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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I messed around with some Ozrhov anti-Golos cards last night:

    -Revenge of the Ravens does a great job slowing down the zombie horde. Especially if you can get multiple.
    -Ethereal Absolution also great, but slow. Golos usually has 6 mana several turns before you do. It really sucks to get stolen, though.
    -Hushbringer was good for a one-off lol to counter the golos ability, and potentially would shut down agent of treachery but it was so easy to kill
    -Ill gotten Inheritance was bad, obviously, but even worse that it got stolen lol.
    -ashiok is neat but honestly expensive for what they do.
    -The Bolos Statue 6 drop had a funny interaction with Golos's ability, but eh

    Since Golos can run answers to everything, it's really hard to counterbuild. An essentially 1 card combo is just too strong to deal with. I liked what revenge of the ravens did for my self preservation, but it got me no closer to winning. Any win condition i dropped was eventually stolen by agent. Curious about trying to either an Esper build or Dimir build. I actually have three copies of that enchantment copy spell, that along with fae of wishes may help quite a bit. I can run more Ashioks in that package.

    Alternatively, I can try incorporating Revenge of the Ravens in an Esper Stax base?

    So far, it feels like i am putting myself at a massive disadvantage by not putting in field/golos, so i won't be spending any rare wildcards anywhere but Golos/Field for the time being.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Hushbringer should have blocked all ETBs, not just creatures. If Yarok can double them all, HushyB should be able to shut them down!

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Hushbringer should have blocked all ETBs, not just creatures. If Yarok can double them all, HushyB should be able to shut them down!

    That would have made a very good fields of the dead answer

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  • BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Hushbringer should have blocked all ETBs, not just creatures. If Yarok can double them all, HushyB should be able to shut them down!

    That would have made a very good fields of the dead answer

    It would also hit Lotus Vale, scry lands, gain lands, Guild Globe/Golden Egg, Prison Realm/Conclave Tribunal, Guild Summit, Oath of Kaya, The Great Henge, etc.

    And that's just in standard.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Hushbringer should have blocked all ETBs, not just creatures. If Yarok can double them all, HushyB should be able to shut them down!

    That would have made a very good fields of the dead answer

    Probably end up being too powerful... it would kill O-rings, Grazers, Goose and Golden Eggs, Oath of Kaya, all those auto-equipments... you could even pack your own ETB permanents and bounce Hushbringer with Teferi when you wanted to use them.

  • FiskebentFiskebent Registered User regular
    There are still some cards that can deal with Field of the Dead. Assassin's Trophy, Agent of Treachery, Rubble Reading and Tectonic Rift springs to mind.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    I would argue that Agent comes out too late, Rubble Reading and Tectonic Rift are unplayable, so it only leaves Trophy.

    I imagine the trophy sequence goes: Trophy -> Op grabs a basic -> Op gets zombies off of their other fields.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Agent doesn't come out too late when you're playing ramp cards like Growth Spiral, Circuitous Route, and Golos.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited October 8
    Yea trophy is a great card in general, but a field deck will always have more fields and way more ability to hit fields than you will have to be getting trophies.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Agent doesn't come out too late when you're playing ramp cards like Growth Spiral, Circuitous Route, and Golos.

    So the answer here is to counter Golos/Field, play Golos/Field?

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Agent doesn't come out too late when you're playing ramp cards like Growth Spiral, Circuitous Route, and Golos.

    So the answer here is to counter Golos/Field, play Golos/Field?

    Yes.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    It's easy to beat CawBlade with CawBlade

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    tbf a lot of pros consider CawBlade Standard a good format because the mirror match had a high skill ceiling.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    yeah, I don't blame them

    I'm a filthy casual though, and I like formats where my janky decks at least have a chance

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  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    I would argue that Agent comes out too late, Rubble Reading and Tectonic Rift are unplayable, so it only leaves Trophy.

    I imagine the trophy sequence goes: Trophy -> Op grabs a basic -> Op gets zombies off of their other fields.

    Does he though? I've seen a bunch of reanimator decks that can get him out turn 4 or 5.

    While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I would argue that Agent comes out too late, Rubble Reading and Tectonic Rift are unplayable, so it only leaves Trophy.

    I imagine the trophy sequence goes: Trophy -> Op grabs a basic -> Op gets zombies off of their other fields.

    Does he though? I've seen a bunch of reanimator decks that can get him out turn 4 or 5.

    Are those decks good tho?

  • HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I would argue that Agent comes out too late, Rubble Reading and Tectonic Rift are unplayable, so it only leaves Trophy.

    I imagine the trophy sequence goes: Trophy -> Op grabs a basic -> Op gets zombies off of their other fields.

    Does he though? I've seen a bunch of reanimator decks that can get him out turn 4 or 5.

    Are those decks good tho?

    I've lost to a lot of them.

    While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    seems to be what this deck is trying to do

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 9
    I think I am gonna have to give up on esper stax.

    It’s a very fun deck in a vacuum but having to engineer it specifically to fight against FotD is the most frustrating thing.

    I think I might just try and cook up a mill deck that is dedicated to fucking with FotD.

    EDIT: Ok this is my hate dek:
    4 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228
    4 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
    4 Unmoored Ego (GRN) 212
    5 Swamp (ANA) 63
    3 Hydroid Krasis (RNA) 183
    4 Thief of Sanity (GRN) 205
    1 Lochmere Serpent (ELD) 195
    4 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61
    1 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54
    2 Agent of Treachery (M20) 43
    3 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage (WAR) 83
    4 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
    4 Vantress Gargoyle (ELD) 71
    4 Breeding Pool (RNA) 246
    4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
    1 Dismal Backwater (M20) 245
    6 Island (ANA) 62

    3 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
    1 Midnight Clock (ELD) 54
    1 Gadwick, the Wizened (ELD) 48
    2 Mass Manipulation (RNA) 42
    1 Duress (M20) 97
    1 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 The Elderspell (WAR) 89
    1 Wishclaw Talisman (ELD) 110
    1 Leyline of the Void (M20) 107
    2 Veil of Summer (M20) 198

    Thoughts?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 9
    So far this deck works out pretty well...unless the enemy gets his FOTD on turn one or two, and that has happened way too often tonight

    EDIT: Though I think I will just swap the krasis for ding dang counterspells

    EDIT2: Ok, new deklist
    3 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228
    1 Mass Manipulation (RNA) 42
    3 Unmoored Ego (GRN) 212
    8 Swamp (ANA) 63
    3 Thought Collapse (RNA) 57
    4 Thief of Sanity (GRN) 205
    3 Chemister's Insight (GRN) 32
    3 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61
    1 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54
    2 Agent of Treachery (M20) 43
    3 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage (WAR) 83
    4 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
    4 Vantress Gargoyle (ELD) 71
    1 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242
    4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
    4 Dismal Backwater (M20) 245
    7 Island (ANA) 62

    3 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
    1 Midnight Clock (ELD) 54
    2 Mass Manipulation (RNA) 42
    3 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58
    1 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 The Elderspell (WAR) 89
    1 Wishclaw Talisman (ELD) 110
    2 Thought Erasure (GRN) 206

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  • BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    edited October 9
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    So here's my question, since so far about 90% of the decks today have been field of the dead, how do you design a deck that is purely made to fuck with them.

    Land destruction?
    admanb wrote: »
    So here's my question, since so far about 90% of the decks today have been field of the dead, how do you design a deck that is purely made to fuck with them.

    U/B with Unmoored Ego and Ashiok in main? Wishclaw to find them.

    You could add green for Assassin's Trophy. No access to land destruction to kill the Fields is a big issue right now.

    As someone who played a Jund Land Destruction deck all of last Standard, I'll say that it's basically impossible now. Field of Ruin + Crucible of Worlds was big game against Field of the Dead but both are gone now.

    Currently we've got Assassin's Trophy, Casualties of War, Thought Erasure (kind of, it hits important cards) and like Admanb said, Unmoored Ego and Ashiok. But that puts you into three colors and is also slow as hell.

    I'll try and put together a list later. But, I think the big problem will be that it might have a slight advantage against Field and poor match-ups versus everything else.

    Not that a 6-mana spell in yet another color helps, but there's also Bedeck//Bedazzle.

    Yeah, I ran that in my Jund list as early removal and late-game land destruction. Didn't add it to the list because it seems we're being pushed out of Red and into Blue. And Casualties is already 6 mana...

    *Edit*
    Here's a big, long list of Sultai cards that I think could make a maybe reasonable deck. Having looked through the cards in standard I think it'd end up as a combination of land destruction, hand disruption, and mill.
    Creatures
    Arboreal Grazer G [C]
    Gilded Goose G [R]
    Merfolk Secretkeeper B [C]
    Augur of Bolas 1U
    Burglar Rat 1B [C]
    Fae of Wishes 1U [R]
    Hydroid Krasis XGB [M]
    Incubation Druid 1G [R]
    Leafkin Druid 1G [C]
    Paradise Druid 1G
    Wall of Lost Thoughts 1U
    Yarok's Fenlurker BB
    Rosethorn Acolyte 2G [C]
    Thief of Sanity 1UB [R]
    Frilled Mystic GGUU
    God-Eternal Kefnet 2UU [M]
    Cavalier of Gales 2UUU [M]
    Cavalier of Thorns 2GGG [M]
    Doom Whisperer 3BB [M]
    Massacre Girl 3BB [R]
    Dream Eater 4UU [M]
    Gargos, Vicious Watcher 3GGG [R]
    Agent of Treachery 5UU [R]
    Beanstalk Giant 6G
    Meteor Golem 7
    Scholar of the Ages 5UU

    Instants
    Opt U [C]
    Veil of Summer G
    Anticipate 1U [C]
    Assassin's Trophy BG [R]
    Drown in the Loch UB
    Growth Spiral GU [C]
    Mission Briefing UU [R]
    Negate 1B [C]
    Once Upon a Time 1G [R]
    Quench 1U [C]
    Tales End 1B [R]
    Convolute 2U [C]
    Didn't Say Please 1UU [C]
    Sinister Sabotage 1UU
    Thought Collapse 1UU [C]
    Deathsprout 1BBG
    Devious Cover-Up 2UU [C]
    Price of Fame 3B

    Sorceries
    Duress B [C]
    Legion's End 1B [R]
    Shimmer of Possibility 1U [C]
    Thought Erasure UB
    Cry of the Carnarium 1BB
    Unmoored Ego 1UB [R]
    Witch's Vengeance 1BB [R]
    Circuitous Route 3G
    Ritual of Soot 2BB [R]
    Enter the God-Eternals 2UUB [R]
    Casualties of War 2BBGG [R]
    Command the Dreadhorde 4BB [R]
    Flood of Tears 4UU [R]
    Discovery // Dispersal 1{U/B}//3UB
    Find // Finality {B/G}{B/G}//4BG [R]

    Planeswalkers
    Ashiok, Dream Render 1{U/B}{U/B}
    Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage 2B
    Narset, Parter of Veils 1UU
    Jace, Wielder of Mysteries 1UUU [R]
    Tamiyo, Collector of Tales 2GU [R]
    Garruk, Cursed Huntsman 4BG [M]
    Liliana, Dreadhorde General 4BB [M]

    Artifacts
    Bag of Holding 1 [R]
    Wishclas Talisman 1B [R]

    Enchantments
    Drowned Secrets 1U [R]
    Urban Utopia 1G [C]
    Disinformation Campaign 1UB
    Gift of Paradise 2G [C]
    Revenge of Ravens 3B

    Lands
    Blast Zone [R]
    Blood Crypt [R]
    Breeding Pool [R]
    Castle Locthwain [R]
    Castle Vanress [R]
    Evolving Wilds [C]
    Fabled Passage [R]
    Gingerbread Cabin [C]
    Mystic Sanctuary [C]
    Overgrown Tomb [R]
    Stomping Ground [R]
    Temple of Malady [R]
    Temple of Mystery [R]
    Watery Grave [R]
    So far this deck works out pretty well...unless the enemy gets his FOTD on turn one or two, and that has happened way too often tonight

    EDIT: Though I think I will just swap the krasis for ding dang counterspells

    EDIT2: Ok, new deklist
    3 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228
    1 Mass Manipulation (RNA) 42
    3 Unmoored Ego (GRN) 212
    8 Swamp (ANA) 63
    3 Thought Collapse (RNA) 57
    4 Thief of Sanity (GRN) 205
    3 Chemister's Insight (GRN) 32
    3 Narset, Parter of Veils (WAR) 61
    1 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54
    2 Agent of Treachery (M20) 43
    3 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage (WAR) 83
    4 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
    4 Vantress Gargoyle (ELD) 71
    1 Castle Vantress (ELD) 242
    4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
    4 Dismal Backwater (M20) 245
    7 Island (ANA) 62

    3 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
    1 Midnight Clock (ELD) 54
    2 Mass Manipulation (RNA) 42
    3 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58
    1 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 The Elderspell (WAR) 89
    1 Wishclaw Talisman (ELD) 110
    2 Thought Erasure (GRN) 206

    Here's the list I've come up with (no sideboard yet) to maybe deal with FotD. Turns out it's in a similar vein as yours so might be worth a look. I, unfortunately, don't have the wildcards to make it.
    Creatures (8)
    x4 Gilded Goose G {R}
    x4 Thief of Sanity 1UB {R}

    Instants (7)
    x4 Assassin's Trophy BG {R}
    x3 Didn't Say Please 1UU {C}

    Sorceries (14)
    x4 Legion's End 1B {R}
    x4 Thought Erasure UB {U}
    x4 Unmoored Ego 1UB {R}
    x2 Casualties of War 2BBGG {R}

    Enchantments (2)
    x2 Leyline of Anticipation 2UU {R}

    Planeswalkers (5)
    x3 Ashiok, Dream Render 1{U/B}{U/B} {U}
    x2 Liliana, Dreadhorde General 4BB {M}

    Lands (24)
    x4 Breeding Pool {R}
    x1 Castle Vantress {R}
    x1 Forest
    x1 Island
    x4 Overgrown Tomb {R}
    x1 Swamp
    x4 Temple of Malady {R}
    x4 Temple of Mystery {R}
    x4 Watery Grave {R}

    Runner-Up Cards
    Arboreal Grazer
    Murderous Rider
    God-Eternal Kefnet
    Agent of Treachery
    Devious Cover-Up
    Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
    Tamiyo, Collector of Tales

    The goal is to get a Thief, Unmoored Ego, or Ashiok out on turn 2 if possible thanks to goose. It's also why Arboreal Grazer is a runner-up for being in the main deck.
    Legion's End hit the zombie tokens and Hydroid Krasis. Assassin's Trophy, Didn't Say Please, Casualties of War and Thought Erasure are for Kenrith, Agent of Treachery, Beanstalk Giant and such. Assasin's Trophy and Casualties of War are also for hitting FotD when it's already down. Liliana is also pseudo land destruction and a win condition.
    Thought Erasure and Didn't Say Please are for hitting ramp or other threats before they come down.
    I think that Leyline of Anticipation is an interesting include. It'll let you play more like Simic Flash. End of Turn Thief of Sanity or Legion's End as a surprise, draw step Thought Erasure, and other tricks like that.
    I could see cutting a card for another Swamp. I can see running any of the runner-up cards I listed. I can see considering any of the cards I pulled for that huge list of Sultai cards.

    A potential change is:
    -2 Leyline of Anticipation
    +2 Tamiyo, Collector of Tales (More Unmoored Egos'

    Another potential change:
    -2 Leyline of Anticipation
    -1 Legion's End
    -2 Temple of Malady
    -2 Temple of Mystery
    +3 Arboreal Grazer
    +2 Forest (Need more untapped sources if you're running more Green one drops)
    +1 Swamp
    +1 Island

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The thing is I only wanna draw unmoored ego once really, and I wanna draw it early so :\

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    foliooffanciesp.jpg
    am I crazy or is this card crazy good for Mill?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    In limited? Yes. In constructed? Less so.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    In limited? Yes. In constructed? Less so.

    well mill in constructed is less good for a whole bunch of reasons

    fuck gendered marketing
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Elldren wrote: »
    In limited? Yes. In constructed? Less so.

    well mill in constructed is less good for a whole bunch of reasons

    Oh believe me I know

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
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  • EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    I kinda want there to be a not completely terrible infinite mana combo so i can do it, cast folio, draw my deck, play 2nd folio that i drew, and then mill whatever is left of opponents deck, and say go. probably some combo with faeburrow elder and either guantlet of light or high alert. At least with high alert you could theoretically cast dance of the manse for 3 and get back high alert, theater of horrors, and a folio or something then make infinite r/g/b mana and either kill them with theater or roll with the folio. there is so much creature hate in the format though you would probably need to keep up countermagic and run crystal slipper to let the elder even tap for mana.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    I kinda want there to be a not completely terrible infinite mana combo so i can do it, cast folio, draw my deck, play 2nd folio that i drew, and then mill whatever is left of opponents deck, and say go. probably some combo with faeburrow elder and either guantlet of light or high alert. At least with high alert you could theoretically cast dance of the manse for 3 and get back high alert, theater of horrors, and a folio or something then make infinite r/g/b mana and either kill them with theater or roll with the folio. there is so much creature hate in the format though you would probably need to keep up countermagic and run crystal slipper to let the elder even tap for mana.

    why play a second folio when you can just untap your first one?

    fuck gendered marketing
  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    If you haven't seen yet wotc moved the next ban announcement up from November to October 21 the Monday after the next protour.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    If you haven't seen yet wotc moved the next ban announcement up from November to October 21 the Monday after the next protour.

    golos we hardly knew ye

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  • milskimilski UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ UNTZ Registered User regular
    edited October 10
    I seriously doubt they'd ban Golos over Field of the Dead.

    E: They might do it because they sometimes prefer to ban enablers rather than engines, but Golos himself is not a particularly threatening card and Cavalier of Thorns is such a simple swap in I doubt it significantly powers the deck down.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit I'm a good person yes it's trueRegistered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    I seriously doubt they'd ban Golos over Field of the Dead.

    E: They might do it because they sometimes prefer to ban enablers rather than engines, but Golos himself is not a particularly threatening card and Cavalier of Thorns is such a simple swap in I doubt it significantly powers the deck down.

    I was thinking they do it for what he does in modern

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    I'm so old, I remember when Field of the Dead was dead after Scapeshift rotated.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 10
    Ok, so let me set the stage for ya'll about this crazy match I just played.


    I'm at 5 life after my opponent's combat step. He's at 3.

    My side of the board is Ayara and an order of midnight. I have a gutterbones in my hand and one in my GY. I have a knight of the ebon legion in my hand as well. And my opponent knows all this.

    His side of the board is Golos and seven zombies (2 fields of the dead out). And enough mana to cast Agent of Treachery and Circuitous route.

    I wait for him to realize that I am dead on board and he just needs to take my Ayara and then crack his circuitous route for the win.

    He pauses, takes careful consideration of the battlefield, then casts circuitous route and then casts agent of treachery on my.......order of midnight.

    My turn I play my 3 creatures and say GG. He then forfeited the next game.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Yeah, people misplaying is very handy sometimes. Like so:

    Another guy somehow mis-targeted Artful Takedown and tapped his own guy.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Watching a RDW guy crash into revenge of ravens without reading the card is such a fuckin delight.

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  • 21stCentury21stCentury A lovely pixel artist and gamecrafter [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Watching a RDW guy crash into revenge of ravens without reading the card is such a fuckin delight.

    in the words of Leeroy Jenkins, "at least i got chicken".

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 10
    I am starting to like this deck I brewed more. It has a lot of bad matchups and you have to be aggressive in mulligening to get an early boardstate, but you can absolutely win with it:

    4 Revenge of Ravens (ELD) 104
    2 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84
    2 Rankle, Master of Pranks (ELD) 101
    3 Foulmire Knight (ELD) 90
    4 Gutterbones (RNA) 76
    2 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
    3 Legion's End (M20) 106
    3 Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage (WAR) 83
    4 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
    4 Knight of the Ebon Legion (M20) 105
    4 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
    20 Swamp (WAR) 257
    3 Order of Midnight (ELD) 99
    2 Ayara, First of Locthwain (ELD) 75

    SIDEBOARD
    1 Cry of the Carnarium (RNA) 70
    1 Rankle, Master of Pranks (ELD) 101
    1 Duress (M20) 97
    1 Legion's End (M20) 106
    2 The Elderspell (WAR) 89
    2 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84
    1 Duress (M19) 94
    1 Duress (XLN) 105
    2 Disfigure (M20) 95
    3 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228

    The kinda idea is to go wide until you get a stalled boardstate with revenge of the ravens and then win via your multiple noncombat options or a gigantic ass Ebon Legion knight.

    My favorite wins with this so far was when the RDW guy swung with 12 creatures at me and ended up doing more damage to himself than to me, or when I faced off against an obnoxious life-gain deck and eventually won out because turns out Ebon Legion is really, really good in the lategame for suddenly doing 10 damage on an empty board.

    EDIT: I haven't really figured out the sideboard too well, I'm mainly taking this in Bo1 for now.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Gotta give Day9 credit, most of his review was a meme but he did say he seriously thought people were overvaluing Once Upon a Time.

    And so far that seems pretty accurate? Like it's good in certain decks but doesn't seem to be format defining or broken?

    Someone here thought it would even get banned in modern! As far as I can tell it didn't even make a showing in modern at SCG did it?

    Morale of the story: card reviews are always all over the place until people start actually playing with them

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