with not teaching teenagers classic literature.
Keep that for college courses for someone who's interested in it.
Nothing will be lost if we don't have 14 year olds read Romeo and Juliet or Gatsby.
I disagree strongly. Teaching art and literature and culture is important for rounded development.
Most of them aren't doing the reading to begin with, so, like I said, nothing will be lost.
I'll meet you halfway if we get rid of just Gatsby, how's that?
Gatsby is excellent, topical, and short
Why get rid of it over, say, Canterbury Tales or The Odyssey?
Topical to what, exactly? The struggles of the upper socialites of the 1920s? You could theoretically work it into a combo lesson plan with The Great Depression but lol @ that ever happening.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I think we need to teach literature and it needs to start early, but "the classics" are a burdensome thing and probably not a great idea to get kids interested in reading!
A lot of people I know love reading and books, and their language skills developed enormously because of that. And it wasn't because they read Dostoyevsky when they were 16. It's because they got started reading goofy genre stuff and YA fiction, stuff that's fun and exciting and interesting. Let them do the classics if they're showing a great interest or for extra credit or something.
1984 is a great book that's very interesting but it's kind of old-fashioned and stuffy, for a kid. And that's one of the safest bets to actually get people to read it on that list.
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I was never given A Wizard of Earthsea as a high school reading so clearly the current system is a sham
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
I posit that there's absolutely zero things wrong with not teaching teenagers classic literature.
Keep that for college courses for someone who's interested in it.
Nothing will be lost if we don't have 14 year olds read Romeo and Juliet or Gatsby.
I disagree strongly. Teaching art and literature and culture is important for rounded development.
Most of them aren't doing the reading to begin with, so, like I said, nothing will be lost.
I'll meet you halfway if we get rid of just Gatsby, how's that?
Gatsby is excellent, topical, and short
Why get rid of it over, say, Canterbury Tales or The Odyssey?
Topical to what, exactly? The struggles of the upper socialites of the 1920s? You could theoretically work it into a combo lesson plan with The Great Depression but lol @ that ever happening.
Man it is 6:30 in the goddamn morning, don’t make me come up with an articulate defense of Gatsby’s exploration of the moral emptiness and ennui of the decadent upper class
I posit that exposing kids to classic literature is one of the most valuable things a school can do, even if it's often done badly. Simply letting kids read nothing but what they want will be, for most kids, the intellectual equivalent of letting them choose what they eat for dinner everyday, which, if they had their way, would be crisps and fizzy pop.
Since lots of kids don't go to university not having any classical literature in mandatory education would mean they had no knowledge of it at all. And there are kids that do gain a love of books from school, and at the very least gain some understanding of cultural building blocks that have gone into the world. The moral satire of Dickens is an excellent way into understanding Victorian Britain, for instance.
In that Victorian Britain, like a Dickens novel, is painfully boring and everyone is happy when it's over
If 1984 was written today, it'd get stretched out to atleast 5 novel length books, and turned into a young adult film series starring kids with douchebag haircuts
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So people lie all the damn time about everything. Here are the top twenty books people claim to have read but haven't because they're filthy liars.
Alice's Adventures In Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
1984 - George Orwell
The Lord Of The Rings trilogy - JRR Tolkien
War And Peace - Leo Tolstoy
Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
The Adventures Of Sherlock Holmes - Arthur Conan Doyle
To Kill A Mockingbird - Harper Lee
David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
Crime And Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Pride And Prejudice - Jane Austen
Bleak House - Charles Dickens
Harry Potter (series) - JK Rowling
Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
The Diary Of Anne Frank - Anne Frank
Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
Fifty Shades trilogy - EL James
And Then There Were None - Agatha Christie
The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald
Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
The Catcher In The Rye - JD Salinger
Do you lie about what you've read, you disgusting liar? Probably.
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Allegedly a voice of reason.
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Wait a minute, I may have lied. I'm suddenly very unsure if I've read any of the books by Dickens on the list.
Also Ulysses isn't on the list? Maybe people don't chance their arm on that in case someone listening has read it and poses a question. If you haven't read Oliver Twist you can maybe bluff your way out of the conversation because you know the story. But Ulysses? Hoo boy no you probably can't.
Seriously we’re all nerds and 1984 is some cool dystopian shit. Plus it’s so short is basically a pamphlet. Add on the context of the world today? 1984 is awesome.
I tried to read moby dick on my own, got like ten pages in and gave up because holy shit that is boring. I assume the Victorian shit and the Russian shit is the same.
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listen I feel like my story about how my parents let me borrow Alien from the video store even though I didn't remember the word "Alien" as a four year old so I just made my hands into a facehugger and put it over my face to express my desire to watch that movie says more about why I am the damaged pile of macadamia-fuelled garbage I am today
also that's Dr Damaged to you
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The animals are quite content to let Scottish and Welsh animals remain in bondage
Maybe I need to read it again.
Luxembourg does fries right
Keep that for college courses for someone who's interested in it.
Nothing will be lost if we don't have 14 year olds read Romeo and Juliet or Gatsby.
Dr Damaged sounds like a bond villian
Nip over to Bruges to get some decent fries, will only be a three hour car trip
The shark preview before Solo made me sad. He is just trying to be friendly but he doesn't have any hands!
I disagree strongly. Teaching art and literature and culture is important for rounded development.
That doesn’t look like anything to me
Since lots of kids don't go to university not having any classical literature in mandatory education would mean they had no knowledge of it at all. And there are kids that do gain a love of books from school, and at the very least gain some understanding of cultural building blocks that have gone into the world. The moral satire of Dickens is an excellent way into understanding Victorian Britain, for instance.
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You can teach literature without forcing classic literature. You can use modern works where context makes it easier to teach the concepts of good writing and make it more accessible to a young audience.
I got way more out of Gatsby at 29 than I did at 14 or whatever.
Most of them aren't doing the reading to begin with, so, like I said, nothing will be lost.
I'll meet you halfway if we get rid of just Gatsby, how's that?
I really need to get back in the habit of reading.
I mean it's usually Moby Dick, Huck Finn, Catcher in the Rye, Great Gatsby and Grapes of Wrath as the must reads from the US.
Grapes of Wrath by the way, so boring and dry.
Gatsby is excellent, topical, and short
Why get rid of it over, say, Canterbury Tales or The Odyssey?
As much as it is anything else, reading is a habit.
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Spoiler alert the guy named JC in the Grapes of Wrath is gasp a Jesus stand-in!
That’s the Dust Bowl for you
Topical to what, exactly? The struggles of the upper socialites of the 1920s? You could theoretically work it into a combo lesson plan with The Great Depression but lol @ that ever happening.
I think we need to teach literature and it needs to start early, but "the classics" are a burdensome thing and probably not a great idea to get kids interested in reading!
A lot of people I know love reading and books, and their language skills developed enormously because of that. And it wasn't because they read Dostoyevsky when they were 16. It's because they got started reading goofy genre stuff and YA fiction, stuff that's fun and exciting and interesting. Let them do the classics if they're showing a great interest or for extra credit or something.
1984 is a great book that's very interesting but it's kind of old-fashioned and stuffy, for a kid. And that's one of the safest bets to actually get people to read it on that list.
Man it is 6:30 in the goddamn morning, don’t make me come up with an articulate defense of Gatsby’s exploration of the moral emptiness and ennui of the decadent upper class
almost every one of them had space marines in it which makes me sound less great... ladies... :winky:
In that Victorian Britain, like a Dickens novel, is painfully boring and everyone is happy when it's over
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chances are they're bluffing too