One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes, it’s required by Florida. In fact if a certain amount of damage is incurred (I forget the percent offhand) flood mitigation is required too as part of rebuild/repair in addition to being brought up to code.
The biggest concern really is the requirement varies somewhat depending on where in Florida you. For instance, Miami has codes that account for Cat 4,5 hurricanes. Other places like the panhandle have requirements to withstand at least Cat 3 (120 mph), which was fine up until 2018 as there had never been anything higher than Cat 3 to hit here on record. Obviously Michael shattered that notion so I do expect some updates to code in the next few years.
Turns out, you need oxygen to live and building underground doesn't stop the wildfire overhead from killing you by lack of oxygen. Nor does it deal with the problems of groundwater (both coming in and going out)
One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes. In certain counties not rebuilding adds a hefty tax to your bill also. Selling without updates to code makes it impossible to be insured here, so most sellers in the 90s had to update anyway.
Turns out, you need oxygen to live and building underground doesn't stop the wildfire overhead from killing you by lack of oxygen. Nor does it deal with the problems of groundwater (both coming in and going out)
One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes. In certain counties not rebuilding adds a hefty tax to your bill also. Selling without updates to code makes it impossible to be insured here, so most sellers in the 90s had to update anyway.
Thanks for the information everyone. I assumed that was the case but I also know that rich people not wanting to pay to update their shit so they bribe local governments is also a thing.
One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes, it’s required by Florida. In fact if a certain amount of damage is incurred (I forget the percent offhand) flood mitigation is required too as part of rebuild/repair in addition to being brought up to code.
The biggest concern really is the requirement varies somewhat depending on where in Florida you. For instance, Miami has codes that account for Cat 4,5 hurricanes. Other places like the panhandle have requirements to withstand at least Cat 3 (120 mph), which was fine up until 2018 as there had never been anything higher than Cat 3 to hit here on record. Obviously Michael shattered that notion so I do expect some updates to code in the next few years.
Yeah, my hometown was decimated by Andrew, and immediately following a lot of homes had to just knock down what was left, and then have to bring ground level up to something like 6 feet above where it was and then put the house on top of that.
Turns out, you need oxygen to live and building underground doesn't stop the wildfire overhead from killing you by lack of oxygen. Nor does it deal with the problems of groundwater (both coming in and going out)
I'd rather have an emergency O2 supply in my cave, and I'm not sure the forests will be around much longer. I can't imagine scrub produces as much gas when burned.
Asphyxiation is rather moving the goalposts though, because even if you have to evacuate and then pump CO from your house, your house will still be there after the fire.
But yeah, flooding presents a bigger issue to that than fire does
One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes, it’s required by Florida. In fact if a certain amount of damage is incurred (I forget the percent offhand) flood mitigation is required too as part of rebuild/repair in addition to being brought up to code.
The biggest concern really is the requirement varies somewhat depending on where in Florida you. For instance, Miami has codes that account for Cat 4,5 hurricanes. Other places like the panhandle have requirements to withstand at least Cat 3 (120 mph), which was fine up until 2018 as there had never been anything higher than Cat 3 to hit here on record. Obviously Michael shattered that notion so I do expect some updates to code in the next few years.
Yeah, my hometown was decimated by Andrew, and immediately following a lot of homes had to just knock down what was left, and then have to bring ground level up to something like 6 feet above where it was and then put the house on top of that.
Houston had this after Harvey, homes along some of the flooded areas had to be built up if they were repaired, so you'll see old ranch homes next to a ranch home that's sitting on top of a false basement.
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Turns out, you need oxygen to live and building underground doesn't stop the wildfire overhead from killing you by lack of oxygen. Nor does it deal with the problems of groundwater (both coming in and going out)
I'd rather have an emergency O2 supply in my cave, and I'm not sure the forests will be around much longer. I can't imagine scrub produces as much gas when burned.
Asphyxiation is rather moving the goalposts though, because even if you have to evacuate and then pump CO from your house, your house will still be there after the fire.
But yeah, flooding presents a bigger issue to that than fire does
This is silly for two reasons. First, wildfires are part of a healthy woodland. Forests aren't going anywhere by fires, they just might not be as tall for a bit (though in many cases, plenty of taller pines survive the fires and needle after a year or so). Unless we pave over them, they grow back quickly and more healthy than ever after a fire as the ash creates extremely fertile ground for most trees in those areas. Second, brush burns hot, smokes heavily, and smolders long. If you live in scrubland you don't get to ignore fire risk at all, and again, being underground really isn't a viable living option anywhere these fires are. Earthquakes are real on the west coast.
And really, the bunker idea is just plain ecologically backwards. Unless you are living well inland in the piedmont the costs to build for totally underground living outweigh the economic ability for most homeowners who aren't the megarich and building wide-ranging series of bunkers underground creates the same problems as suburban sprawl just with your major problems being heavy metal intrusion into your groundwater and poisoning the land from below, rather than from above. It would likely cause major disruptions to most groundwater systems if done in any degree of scale, causing significant heaves and sloughs, if not outright sinkholes in places not historically known for them which would likely destroy the bunker systems.
Saying bunker living is a viable option is the equivalent of the rich moving to New Zealand. Sure, you might be ok, but it isn't a viable path to sustainability. Just one for a few selfish individuals to hide from the consequences of their actions.
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The solution to nearly all of these problems is simple, well understood, extremely over-researched and proven, and is economically sound. Place firm rural boundaries, with focus on tightening them over time rather than loosening them. Build denser cities with tighter infrastructure, and invest heavily into ecological management, be it forestry, green energy, or water systems management. All of these are doable, are being done more than historically, and are gaining ground. The problem is that they aren't gaining ground fast enough to have meaningful effect with our previous damage.
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One has to wonder how much climate change is going to drive people out of rural areas; especially, ones that are prone to catching fire.
Or flooding. How frequently can an area get flooded out by hurricanes until people stop rebuilding there?
If human history is any indicator, then half past never.
At a minimum, you would think people would at least build houses suitable for the area but nope, same fucking drywall/wood houses that half-dissolve when they get wet and are completely destroyed by mold as they dry out. And that's in spite of the fact that we definitely can build houses to safely endure those conditions now, but people don't want them because they don't have the same boring-ass looking as every other suburban home in the US.
Haha ok what? After Andrew building codes radically changed. Houses may still look the sameish in Florida because plastered cinderblock and/or poured concrete is what works best here. How they are built internally is significantly different, especially in roof design.
We do build this way. We aren't building geodesic domes or some shit because there isn't a need for them and a lot of those high-minded designs are just impractical in other ways.
Prime example, we took the eyewall of Hurricane Michael in 2018. Our house was built to Florida code in 2013. The only reason we had to have any repairs at all is because two trees straight up fell on the same spot of the roof. Even then, the rest held together through the entire force and the trees did not penetrate living space, only the attic. Wind code building for newer homes is actually very sound. It’s the storm surge and rain aspect that is harder to fight against, things like building up the land and not building in a flood zone are the only real consistent ways to avoid that.
That's really good to hear but I have a question. When older homes are damaged are they required to rebuild to the new code?
Yes, it’s required by Florida. In fact if a certain amount of damage is incurred (I forget the percent offhand) flood mitigation is required too as part of rebuild/repair in addition to being brought up to code.
The biggest concern really is the requirement varies somewhat depending on where in Florida you. For instance, Miami has codes that account for Cat 4,5 hurricanes. Other places like the panhandle have requirements to withstand at least Cat 3 (120 mph), which was fine up until 2018 as there had never been anything higher than Cat 3 to hit here on record. Obviously Michael shattered that notion so I do expect some updates to code in the next few years.
Yeah, my hometown was decimated by Andrew, and immediately following a lot of homes had to just knock down what was left, and then have to bring ground level up to something like 6 feet above where it was and then put the house on top of that.
Fun fact! I lived in Cutler Ridge in 1992. I’ve been hit by 2 of the 4 hurricanes on record to hit the US at Cat 5, and eaten the eyewall both times. My wife told me if a third finds me she’s divorcing me. I don’t blame her.
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Hurricane Delta has rapidly intensified. After brushing the Yucatan peninsula Delta is predicted for a weekend landfall in Louisiana, possibly as a major hurricane, and continuing into Mississippi.
If you're within the cone, take note and start preparations now.
The solution to nearly all of these problems is simple, well understood, extremely over-researched and proven, and is economically sound. Place firm rural boundaries, with focus on tightening them over time rather than loosening them. Build denser cities with tighter infrastructure, and invest heavily into ecological management, be it forestry, green energy, or water systems management. All of these are doable, are being done more than historically, and are gaining ground. The problem is that they aren't gaining ground fast enough to have meaningful effect with our previous damage.
A lot of the things that would combat global warming are the same things that also help mitigate the impact of global warming. So of course we don't do them (at least not at the rate we need to be doing them) and turn a win-win into a lose-lose.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
Winds in Delta increased by 85 mph in the 24 hours ending 11:20 a.m. EDT Tuesday. That is more than double the criteria for the rapid intensification of a tropical cyclone, which is a wind speed increase of at least 35 mph in 24 hours or less.
I know people in Cozumel.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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Winds in Delta increased by 85 mph in the 24 hours ending 11:20 a.m. EDT Tuesday. That is more than double the criteria for the rapid intensification of a tropical cyclone, which is a wind speed increase of at least 35 mph in 24 hours or less.
I know people in Cozumel.
Yeah this is only going to become more common, shits fucked. Rapid intensification is the new normal.
If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
My understanding is it's more of a yes, but also no. The storm will get put on the retired names list but will continue to be used in future years. So it kinda happens but not really.
Winds in Delta increased by 85 mph in the 24 hours ending 11:20 a.m. EDT Tuesday. That is more than double the criteria for the rapid intensification of a tropical cyclone, which is a wind speed increase of at least 35 mph in 24 hours or less.
I know people in Cozumel.
Yeah this is only going to become more common, shits fucked. Rapid intensification is the new normal.
Google 'hurricane Delta' and the resulting headlines range from 'expected to hit Louisiana as a hurricane' to 'strengthened to category four' with a smattering of category two and category three headlines in the mix. All of them from within the past 24 hours.
This rapid intensification will end up producing another Galviston 1900 type event.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
Might have to expand to two names from each letter in the future to delay hitting the greeks...
There's been a pattern since 1990. 1990 had 14, an all time record. The next four years averaged 7.5, then 1995 spiked again at 19, trashing the old record.
1996-2004 was a "quiet" period between spikes, but it averaged 13 storms a year, the pre-1990 record, and it's quietest year was still above the pre-1990 average.
2005 hit the Greeks for the first time at 28. 2006-2019 was another quiet period. It averaged above he 1990 record, and had nine years above the 1995 record.
2020 is now all but guaranteed to beat 2005, it's got Epsilon and Kappa to tie and 2005 got there around Thanksgiving and Christmas. October's the third busiest month for names storms and we've got the whole month ahead yet.
If the pattern holds through a fourth spike year, we'll see "normal" years breaking 20 and very few of any years over 10. We probably won't see Greek letters become the norm until after the last spoke, but it's likely to be in play without special conditions.
One change in there is that they didn't start naming subtropical storms until 2002. So comparing before and after that year should have a bit of an asterisk
That doesn't add much. Every named subtropical storm except 2004's Nicole became tropical and would have been named afterwards.
Also, not all subtropical cyclones get names, 2005 had a subtropical cyclone and an arctic cyclone that went unnamed despite both reaching hurricane strength.
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If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
Might have to expand to two names from each letter in the future to delay hitting the greeks...
There's been a pattern since 1990. 1990 had 14, an all time record. The next four years averaged 7.5, then 1995 spiked again at 19, trashing the old record.
1996-2004 was a "quiet" period between spikes, but it averaged 13 storms a year, the pre-1990 record, and it's quietest year was still above the pre-1990 average.
2005 hit the Greeks for the first time at 28. 2006-2019 was another quiet period. It averaged above he 1990 record, and had nine years above the 1995 record.
2020 is now all but guaranteed to beat 2005, it's got Epsilon and Kappa to tie and 2005 got there around Thanksgiving and Christmas. October's the third busiest month for names storms and we've got the whole month ahead yet.
If the pattern holds through a fourth spike year, we'll see "normal" years breaking 20 and very few of any years over 10. We probably won't see Greek letters become the norm until after the last spoke, but it's likely to be in play without special conditions.
Again, I wouldn’t call 2018, the year in which only the fourth hurricane on record to hit the US at Cat 5 strength occurred.
If Delta is a devastating hurricane can greek letter named hurricanes be retired?
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
Yeah, Greek letters aren't retired, but the name still gets added to the HoF list.
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Remember Hurricane Irma, a month before Maria back in 2017? You know how after further analysis the actual death toll for Maria was determined to be a lot higher than the official tally? It's the same with Irma. There had been many reports of nursing home residents who had been abandoned in buildings with no electricity or supplies, in floodwater, but few deaths officially. In actuality, after someone gave enough of a shit to look, it turns out to be over 400 deaths just from those nursing homes. All the same sort of negligence that Puerto Rico would get - Trumpers don't care to even bother counting, much less care about the deaths themselves.
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Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, corporate pr, the local church, etc have all been pushing conservatives to completely abandon observable reality for decades. This is just the end game - nothing matters because they deny it even happened
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Yes, it’s required by Florida. In fact if a certain amount of damage is incurred (I forget the percent offhand) flood mitigation is required too as part of rebuild/repair in addition to being brought up to code.
The biggest concern really is the requirement varies somewhat depending on where in Florida you. For instance, Miami has codes that account for Cat 4,5 hurricanes. Other places like the panhandle have requirements to withstand at least Cat 3 (120 mph), which was fine up until 2018 as there had never been anything higher than Cat 3 to hit here on record. Obviously Michael shattered that notion so I do expect some updates to code in the next few years.
Turns out, you need oxygen to live and building underground doesn't stop the wildfire overhead from killing you by lack of oxygen. Nor does it deal with the problems of groundwater (both coming in and going out)
Yes. In certain counties not rebuilding adds a hefty tax to your bill also. Selling without updates to code makes it impossible to be insured here, so most sellers in the 90s had to update anyway.
Thanks for the information everyone. I assumed that was the case but I also know that rich people not wanting to pay to update their shit so they bribe local governments is also a thing.
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I'd rather have an emergency O2 supply in my cave, and I'm not sure the forests will be around much longer. I can't imagine scrub produces as much gas when burned.
Asphyxiation is rather moving the goalposts though, because even if you have to evacuate and then pump CO from your house, your house will still be there after the fire.
But yeah, flooding presents a bigger issue to that than fire does
Houston had this after Harvey, homes along some of the flooded areas had to be built up if they were repaired, so you'll see old ranch homes next to a ranch home that's sitting on top of a false basement.
This is silly for two reasons. First, wildfires are part of a healthy woodland. Forests aren't going anywhere by fires, they just might not be as tall for a bit (though in many cases, plenty of taller pines survive the fires and needle after a year or so). Unless we pave over them, they grow back quickly and more healthy than ever after a fire as the ash creates extremely fertile ground for most trees in those areas. Second, brush burns hot, smokes heavily, and smolders long. If you live in scrubland you don't get to ignore fire risk at all, and again, being underground really isn't a viable living option anywhere these fires are. Earthquakes are real on the west coast.
And really, the bunker idea is just plain ecologically backwards. Unless you are living well inland in the piedmont the costs to build for totally underground living outweigh the economic ability for most homeowners who aren't the megarich and building wide-ranging series of bunkers underground creates the same problems as suburban sprawl just with your major problems being heavy metal intrusion into your groundwater and poisoning the land from below, rather than from above. It would likely cause major disruptions to most groundwater systems if done in any degree of scale, causing significant heaves and sloughs, if not outright sinkholes in places not historically known for them which would likely destroy the bunker systems.
Saying bunker living is a viable option is the equivalent of the rich moving to New Zealand. Sure, you might be ok, but it isn't a viable path to sustainability. Just one for a few selfish individuals to hide from the consequences of their actions.
Fun fact! I lived in Cutler Ridge in 1992. I’ve been hit by 2 of the 4 hurricanes on record to hit the US at Cat 5, and eaten the eyewall both times. My wife told me if a third finds me she’s divorcing me. I don’t blame her.
Hurricane Delta has rapidly intensified. After brushing the Yucatan peninsula Delta is predicted for a weekend landfall in Louisiana, possibly as a major hurricane, and continuing into Mississippi.
If you're within the cone, take note and start preparations now.
A lot of the things that would combat global warming are the same things that also help mitigate the impact of global warming. So of course we don't do them (at least not at the rate we need to be doing them) and turn a win-win into a lose-lose.
Making a hard right to avoid Texas is just a natural reaction
This question was actually answered by them. The answer is no, Greek letters won’t be retired. Whether that bites things in the ass later on when this is a more consistency occurrence and confuses stuff remains to be seen.
Relevant info:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/dennismersereau/2020/09/16/what-happens-a-hurricane-named-after-a-greek-letter-needs-to-be-retired/amp/
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Apparently it’s Cat 4 now. Fun.
Might have to expand to two names from each letter in the future to delay hitting the greeks...
A quote from weather.com
I know people in Cozumel.
Yeah this is only going to become more common, shits fucked. Rapid intensification is the new normal.
My understanding is it's more of a yes, but also no. The storm will get put on the retired names list but will continue to be used in future years. So it kinda happens but not really.
Designing Women was a long time ago.
Google 'hurricane Delta' and the resulting headlines range from 'expected to hit Louisiana as a hurricane' to 'strengthened to category four' with a smattering of category two and category three headlines in the mix. All of them from within the past 24 hours.
This rapid intensification will end up producing another Galviston 1900 type event.
There's been a pattern since 1990. 1990 had 14, an all time record. The next four years averaged 7.5, then 1995 spiked again at 19, trashing the old record.
1996-2004 was a "quiet" period between spikes, but it averaged 13 storms a year, the pre-1990 record, and it's quietest year was still above the pre-1990 average.
2005 hit the Greeks for the first time at 28. 2006-2019 was another quiet period. It averaged above he 1990 record, and had nine years above the 1995 record.
2020 is now all but guaranteed to beat 2005, it's got Epsilon and Kappa to tie and 2005 got there around Thanksgiving and Christmas. October's the third busiest month for names storms and we've got the whole month ahead yet.
If the pattern holds through a fourth spike year, we'll see "normal" years breaking 20 and very few of any years over 10. We probably won't see Greek letters become the norm until after the last spoke, but it's likely to be in play without special conditions.
Also, not all subtropical cyclones get names, 2005 had a subtropical cyclone and an arctic cyclone that went unnamed despite both reaching hurricane strength.
Again, I wouldn’t call 2018, the year in which only the fourth hurricane on record to hit the US at Cat 5 strength occurred.
TSUNAMI WARNING 1: See http://tsunami.gov for alert areas. M7.4 055mi SE Sand Point, Alaska 1255AKDT Oct 19
West Coast danger is currently being evaluated. I'm guessing minor impact, but keep an eye on warnings if you're near the beach today.
2ft tsunami in Alaska, nil problems expected elsewhere.
Tropical Storm Zeta has formed, and it looks to be taking the exact same path that Delta took three weeks ago.
Sam Lillo is a meteorologist, and TD 28 is what became Zeta.
This hurricane season has had a grudge against Bermuda and a serious grudge against Louisiana.