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The 2020 Democratic Primary

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    She would not say she'd raise taxes on the middle class though. Dodged it twice.

    True, but she did say the total costs would go down (yes, taxes will be higher).

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    She would not say she'd raise taxes on the middle class though. Dodged it twice.

    True, but she did say the total costs would go down (yes, taxes will be higher).

    Yeah I'm glad she didn't submit the sound bite. It's a dumb question and a dumb framing.

    Psn:wazukki
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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited July 2019
    wazilla wrote: »
    She would not say she'd raise taxes on the middle class though. Dodged it twice.

    Because when you say "I will raise taxes, but your payments for insurance going down will more than make up for it" no one will never ever ever fucking ever hear past the word taxes

    Veevee on
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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    guys i don't think jake tapper likes medicare for all

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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    Ah yes my choice of healthcare.. whatever my employer provides.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Tumin wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Hooo boy Delaney is making a mistake going after Sanders with some stupid nonsensical shit. "Illegal" healthcare? What are you talking about you lunatic?

    Maybe a reference to California's healthcare expansion to undocumented minors, probably? It sounds like an echo chamber talking point.
    No he was saying Medicare For All would make existing healthcare plans "illegal," which is... very Republican-Alarmist sounding.

    That's a accurate for some of the MFA proposals, if phrased in the silliest way

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    MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    Bullock sounds like he's about twenty seconds from collapsing on stage due to complications from Boneitis

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    guys i don't think jake tapper likes medicare for all

    I don't think that's necessarily true since he just let Warren and Sanders murder Delaney on national TV.

    I think Tapper wants soundbites!

    Psn:wazukki
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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    O'Rourke is right that only building on the ACA isn't good enough to solve the problem, even with a public option. It doesn't really tackle the for-profit nature of healthcare in America.

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    No one would love their employer sponsored insurance if they were presented an honest accounting of the cost and coverage

    That being said, I am down with a public option as incremental reform (though I mostly hate the candidates leading with that on tonight’s stage)

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    guys i don't think jake tapper likes medicare for all

    Jake Tapper is a Republican who is mad that Donald Trump is so uncouth.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    klobuchar: i'm a fighter. i just slugged one of my staffers backstage ten minutes ago

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    guys i don't think jake tapper likes medicare for all

    I don't think that's necessarily true since he just let Warren and Sanders murder Delaney on national TV.

    I think Tapper wants soundbites!

    Tapper is trying to show Chuck Todd how to to moderate

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    MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    FK yes Sanders on how insured people go broke, and calling out Jake

    And the insurance industry

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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    not a great look to stop Bernie there tap tap

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    guys i don't think jake tapper likes medicare for all

    Jake Tapper is a Republican who is mad that Donald Trump is so uncouth.

    Bernie and I are strangely on the same page at the moment. Attacking Tapper for using a right wing frame in his question.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Warren/Sanders ticket please.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Phasen wrote: »
    not a great look to stop Bernie there tap tap
    Holy fuck he went after their ad partners and Tapper took the bait, what a fucking failure that guy is.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Warren/Sanders ticket please.

    Warren/Castro has a better electoral appeal.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Bernie shouting "IT'S NOT A BUSINESS" at Delaney is fantastic

    Psn:wazukki
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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Warren/Sanders ticket please.

    I'd also be ok with a Sanders/Warren ticket.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Warren/Sanders ticket please.

    Warren/Castro has a better electoral appeal.

    Probably, but I'd be happy with Warren and Sanders just schooling these fools.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    Warren/Sanders ticket please.
    This is the ideal situation.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Phasen wrote: »
    I still cant wrap my mind around politicians saying that people love their private insurance.

    A lot of people do. As far as I know from polling people who have good private insurance likes it a lot.

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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    This is not enough time to answer anything.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    For full context

    Delaney: I'm the only one on stage with experience in the Health Care Business

    Bernie, off camera, shouting: "IT'S NOT A BUSINESS"

    Psn:wazukki
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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Marianne, you blew your 15 seconds.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Phasen wrote: »
    I still cant wrap my mind around politicians saying that people love their private insurance.

    A lot of people do. As far as I know from polling people who have good private insurance likes it a lot.

    The middle and lower class do not make a decision on private insurance. Their employers do.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    Pete is correct that no matter what policy they put forward they will be called radical socialists so... let's be radical socialists?

    Psn:wazukki
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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Williamson just wasted her time saying nothing at all. I was hoping for it to at least produce something amazing and meme-worthy.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    Sanders going after CNN itself for running pharmaceutical company ads is bold

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Buttigieg correctly points out the GOP will call us socialists regardless.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    Okay Buttigieg gets credit for that line: paraphrasing it he said that if we propose a progressive idea, Republicans will call us crazy socialists. If we propose a conservative idea, they will call us crazy socialists. So let’s do what we think is right.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Phasen wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Phasen wrote: »
    I still cant wrap my mind around politicians saying that people love their private insurance.

    A lot of people do. As far as I know from polling people who have good private insurance likes it a lot.

    The middle and lower class do not make a decision on private insurance. Their employers do.

    That doesn't change anything I said though.

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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    Bernie is on it tonight.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I think I am behind you guys, because "IT'S NOT A BUSINESS" just happened.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    "I wrote the damned bill!" - Bernie, dunking on these also-rans.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    PhasenPhasen Hell WorldRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Phasen wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Phasen wrote: »
    I still cant wrap my mind around politicians saying that people love their private insurance.

    A lot of people do. As far as I know from polling people who have good private insurance likes it a lot.

    The middle and lower class do not make a decision on private insurance. Their employers do.

    That doesn't change anything I said though.

    You wanna argue that people like their private healthcare due to polling. People like that they have healthcare. You dont know what it's like in America in regards to healthcare.

    psn: PhasenWeeple
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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Phasen wrote: »
    Bernie is on it tonight.
    Sanders: The plan will include dental care, hearing aids, and eyeglasses.
    Ryan: You don’t know that, you don't know that, Bernie.
    Sanders: I do know that, I wrote the damn bill.
    🔥🔥🔥

    wandering on
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    Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    Guys, please include the statements you're reacting to along with your reaction. Not everyone can watch the debate right now.

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