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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    King Kong was Peter Jackson's last good movie. I fear it will also be the last good Peter Jackson movie.

    as bad as the Hobbit trilogy is as a whole, i'm fairly certain a great editor will one day chisel it down into the single 3 hour movie it always should've been and it'll be pretty watchable

    but until then, though, yeah

    Somebody tell me when that happens, I ain't gonna watch the Hobbit films until then.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I still like the first Hobbit a little

    You can see the cracks starting to form, but watching that in theaters opening night, I came away from it mostly positive

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    At least we'll always have the Rankin & Bass Hobbit.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Yeah the first Hobbit is a bit uneven but still mostly likable.

    The second one was the angriest I've been in theaters. The third I didn't bother. Which given how fucking much I love Tolkien still kinda shocks me.

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I didn't see the third Hobbit movie either

    Which is real weird, since Beorn's participation in the Battle of Five Armies was literally the only thing I wanted out of those movies

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    I didn't see the third Hobbit movie either

    Which is real weird, since Beorn's participation in the Battle of Five Armies was literally the only thing I wanted out of those movies

    One of my buddies told me there isn't more than ten seconds of him.

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    GR_ZombieGR_Zombie Krillin It Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    I really wish Del Toro hadn't pulled out of the project, I would love to see what he would've done with it. The pale orc is all that's left of his influence I think, it's so clearly a Mignola design.

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    it still bewilders me that they changed the name of the third movie from There and Back Again to Battle of the Five Armies

    but then i remember how bad that movie is and realize it's better off

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    I didn't see the third Hobbit movie either

    Which is real weird, since Beorn's participation in the Battle of Five Armies was literally the only thing I wanted out of those movies

    One of my buddies told me there isn't more than ten seconds of him.

    yeah fuck i legit forgot he even shows up in those movies

    i think an eagle drops him into a group of orcs during the battle and that's all you see of him

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

    Are you sure? I thought it was Manu Bennett

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The original was more colourful too. I'd guess that was Del Toro's version and the Pale Orc was Jackson's.

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

    Are you sure? I thought it was Manu Bennett

    Manu Bennett was the digital actor replacement

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

    Are you sure? I thought it was Manu Bennett

    Oh shit you're right. I'm thinking of the dude who played Bolg. Though Azog was still gunna be Manu Bennett in costume.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Yeah Azog, the pale orc, was Bennett
    Conan Stevens, the first Mountain, was Bolg, which... I don't even remember which one he was

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I think a true test of a fan cut is whether somebody who hasn't seen the originals likes it. Because I can never approach a recut film from a fresh perspective, I'll always be aware of the cut parts and they'll still be affecting my understanding of the film. Someone might cut a scene and I won't miss it, because I've already seen it and I don't need to see it again. But a new person? They might be totally lost.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Yeah Azog, the pale orc, was Bennett
    Conan Stevens, the first Mountain, was Bolg, which... I don't even remember which one he was

    Legolas wrestles with him in Desolation of Smaug. He's Azog's son. And Azog actually effectively takes Bolg's role from the book.

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    Gustav wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

    Are you sure? I thought it was Manu Bennett

    Oh shit you're right. I'm thinking of the dude who played Bolg. Though Azog was still gunna be Manu Bennett in costume.

    everything involving Azog is weird and indicative of last second changes

    the original Mountain actor was going to be "the pale orc" but the entire performance was digitally replaced in post and the practical orc was supposed to show up in the second movie as Bolg, but then THAT got tossed out as well

    the entire production was really a huge mess

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    It's all such a bummer. Because what a fucking perfect cast. Martin Freeman as Bilbo is perfect.

    Though Martin Freeman as Arthur Dent was also perfect..

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    Diablo FettDiablo Fett Registered User regular
    i'm actually fairly certain the battle of Azanulbizar scene was originally shot with the actor in the practical orc makeup (hence the numerous photos of him on set) and they just painted over it with Bennett's performance later on like they did with Sauron at the end of Return of the King

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Oh hey. I drew a godzilla a few years back. I think I might try and draw a Shin Godzilla soon. But here's my oldzilla

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    i seem to remember when I first signed up for PA one of my old avatars was Godzilla as he appeared on a Czech or Polish movie poster. It was really cool and weird. I should bring the guy back! Nobody talks about Voltron anymore.

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Gustav wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Gustav wrote: »
    Azog the Pale Orc was actually a last minute digital replacement of a costumed actor. Specifically the actor who played the Mountain in the first season of Game of Thrones. Even more awful, the actor left game of thrones to play Azog.

    Are you sure? I thought it was Manu Bennett

    Oh shit you're right. I'm thinking of the dude who played Bolg. Though Azog was still gunna be Manu Bennett in costume.

    everything involving Azog is weird and indicative of last second changes

    the original Mountain actor was going to be "the pale orc" but the entire performance was digitally replaced in post and the practical orc was supposed to show up in the second movie as Bolg, but then THAT got tossed out as well

    the entire production was really a huge mess

    I'm not surprised to be honest. Jackson wasn't originally going to do it, then jumped in because the other guy bowed out, then dealt with the studio pressuring him into making 3 movies out of what he'd been given in a really short span of time. I don't think anyone could have made great movies in those circumstances. Maybe if they'd given the same amount of time to make one real good Hobbit movie it'd be amazing, but they wanted a new Lord of the Rings and they wanted it fast.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Why are we talking about LotR.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    I like the Hobbit movies.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why are we talking about LotR.

    The Balrog is a kaiju, right

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why are we talking about LotR.

    The Balrog is a kaiju, right
    It is at best a demi-kaiju

    that fucker is tiny compared to even Godzilla Jr.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why are we talking about LotR.

    The Balrog is a kaiju, right
    It is at best a demi-kaiju

    that fucker is tiny compared to even Godzilla Jr.

    The kids can call him Go-ju.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why are we talking about LotR.

    The Balrog is a kaiju, right
    It is at best a demi-kaiju

    that fucker is tiny compared to even Godzilla Jr.

    i want to say that the term for this is Kaijin?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Why are we talking about LotR.

    The Balrog is a kaiju, right
    It is at best a demi-kaiju

    that fucker is tiny compared to even Godzilla Jr.

    i want to say that the term for this is Kaijin?
    I honestly have no idea so I'm gonna say you are right

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    i think kaijin is meant to refer to humanoid style monsters in sentai in stuff but it might be a catch-all term for "not kaiju"

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    NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    i think kaijin is meant to refer to humanoid style monsters in sentai in stuff but it might be a catch-all term for "not kaiju"

    So I googled Kaijin and got this

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    that is another definition for kaijin, yeah!

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    NorgothNorgoth cardiffRegistered User regular
    that is another definition for kaijin, yeah!

    Well yeah, but I thought it was cool. There's almost definatly a Kaijin based on the Kaijin right?

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Is teenwolf a giajin kaijin?

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    chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    turtleant wrote: »
    Is teenwolf a giajin kaijin?

    When he's in a bad mood, he's a ragin' gaijin kaijin.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Any thoughts on the upcoming Kong movie? It's weird seeing a solo Kong film where he's Godzilla sized. No way this could be a remake.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    It's part of the Legendary Godzilla universe, is a 70s period piece and stars Tom Hiddleston, John Goodman, Brie Larson and Sam Jackson

    so I am very excited

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I think I'm gonna watch a Godzilla flick today

    My options:

    Godzilla (2014)
    Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 2
    Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla
    Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
    Godzilla and Mothra: The Battle for Earth
    Godzilla vs. Destroyah
    Godzilla vs. Megaguirus

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Destroyah

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